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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / June 2004Good Deal?
Just picked up a Directed 600/5 from eBay which the seller says it's brand new for $275+$20 for shipping. It was the amp I am looking for, good deal? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5702695655 Decent price for sure !! The other DEI and Viper 5 channels arent so ho . Those models 600/5 and 1200/5 are nice though ! You're gonna pus the sub channel at 2 ohms I assume -- Mister_ Yea most likely...gonna be using one 12" Alpine Type-R for that. . . ;) Interiors not sure yet. Source unit will be a Pioneer AVH-6500DVD. Funny thing is that I will not be using the amp for like a year when I get the new car. Just getting all the stuff ready and buying it at a leisurely pace. > Decent price for sure !! The other DEI and Viper 5 channels arent so hot > . Those models 600/5 and 1200/5 are nice though ! You're gonna push > the sub channel at 2 ohms I assume ? Um, excuse me but what do you base that on? The Viper 450.5, Directed 450d5, and this year's 600/5 are in fact pretty much the same unit, other than the Viper having more variable filters than the two Directed variants. Same for the 1100d5 and 1100.5 vs. the 1200/5... if you can tell any difference between these units other than the obvious: plugs vs. terminals, variable filters vs. switches, and heat sink appearance, I'm a monkey's uncle. Going back farther (2001 and earlier), the Directed class AB models 350 and 650 were no slouches either, with dual power supplies and more than adequate bass power and very reasonably priced. Granted, the newer hybrid models probably give you a little more bang for the buck on the sub channel - as they should given the slight price premium - but all of our 5 channel models have performed extremely well, not a gutless one in the bunch. The 600/5 sub channel should be run @ 2 ohm for optimum performance... it's noticeably stronger that way vs. at 4 ohm. JD >Decent price for sure !! The other DEI and Viper 5 channels arent so hot >.. Those models 600/5 and 1200/5 are nice though ! You're gonna push >the sub channel at 2 ohms I assume ? > I have seen quite a few "other" Dei/Viper 5 channel models dies prett easily .. Case closed . -- Mister_ Good for you... I have access to the failure rate data for every amp we've ever shipped, and these units are rock solid both for performance and reliability. But thanks for your help in not answering this guy's question. JD = product manager for the amps you are badmouthing >I have seen quite a few "other" Dei/Viper 5 channel models dies pretty >easily .. Case closed .. > >But thanks for your help in not answering this guy's question. He reminds me of an idiot I had in my store once. He brought back a brand new head unit that he had obvisouly burnt via incorrect installation. I gave him an over-the-counter exchange, but cautioned him I would only do this once, and that he needed to be more careful. His answer? "don't give me that crap. I'm a PROFESSIONAL installer, and I KNOW for a fact at leat 40% of Pioneer radios are bad out the box." So, JD, the jig is up. Everything Directed makes probably has a 40% defect rate too. Just ask a PROFESSIONAL. . www.MAINSTREET-AUDIO.com ~ ~ ~ Where SERVICE never goes out of style ~ ~ ~ V I S I T O U R F O R U M http://63.74.14.174/forum/phpBB2/index.php > >But thanks for your help in not answering this guy's question. > > He reminds me of an idiot I had in my store once. > He brought back a brand new head unit that he had obvisouly burnt via incorrect installation. > I gave him an over-the-counter exchange, but cautioned him I would only do this once, and that he needed to be more careful. > His answer? "don't give me that crap. I'm a PROFESSIONAL installer, and I > KNOW for a fact at leat 40% of Pioneer radios are bad out the box." [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > V I S I T O U R F O R U M > http://63.74.14.174/forum/phpBB2/index.php that is funny! if any company shipped 40% of their products in a defective state they couldn't stay in business. some of the snake oil some people say is mind boggling. don't they think for a second and use common sense. Thanks for the tip John, I was debating on what Alpine Type-R to get, now I think I will just get the dual 4ohm sub and wire each coil in parallel to get my 2 ohm load. > The 600/5 sub channel should be run @ 2 ohm for optimum performance... > it's noticeably stronger that way vs. at 4 ohm. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >.. Those models 600/5 and 1200/5 are nice though ! You're gonna push > >the sub channel at 2 ohms I assume ? Oh and another question John, since I am assuming you work for DEI. The auction I won was closed (after I won the item) by eBay due the vero program (Verified Rights Owner). Does DEI forbid their products to be sold on eBay? > Um, excuse me but what do you base that on? The Viper 450.5, Directed > 450d5, and this year's 600/5 are in fact pretty much the same unit, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >.. Those models 600/5 and 1200/5 are nice though ! You're gonna push > >the sub channel at 2 ohms I assume ? Was it closed after John came here mayhem ? I bet he had um close it an bought their stock up .. He seems like he has something stuck up hi you know what .. All kind of DEI products are sold on ebay - Viper to . -- Mister_ no before. . .so doubt it was him. > Was it closed after John came here mayhem ? I bet he had um close it and > bought their stock up .. He seems like he has something stuck up his > you know what .. All kind of DEI products are sold on ebay - Viper too > .. > The >auction I won was closed (after I won the item) by eBay due the vero program >(Verified Rights Owner). Does DEI forbid their products to be sold on eBay? It was probably MY auction you were looking at. I'm on Ebay as Full-Line-Audio. Do you still want the amp? I'm a long time Directed dealer, and in fact the first authorized online dealer for a couple of their audio brands. As such, I have always done what I can to enhance the perceived value of Directed products in the marketplace. I was offered closeout deals on the Viper amplifiers, and was told by my salesman, as is usual with closeouts, that I could do what I want with them to blow them out. So I put them on Ebay. As you know, Directed then went ahead and had Ebay pull my listings for the closeout products. A letter to their legal department, reminding them that I am an authorized dealer, and of the circumstances under which this product was offered to me was met with "whatever our salespeople told you verbally is unenforceable. You are not allowed to discount these products" How's that for nice business practice? Actually, JD is trying to obtain a more palatable solution in my behalf. Meanwhile, I'm a step away from losing my Ebay account, and have a pile of Viper amps that I can't move. . www.MAINSTREET-AUDIO.com ~ ~ ~ Where SERVICE never goes out of style ~ ~ ~ V I S I T O U R F O R U M http://63.74.14.174/forum/phpBB2/index.php I am not sure if it was your auction or not, cause I did pay for the amp, cause I won the auction with a buy it now price. So everything "should" have went through already. According to the person who I was emailing with said the amp was shipped yesterday. > > The > >auction I won was closed (after I won the item) by eBay due the vero program [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > V I S I T O U R F O R U M > http://63.74.14.174/forum/phpBB2/index.php Not sure, depends on the auction content probably... JD >Oh and another question John, since I am assuming you work for DEI. The >auction I won was closed (after I won the item) by eBay due the vero program [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > |
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