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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / September 2004

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Pioneer Premeir DEH-P8MP RMS power?

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bbkcs - 06 Sep 2004 18:56 GMT
Does anyone know the RMS power output of the DEH-P8MP headunit by Pioneer? I know the peak power is 60x4, but that could still mean
RMS is only 25 watts per channel.
Thanks.
Les - 06 Sep 2004 20:50 GMT
> Does anyone know the RMS power output of the DEH-P8MP headunit by Pioneer? I know the peak power is 60x4, but that could still mean
> RMS is only 25 watts per channel.
> Thanks.

Likely you'll be around 12-15 watts RMS at best. HU power ratings are
notoriously overrated and dubiously acheived. Don't expect much.

Les
Pierre_Cat - 07 Sep 2004 16:06 GMT
"Les" <lbsound@yahoo.com> wrote in message


> Likely you'll be around 12-15 watts RMS at best. HU power ratings are
> notoriously overrated and dubiously acheived. Don't expect much.

is the classical statement "internal amp are useless crap" that true?
I'm not so sure. Of course, you won't go very loud with 20w rms, but I
think it is plenty enough for many use: pushing the volume beyond 2/3
on many "powerful" headunits is not comfortable for most people, so
what's the point?

- distortion? but what are the facts? what are *really* the specs of
headunit internal amps? just consider for example JVC sh series of
headunit: 19-22w rms (depending on the model, and assuming 13v voltage
which is quite conservative), at 0.8%THD. Higher than an internal amp,
but still acceptable especially considering you won't listen it at
full volume (and thus at lower THD). And Pioneer HU are likely even
better.

- However, there is one aspect which explains why external amp often
sounds better, I just experimented it myself with a Blaupunkt GTA450
amp: using integrated crossover, you can prevent the speakers from
distorting and it *really* makes a difference. But this could be done
with a simple high pass filter without the external amp. And when
comparing the GTA450 to the internal amp of my headunit at my usual
listing level, without highpassing the speakers, I couldn't hear any
difference. Of course, the external amp can go much louder than my
internal amp, but if you don't need the extra loudness that's
useless...

So, if like ear-blasting music, or if you want to power a sub, then of
course the internal amp of the headunit is not adequate; but for
powering 2 (or even 4) speakers at a moderate listening level it is
perfectly Ok IMHO. In my case I think that my GTA450 is useless right
now, unless I go for a sub later.

Just an opinion
Kirby - 09 Sep 2004 05:47 GMT
Surprisingly, this is the best help I've actually ever read on here. Good
work!

> "Les" <lbsound@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Just an opinion
Mister_B - 11 Sep 2004 23:23 GMT
Download the manual , most likely RMS is less than 25 watts .

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