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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / September 2004Petitions against "Boom Cars"
There are a quite a few websites that post petitions to make boom car illegal.We think that this is unfair.We love what we do.Team Xtreme ha posted a petition to fight against these laws that have passed in som states already.If you enjoy Car Audio and love your systems sign ou petition.We will fight to keep what we love doing. Stop by our websit at www.teamxtremeaudio.com and help us fight these types of laws fro happenin -- teamxtremeaudi CarAudioForum.com - Usenet Gateway w/over one million posts online This is funny: http://teamxtremeaz.tripod.com/boomcar.jpg A real car audio lover would have respect for his neighbors! >There are a quite a few websites that post petitions to make boom cars >illegal.We think that this is unfair.We love what we do.Team Xtreme has [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >at www.teamxtremeaudio.com and help us fight these types of laws from >happening If the equipment in the picture was worth a dime. It would be in the officers personal vehicle or sold at auction. >This is funny: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >>at www.teamxtremeaudio.com and help us fight these types of laws from >>happening > This is funny: > > http://teamxtremeaz.tripod.com/boomcar.jpg > > A real car audio lover would have respect for his neighbors! I wouldn't call it funny. I'd call it a travesty. The law has essentially become an instrument whereby person A can force (all force requires an ultimate threat of violence) person B to hand over his audio equipment to be DESTROYED (audio equipment! we're not talking about explosives or semiautomatic weapons here! it's frickin' audio equipment!). "I don't like your stuff. And a lot of voters don't like your stuff either. So I'll destroy it. When I'm done, I'll drive off on my expensive 120 dB Harley." I'm sure that cop thinks he's "making a difference". Instead, these laws turn his job into nothing more than a joke. They spend the majority of their time issuing traffic tickets for meaningless offenses, upholding nonuniform noise ordinances, and busting people for ingesting substances that congress deems inappropriate (because they know how to live your life better than you do). The remaining 1% of their time, maybe they're actually fighting real crime. Maybe. So now car audio is the new scapegoat. Once it was drugs, then it was guns, then it was pornography, then music, tv, and radio. Car audio is the new terror! And no, folks, it's not about noise ordinances. Motorcycles are not illegal. Semis are not illegal. Airplanes are not illegal. And, honestly, anything that the upper-middle class likes (and admits to liking) is not illegal. I've made a point in this newsgroup for years to criticize the folks who essentially buy audio gear as their penis extension. But dragging the law into it, and therefore exerting one's will by sheer force, is not the answer to what's basically nothing more than an issue of consideration and tolerance. It's downright sickening. I highly doubt this equipment bashing by the cops is really happening. Anyone actually personally witness this sort of thing or know firsthand? Tony  SignatureSony CDX C90 Head Unit, Phoenix Gold ZX475ti, ZX450 and ZX500 Amplifiers, Phoenix Gold EQ-232 30-Band EQ, Dynaudio System 360 Tri-Amped In Front and Focal 130HCs For Rear Fill, 2 Soundstream EXACT10s In Aperiodic Enclosure >> This is funny: >> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > to what's basically nothing more than an issue of consideration and > tolerance. It's downright sickening. > I highly doubt this equipment bashing by the cops is really happening. > Anyone actually personally witness this sort of thing or know firsthand It probably is. They destroy skateboards and the like. Why should audio equipment be any different? it may be a travesty to some, but to others it is a relief! Alot of folks, and I mean alot!! Hate the boomers that cruise through the neighborhoods late at night with no reguard to anyone else.... As most of you know, I have been in the car audio biz for 30 years, I have fought with neighborhood groups that wanted my shop shut down because of noise, I have fought with the cops about it over and over.. I have been threatened with lawsuits many times by neighbors of our store... Anyone with any sense could have seen the laws coming!! It may be too late for some areas to avoid legistature against car audio, but the real problem is educating the kids to BE POLITE with how they use the stereo!! Thats really the bottom line...!! Eddie Runner > > This is funny: > > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > to what's basically nothing more than an issue of consideration and > tolerance. It's downright sickening. > it may be a travesty to some, but to others it is a relief! > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Thats really the bottom line...!! That's right. That is the bottom line. Turning to the law is not the answer though. First it's audio equipment, next it's anything that produces noise. And, well, at least by doing so, they could at least claim that they're being consistent. Besides, with these kinds