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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / September 2004Lurking this NG for Pyle Speakers Comments
__My Experience__ I just installed a pair of Pyle 6x9" model PLG693 triaxials in the backshelf of my 03 Impala, and to be quite honest, I noticed absolutely NO difference better or worse. I only paid $56 incl. shipping for them, so I consider it no big loss. The original GM 6x9s were cardboard with foam surround and a "whizzer" cone in the middle of the woofer - cheesy! But when I did a backseat comparison - Pyle on only one side and GM on the other with my eyes closed there was no difference. The pyle side was neither louder nor more treble, nor deeper bottom, but most importantly no muddier than it's GM neighbor. BTW the GM became muddy only if I turned up the bass and cranked Eiffel 65 through it. As far as I'm concerned, the scrawny 20AWG GM speaker wire combined what with my spade crimp-ons doesn't deliver nearly enough signal to really show an apparent difference between the two. At least I got the polarity right. And at least *these* Pyles use current materials - poly-cone with rubber surround, aluminum? mid & tweeter, and huge magnets weigh as much as the Impala! :) And that's a start. -ChrisCoaster > __My Experience__ > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > really show an apparent difference between the two. At least I got > the polarity right. The wiring and connectors has absolutely nothing to do with it. 20 ga wire is perfectly suitable for the kind of current we're talking about here. And crimped connectors are superior to soldered ones simply because they tend to be more rugged. I suspect the lack of a difference is due to the inadequate power that's driving the speakers. There could also be installation issues. Have you made sure there's a good seal between the speaker and its mounting location? I trust there aren't any perforations in the metal nearby, or any large holes between the trunk and cabin close to the speakers, right? Maybe you were expecting bigger differences than what's generally seen given the conditions you described. I think it's often difficult to judge a speaker when it's mounted in the back anyway. You should be happy that there wasn't a downgrade in sound quality, as has been reported by many folks in here who have replaced their stock speakers with expensive aftermarket ones. > > __My Experience__ > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > location? I trust there aren't any perforations in the metal nearby, or any > large holes between the trunk and cabin close to the speakers, right? These new Impalas have a huge hole in the sub-shelf(below the cosmetic shelf you must remove along with the rear seatback cushion) upon which the speakers are actually mounted. The hole is about 14"wide by 6" from front to rear, located between the speakers, and I would like to solder or bolt *something* - preferably sheet metal - to seal it up. There are enough smaller holes to permit the flow of cabin air from front through the rear and out, so I don't know why they left this enormous opening, 'cept maybe to cut cost or save weight? > Maybe you were expecting bigger differences than what's generally seen given > the conditions you described. I think it's often difficult to judge a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > been reported by many folks in here who have replaced their stock speakers > with expensive aftermarket ones. True. It's also common knowledge that all speakers have "break-in" periods that vary by brand and by models within brands. I've only had the Pyles in for 48 hours as of this typing. Thanks for your input - it was certainly objective, and a refreshing break from all the "Pyle bashing" I've seen while lurking here and elsewhere. : ) -CC "> True. It's also common knowledge that all speakers have "break-in" > periods that vary by brand and by models within brands. I've only had > the Pyles in for 48 hours as of this typing. Speakers will "break-in" within seconds of first being played. It is a common audio myth widely held by "audiophiles" and some manufactures. A speaker doesn't break-in but rather your ears adjust to the sound. Which is why manufactures are so apt to not deny the myth, you keep 'em for 2 weeks and you'll likely keep them longer. Take a look on google for this topic and you will have more than enough reading. > Thanks for your input - it was certainly objective, and a refreshing > break from all the "Pyle bashing" I've seen while lurking here and > elsewhere. Nothing wrong with them, they have their intended market and price point and perform reasonably well. Les > These new Impalas have a huge hole in the sub-shelf(below the cosmetic > shelf you must remove along with the rear seatback cushion) upon which [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > front through the rear and out, so I don't know why they left this > enormous opening, 'cept maybe to cut cost or save weight? You may even be able to use two pieces of dynamat to just "sandwich" the hole. One piece on top, one piece below. That's usually what I do unless the hole is enormous. > > Maybe you were expecting bigger differences than what's generally seen given > > the conditions you described. I think it's often difficult to judge a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > periods that vary by brand and by models within brands. I've only had > the Pyles in for 48 hours as of this typing. "Break-in" is actually a function of the human brain, not the speakers themselves. There's never been any evidence supporting the notion that break-in actually exists, yet there's been evidence supplied against it. However, it's been well established that the human brain grows accustomed to the differences in sound. Or, perhaps in your case, you're not noticing much of a difference because you may have been expecting a huge difference. > > These new Impalas have a huge hole in the sub-shelf(below the cosmetic > > shelf you must remove along with the rear seatback cushion) upon which [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > hole. One piece on top, one piece below. That's usually what I do unless > the hole is enormous. _____________________ Where can I pick up sheets of that stuff? Again, the hole is 14" wide by 6", so I don't know if that qualifies as enormous. -CC > > You may even be able to use two pieces of dynamat to just "sandwich" the > > hole. One piece on top, one piece below. That's usually what I do unless [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Where can I pick up sheets of that stuff? Again, the hole is 14" wide > by 6", so I don't know if that qualifies as enormous. That's a pretty big hole, but it would still probably work ok as long as you can find a piece that's longer than 14" along one dimension. Best Buy sells it, as well as most car audio shops. > > > You may even be able to use two pieces of dynamat to just "sandwich" the > > > hole. One piece on top, one piece below. That's usually what I do [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > can find a piece that's longer than 14" along one dimension. Best Buy sells > it, as well as most car audio shops. ___________________ Damn, somehow I know you'd say that(pretty big)! Well, I've found some on mcm's website www.mcminone.com ? They sell it in 18"x30" sheets, so I think I'm in luck there. It will sure beat the Glad Wrap I've got taped across there now. : ) BTW on closer examination all four Impala speakers are mounted, not to the actual sheet metal, but to plastic "risers" which are mounted to the metal, both the door fronts and the deck rears. The fronts are 6.25" rounds with a sep. tweeter, and they provide all the bass. So much in fact I have to turn my GM stock's bass halfway down. So I guess a round speaker, even though smaller, can outbass a 6x9 or other oval shaped driver? -CC >__My Experience__ > >I just installed a pair of Pyle 6x9" model PLG693 triaxials in the >backshelf of my 03 Impala, and to be quite honest, I noticed >absolutely NO difference better or worse. I only paid $56 incl. >shipping for them, so I consider it no big loss. Back in the day Pyle was the name to have for subs. It seems that the day is long gone and Pyle stuff is pretty sub par these days. I bought a Pyle head unit for my Cadi since it was 1.5 din and had CD/Cassette. Paid a little over $100 for it. I installed the abomination in my car and hated it. Every button you pushed elicited sounds from 1983's Space Invaders and sound quality was worse than my factory unit. Needless to say the Pile (sic) went on E-bay and the factory unit went back in. Steve B. |
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