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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / September 2004

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Cellphone feedback through sub

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Neil - 21 Sep 2004 19:00 GMT
I have had two conflicting opinions on this issue.  My cellphone causes
feedback through my subwoofer.  The phone is a hand held phone (not
installed in the vehicle).

My car audio dealership has never heard of this happening before.  They
tested the truck with my cellphone and heard the feedback.  They used two
other phones (different models than mine) and did not hear any feedback.  
They tell me that it is a problem with my phone and that I should get it
checked before I start growing some sort of tumour.

On the other hand, the cell dealership says that it is a common problem and
that there is not much that can be done about it.

I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
hear it rattle my sub.  Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the stereo
off each time I want to use my cell.  Try answering the phone, fighting
with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
turning the stereo off.  It's getting a little dangerous.

I suspect the cell phone guys are correct, but a little reassurance by a
disinterested 3rd party would be nice.  Also, any solutions to the feedback
problem would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Chris Guynn - 21 Sep 2004 19:30 GMT
> I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
> hear it rattle my sub.  Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the stereo
> off each time I want to use my cell.  Try answering the phone, fighting
> with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
> turning the stereo off.  It's getting a little dangerous.

How about this... don't talk on your phone while driving.  It's safer for
everyone that way.
Chad Wahls - 22 Sep 2004 14:24 GMT
>> I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
>> hear it rattle my sub.  Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the
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> How about this... don't talk on your phone while driving.  It's safer for
> everyone that way.

How bout this geneious (Chris)  The phone emits signal when it rings (can't
help than now can he) or when it updates status or handshakes with a new
cell, Hmmmmmm.

Chad
Chris Guynn - 22 Sep 2004 15:40 GMT
> >> I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
> >> hear it rattle my sub.  Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the
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> How bout this geneious (Chris)  The phone emits signal when it rings (can't
> help than now can he)

Sure he can.  Put th phone in vibrate mode and it doesn't ring.  Oh, and
thanks for calling me a geneious [sic], but I don't really deserve it.

> or when it updates status or handshakes with a new
> cell, Hmmmmmm.

Neither of which would last long enough to worry about.
Chad Wahls - 22 Sep 2004 20:21 GMT
>> >> I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting
>> >> to
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> Sure he can.  Put th phone in vibrate mode and it doesn't ring.  Oh, and
> thanks for calling me a geneious [sic], but I don't really deserve it.

Uh, it's the RF that's causing the noise in the system not the ringer, it
will still transmit RF back to the repeater and cause the ticking / honking
sound if the ringer is off.

>> or when it updates status or handshakes with a new
>> cell, Hmmmmmm.
>
> Neither of which would last long enough to worry about.

About 3 seconds per handshake, and if the RFI is severe enough can actually
be quite loud and disturbing.  Just depends on the RF rejection of the
system.

Chad
cyrus - 21 Sep 2004 19:50 GMT
> I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
> hear it rattle my sub.  Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the stereo
> off each time I want to use my cell.  Try answering the phone, fighting
> with the kids, eating a Big Mac, plucking your nose hair, driving AND
> turning the stereo off.  It's getting a little dangerous.

Paying attention to the road should be a little higher on that list.

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Neil - 21 Sep 2004 21:29 GMT
>> I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting
>> to hear it rattle my sub.  Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn
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>
> Paying attention to the road should be a little higher on that list.

Maybe contraception should have been higher on your parents' list.  Surely
even a duncical person like you can recognize sarcasm.
cyrus - 21 Sep 2004 22:00 GMT
> >> I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting
> >> to hear it rattle my sub.  Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn
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> Maybe contraception should have been higher on your parents' list.  Surely
> even a duncical person like you can recognize sarcasm.

The sexual habits of my parents or your supposed sarcasm have no place
here. And especially have nothing to do with your cell phone probs, big
macs or nose hairs.

If its only your phone that makes the noise in your subs, then your
phone is the problem smart guy.

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Neil - 21 Sep 2004 22:25 GMT
>> >> I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little
>> >> disconcerting to hear it rattle my sub.  Plus, it is inconvenient
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> If its only your phone that makes the noise in your subs, then your
> phone is the problem smart guy.

Man, you're a bundle of laughs.  Sorry if I upset you.
cyrus - 21 Sep 2004 23:03 GMT
> >> >> I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little
> >> >> disconcerting to hear it rattle my sub.  Plus, it is inconvenient
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>
> Man, you're a bundle of laughs.  Sorry if I upset you.

Thank you and no problem.

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Bruce Chang - 21 Sep 2004 19:55 GMT
> I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
> hear it rattle my sub.  Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the stereo
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Thanks in advance.