of matters, it'll probably encourage "booming" rather than dissuade it. Just like parental warnings on CDs or even drug use. You'd might as well shut down those fart-pipe companies too. They're mroe annoying than a "boom car". > it may be a travesty to some, but to others it is a relief! > [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >> to what's basically nothing more than an issue of consideration and >> tolerance. It's downright sickening. Kirby wrote: "You'd might as well shut down those fart-pipe companies too. They're mroe annoying than a "boom car"." Amen!!! Tony SignatureSony CDX C90 Head Unit, Phoenix Gold ZX475ti, ZX450 and ZX500 Amplifiers, Phoenix Gold EQ-232 30-Band EQ, Dynaudio System 360 Tri-Amped In Front and Focal 130HCs For Rear Fill, 2 Soundstream EXACT10s In Aperiodic Enclosure > You'd might as well shut down those fart-pipe companies too. They're mroe > annoying than a "boom car". [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >>> to what's basically nothing more than an issue of consideration and >>> tolerance. It's downright sickening. I call them Fart Tubes! These tubes "may" boost their cars performance, but these fart tubers should have saved their money and bought a real car instead of a buying ricer in the first place. Fart tubes are far more annoying than booming cars. >You'd might as well shut down those fart-pipe companies too. They're mroe >annoying than a "boom car". [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] >>> to what's basically nothing more than an issue of consideration and >>> tolerance. It's downright sickening. >I call them Fart Tubes! These tubes "may" boost their cars > performance, but these fart tubers should have saved their money and > bought a real car instead of a buying ricer in the first place. Fart > tubes are far more annoying than booming cars. I'd love for someone to explain to me how strapping a coffee can on the end of a tube can improve performance. Unless the cavity is exactly tuned to the exaust tube from the collector then it can actually worsen performance by causing unwanted backpressure. A big tube from the collector is the only way to go! Chad Or most motorycles, including harley davidsons.... BUT, the mentalify here is different, motorcyle dudes or fart car dudes dont wake folks up by driving crazy through old folks neighborhoods in the middle of the night BOOM CARS do it every night (in my neighborhood!!) My do motorcycles take it easy and boom cars act like they wanna wake folks up..?? Back to my original point, if boom cars GET SOME MANNERS then none of us would have any problems and there would be no need for any legislation or petitions agains these things... Eddie Runner > You'd might as well shut down those fart-pipe companies too. They're mroe > annoying than a "boom car". [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > >> to what's basically nothing more than an issue of consideration and > >> tolerance. It's downright sickening. Most people that have boom cars are teenaged kids that have nothing better to do. I rather have them spending money on there cars than having them spend it on drugs. > Most people that have boom cars are teenaged kids that have nothing better > to > do. I rather have them spending money on there cars than having them spend > it > on drugs. Hell, I don't care what you put in your body. Smoking a little dope doesn't knock the pictures off my walls. Better yet smoke a little dope and if you still have money afterwards buy a high end stereo for your home, and enjoy it while you are high. If you like music that much you may even learn what it is SUPPOSED to sound like and enjoy it .You will appreciate this much more when you go to college and don't have time to drive around and annoy people. THEN you can build a system that has accurate reproduction that YOU can enjoy listening to on your way to your REAL job. Yes I'm being facetious but get a clue, that's the oldest excuse in the book. It's like saying "I carry around a bright red bull horn and talk to everyone through it while I poke them in the forehead with a screwdriver, but at least I don't smoke crack!" Chad > You will appreciate this much more when you go to college and > don't have time to drive around and annoy people. Have you BEEN to a college campus recently? >> You will appreciate this much more when you go to college and >> don't have time to drive around and annoy people. > > Have you BEEN to a college campus recently? Work on one every day. It's a little rowdy for the first month or so then you start seeing flyers everywhere for cars and car audio for sale. Just saw a new one in the elevator as I came down to reply to this. Where I went to school you weren't allowed to have a car as a freshman unless you were in the military or had a family crisis, they frowned on sophomores having one. Right now it's pretty tame, an occasional boomer but it's pretty quiet. in another coupla weeks all the boomers will be townie kids trying to look cool to the college kids who gont give a F. Chad ya i didnt read all that but i seen the topic and thought i would thro some info in, in michigan they passed a law that if ur "stereo" can b heard from 10ft away, u get a fat fine.. then it doubles... et -- icu81 CarAudioForum.com - Usenet Gateway w/over one million posts online > Work on one every day. It's a little rowdy for the first month or so then > you start seeing flyers everywhere for cars and car audio for sale. Just [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > another coupla weeks all the boomers will be townie kids trying to look cool > to the college kids who gont give a F. I'm inferring that it's an urban campus that you're referring to. The suburban campuses, especially the expensive ones, tend to have the most mischief and, coincidentally, seem to have the most people driving by with their music loud. Only, instead of Ludacris it's Dave Matthews... >> Work on one every day. It's a little rowdy for the first month or so >> then [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > mischief and, coincidentally, seem to have the most people driving by with > their music loud. Only, instead of Ludacris it's Dave Matthews... University of Illinois, Big 10 School, not cheap but it ain't Harvard :) Beings as it's one of the word's top engineering schools the caliber of student may be a little higher here also. \Chad > University of Illinois, Big 10 School, not cheap but it ain't Harvard :) You're in U-C? > Beings as it's one of the word's top engineering schools the caliber of > student may be a little higher here also. That's what I hear. But then again, I was referring to places of similar caliber in Mass, where I'm originally from... >> University of Illinois, Big 10 School, not cheap but it ain't Harvard :) > > You're in U-C? Yep, I'm an Electronics Engineer for the School of Music. Are you farmiliar with the area? >> Beings as it's one of the word's top engineering schools the caliber of >> student may be a little higher here also. > > That's what I hear. But then again, I was referring to places of similar > caliber in Mass, where I'm originally from... Yeah it's different here. Uni's are not where the boomers hang, but boomer townies flock. Now the multitude of community colleges are where you find loud stangs and Honda's galore! In Illinois the population density is pretty low :) Chad > > You're in U-C? > > Yep, I'm an Electronics Engineer for the School of Music. Are you farmiliar > with the area? Passed through. I'm somewhat familiar with the EE program though. It's rather well-known. Fermi's out there too somewhere, isn't it? > > That's what I hear. But then again, I was referring to places of similar > > caliber in Mass, where I'm originally from... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > loud stangs and Honda's galore! In Illinois the population density is > pretty low :) In Mass, the state and community colleges tend to be where the students who actually have to work for a living are. Most smaller or mid-size states have one large state university and other smaller colleges. In Mass, for instance, UMass Boston, Dartmouth, and Lowell seem to have the more serious students (maybe because they're not going on daddy's money) whereas the much bigger and reasonably well known Amherst campus is where you go to party. Consequently, you'll find the boom cars in Amherst more than the other campuses. At UMass Boston, for example, you'll find more baby seats in cars than subwoofers. But my initial comment was actually geared towards the expensive suburban universities in the area. >> > You're in U-C? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Passed through. I'm somewhat familiar with the EE program though. It's > rather well-known. Fermi's out there too somewhere, isn't it? Fermi is in Batavia Il, About 2 hrs north. We have CERL here though which is the Army's construction Research Lab. I used to go there and work on their PA consisting of an a.s load of Electrovoice MT cabs to blast at concrete and do acoustics testing. They also have a sonic boom generator there. I really don't think I could work in that room without the urge to press the "shiny red beautiful button" (Ren & Stimpy) Our EE program is well known as is our Neuculear Physics, and computer science programs. If you use IE go to help and click about :) I hire a couple EE students here for grad work and will pobably soon be doing some grad lecturing on gurella electronic repair soon. They just get lost without the paper and calcs. I teach my guys how to go in bare handed with the power on, gives them the "feel" of how their designs will perform and how to get out of real-world situations. I have been a real world problem solver for some time now, don't know if that's good or bad, but it's fun! Chad > Our EE program is well known as is our Neuculear Physics, and computer > science programs. If you use IE go to help and click about :) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > problem solver for some time now, don't know if that's good or bad, but it's > fun! If an EE student can't plug it into matlab or a spice program, they don't seem to know what to do. Yes, I know folks with EE degrees that don't even know how to solder... (DSP is not electronics! they tell me) i agree with that!! > Most people that have boom cars are teenaged kids that have nothing better to > do. I rather have them spending money on there cars than having them spend it > on drugs. |
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