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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / May 2004Updated System
Ok with the help of two members I have come up with a new kind of sub and amp for my car system. And to clarify, as of right now, I'm not replacing any of my cars current midrange speakers, nor adding tweaters...thats a job for another day. This is just a head unit, amp, and sub job: Head Unit: Pioneer DEH-P6600 In-Dash CD Player 189.60 http://www.digitalfotoclub.com/sc/main_item.asp?id=964591968&rf=dt&dfdate=05_25_2004 Amp: Sony XM-D500X 250 X 1 mono subwoofer amp http://www.crutchfield.com/S-pvhmYkz536v/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?s=0&c=3&g=130&I=15 8XMD500X&o=p&a=0&cc=01&avf=N&search= Subs(2): Kicker CompVR CVR12-4 12" dual 4-ohm voice coil compononent subwoofer http://www.crutchfield.com/S-avDBIrHWuWQ/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=2063C12VR4&id=mo rephotos&a=&s=0&cc=01&g=67700#morephotos Any problems you guys see now? Is the amp overkill or underkill? If you guys think I can get the same performance with a less expensive amp please tell me...thats where most of the money is going. Thanks to those who helped me before and those who help me now. - Matt - PS: is there a way to wire those subs so that i get an overall 2 ohm load? >Ok with the help of two members I have come up with a new kind of sub and >amp for my car system. And to clarify, as of right now, I'm not replacing [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >PS: is there a way to wire those subs so that i get an overall 2 ohm load? Well, "overkill" or "underkill" is relative to what you plan to do with the midranges and tweeters later. I can tell you that if you drive the sub amp to maximum volume right now, it will probably overwhelm the rest of your speakers. That's no big deal - you don't have to use the full output of the sub amp right now. As for the impedance question. No, there's no way to wire those two subs together that will give an overall 2-ohm load. Scott Gardner Do you beleive I can get good bass with that amp on a 4 ohm load? Or should I look for a different amp? > >Ok with the help of two members I have come up with a new kind of sub and > >amp for my car system. And to clarify, as of right now, I'm not replacing [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Scott Gardner It's all about what you want, what kind of car it's going into, what you listen to, etcetera etcetera. My wife's car has 110W going into a single 12" sub, and that's more than enough to get "silly with the bass". So for her car, I'd say that 250W and two 12" subs would be more than plenty for "good bass". I can't tell you if 250W and a pair of twelves will be enough for **you**. Only you can answer that. The best way to decide would be to listen to several different systems with different power levels and decide what's enough for you. Scott Gardner >Do you beleive I can get good bass with that amp on a 4 ohm load? Or should >I look for a different amp? [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >> >> Scott Gardner > As for the impedance question. No, there's no way to wire those two > subs together that will give an overall 2-ohm load. In addition, you probably don't want that amp running a 2 ohm load... > Any problems you guys see now? Is the amp overkill or underkill? If you > guys think I can get the same performance with a less expensive amp please > tell me...thats where most of the money is going. Thanks to those who > helped me before and those who help me now. If you're after accurate music reproduction, you're going about things all wrong. If, on the other hand, you're after a bass-mobile, you're on the right track. MZ, I have to agree with you again! Judging by what a great number of people do with their stereos, in the car and at home, it is clear they have no idea what accurate music reproduction is. Do yourselves a favour and just go down to a recording studio and ask them for a tour and listen to their system in the mixing room. That will clue you into what accurate sound reproduction is. Thump, thump, thump and no recognizeable mids or highs is simply a dead giveaway that you don't understand anything about music or sound reproduction. Amplitudes above 85 to 90 dB for sustained periods are DAMAGING to you hearing. DON'T do it! No pro engineer or producer will subject themselves to it because they know it is a direct attack on the items that supply them with their livelihood--their ears!  SignatureTodd > MZ, I have to agree with you again! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > listen to their system in the mixing room. That will clue you into what accurate sound > reproduction is. But some people like to listen to their sound systems INSTEAD OF listening to the music. They prefer to thump around. Good for them. I just don't understand them, that's all. > Thump, thump, thump and no recognizeable mids or highs is simply a dead giveaway that you > don't understand anything about music or sound reproduction. Amplitudes above 85 to 90 dB > for sustained periods are DAMAGING to you hearing. DON'T do it! No pro engineer or > producer will subject themselves to it because they know it is a direct attack on the > items that supply them with their livelihood--their ears! Yeah, but with sub bass you'll have a much harder time damaging your hearing. |
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