Why dont' you wire in a switch for the remote line for the sub amp?  Or
maybe your gains are set improperly?  I get a buzz through my computer
speakers when my phone is receiving a call, if that makes you feel better
about you not being the only one.

-Bruce
Kirby - 21 Sep 2004 20:26 GMT
A friend of mine's cell phone also makes her computer speakers go nuts
whenever she recieves a call.

>> I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
>> hear it rattle my sub.  Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the
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>
> -Bruce
Neil - 21 Sep 2004 21:21 GMT
"Bruce Chang" <bechang@swspambegonebell.net> wrote in news:2P_3d.205
$q67.187@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:

>> I realize that all phones emit EMR, but it is a little disconcerting to
>> hear it rattle my sub.  Plus, it is inconvenient to have to turn the
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>
> -Bruce

Thanks for the helpful response.  Some people have no sense of humour.  
Bruce Chang - 21 Sep 2004 21:41 GMT
> "Bruce Chang" <bechang@swspambegonebell.net> wrote in news:2P_3d.205
> $q67.187@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:
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>
> Thanks for the helpful response.  Some people have no sense of humour.

I figured since your name isn't Vishnu, you had to be kidding.  Though I
thought it'd be funny if you were posting for your wife.  Plucking your nose
hair.. lol.
Chad Wahls - 22 Sep 2004 15:03 GMT
> "Bruce Chang" <bechang@swspambegonebell.net> wrote in news:2P_3d.205
> $q67.187@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:
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>
> Thanks for the helpful response.  Some people have no sense of humour.

Neil,

Do you set the phone in the middle of the front seat next to you?  Where
does your signal wire run?  Mine ran down the transmission hump and yes it
caused an awful racket.  Relocating the line level signal to a door jamb
solved the problem.

I am a live sound engineer and back in the day I used to sit my old analog
phone on the master section of the mixing console, good clock and I knew
when someone called, no big deal.  The big deal came when I got a GMRS phone
and played the same trick.  You think that your computer or car system makes
and awful racket?  You should hear that through 100Kw of  EAW/Crown.
Needless to say The phone no longer resides on the master section!!!!

Chad
Neil - 24 Sep 2004 23:33 GMT
>> "Bruce Chang" <bechang@swspambegonebell.net> wrote in news:2P_3d.205
>> $q67.187@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:
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>
> Chad

Now that would be something to hear!  Actually, I do keep the phone in
the center console and the signal wire runs up the middle to.  I will
try to reroute it, 'cause that makes sense.

Thanks for the advice.

Neil
mayhemkrew - 21 Sep 2004 22:50 GMT
Common problem if it's a Nextel.

>I have had two conflicting opinions on this issue.  My cellphone causes
> feedback through my subwoofer.  The phone is a hand held phone (not
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Thanks in advance.
Les - 21 Sep 2004 22:56 GMT
> I suspect the cell phone guys are correct, but a little reassurance by a
> disinterested 3rd party would be nice.  Also, any solutions to the feedback
> problem would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.

My phone does it in the car, in the PA system if it's to close, through my
guitar amp (sounds really odd when playing with the Phaser pedal). Basically
if I get too close to electronic equipment, especially cheap equipment, then
it will do it.

All of these devices have to accept interference, harmful or not, so I
wouldn't worry about it. I know several people who have the same problem.

Les
Neil - 21 Sep 2004 23:03 GMT
>> I suspect the cell phone guys are correct, but a little reassurance
>> by a disinterested 3rd party would be nice.  Also, any solutions to
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Les

Thanks, I had a feeling that was the case, but it is reassuring to know my
phone's no more dangerous than average (unless it is used while driving)
jeremy - 24 Sep 2004 10:29 GMT
> I have had two conflicting opinions on this issue.  My cellphone causes
> feedback through my subwoofer.  The phone is a hand held phone (not
> installed in the vehicle).
my phone used to cause said interference on the pa at the cafe/bar i can
usually be found kicking around in. i haven't had any lumps big enough
to warrant surgery yet.
Neil - 24 Sep 2004 23:35 GMT
jeremy <jeremy@get.com> wrote in news:4153e910$1_1@mk-nntp-
2.news.uk.tiscali.com:

>> I have had two conflicting opinions on this issue.  My cellphone causes
>> feedback through my subwoofer.  The phone is a hand held phone (not
>> installed in the vehicle).
> my phone used to cause said interference on the pa at the cafe/bar i can
> usually be found kicking around in. i haven't had any lumps big enough
> to warrant surgery yet.

I've resorted to keeping my phone in my y-fronts.  

Bigger's always better.
 
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