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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / May 2004

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Power-handling of a DVC sub reduced when only using one coil?

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Scott Gardner - 29 May 2004 05:02 GMT
Earlier today, a poster asked if there was any way to wire two DVC
subs that have 4-ohm coils in such a way as to present a total
impedance of 2 ohms.  

I said that there wasn't, but thinking more on it, I realized that it
CAN be done, but the method is a little weird - take one 4-ohm voice
coil from each sub, wire them together in parallel to make a 2-ohm
overall load, and connect them to the amp.

What I'm not sure about is how much the power handling capability of a
sub is reduced if you only use one of the two voice coils.  Is the
power-handling cut exactly in half, or is it somewhere between half of
the original rating and the full original rating?  It seems to me it
would depend on whether the original power limit was determined solely
by the coils, or by the rest of the speaker structure as well.

I know that he could get the same 2-ohm load by just using a single
sub and wiring both coils in parallel, but if he used both subs, he
would get the benefit of increased cone area, and the combined power
handling of two subs using a single coil each might be higher than a
single sub using both coils.

I know the best solution to his problem is just to run both subs as a
combined 4-ohm load and call it good, or use different subs if he
*really* wants an overall 2-ohm load, but thinking about the problem
got me curious.

Any thoughts?  Does anyone have experience using only a single coil of
a DVC sub?

Scott Gardner
MZ - 29 May 2004 05:58 GMT
> Any thoughts?  Does anyone have experience using only a single coil of
> a DVC sub?

Your assumption is correct.  You don't halve the power handling.  The other
coil actually acts as a sort of heat sink.  Overall, the heat dissipation
efficiency is increased with just the one coil.  As a result, the power
handling will be somewhere between the original and half of the original.
Where it is exactly depends on the driver.
Scott Gardner - 29 May 2004 14:58 GMT
>> Any thoughts?  Does anyone have experience using only a single coil of
>> a DVC sub?
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>handling will be somewhere between the original and half of the original.
>Where it is exactly depends on the driver.

Thanks, that's what I thought.  I still think he'd be better off
running the two subs as a four-ohm load or getting different subs if
he wants a four-ohm load, but it's good to know the option's there.

Do the Thiele-Small parameters change much when you only use a single
coil?  I guess the whole power-handling issue would be moot if we
couldn't design a proper box for the subs.

Scott Gardner
MZ - 29 May 2004 16:17 GMT
> Do the Thiele-Small parameters change much when you only use a single
> coil?  I guess the whole power-handling issue would be moot if we
> couldn't design a proper box for the subs.

This should answer all your questions:

http://www.adireaudio.com/Files/TechPapers/RDOOperation.pdf
Scott Gardner - 29 May 2004 17:41 GMT
Exactly what I was looking for, both in regards to the power-handling
issue and the change in T-S parameters.  Thanks, Mark.

Scott Gardner

>> Do the Thiele-Small parameters change much when you only use a single
>> coil?  I guess the whole power-handling issue would be moot if we
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>http://www.adireaudio.com/Files/TechPapers/RDOOperation.pdf
Kevin McMurtrie - 29 May 2004 06:59 GMT
> Earlier today, a poster asked if there was any way to wire two DVC
> subs that have 4-ohm coils in such a way as to present a total
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>
> Scott Gardner

Many spec sheets will give two sets of numbers.  One is for using both
coils, the other for using one.  It performs a little better if you use
both.
 
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