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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / January 2006QUESTION: Tool to cut door sheet-metal??
Hey guys! I really need some help. I'm trying to install some larger rear-fill drivers in my '99 Subaru Forester. I want to put some JL VR-600 (6.5" mid-bass drivers) where I had previously used stock speakers. I knew they were larger (the stock speakers were 4" or 5 1/4") and I was hoping to just shoe-horn them in with spacers and dynamat. No dice. I will have to make a larger hole. I really don't want to go out and buy an expensive cordless jigsaw or something as I would probably only use it this one time. Is there some type of saw or cutting tool (non-powered) that can do the trick? I'm bummed because today I just installed my rear-fill amp, but it has nothing to do! Thank you in advance! MOSFET Tin snips ? Crude but they do work as long as you use a proper gasket. Personally, I hate crude stuff like that but they do work. On another note ... nice choice in components. The VR series is very, very nice. Especially the tweeter, made by Eton I believe. To a large extent they get their smoothness from an underlapped xover setup along with the soft dome. And I do mean underlapped, LOL. But they have been well thought out and work great. -RG > Hey guys! I really need some help. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > MOSFET > Tin snips ? Crude but they do work as long as you use a proper gasket. > Personally, I hate crude stuff like that Thank you!! I'll try it tomorrow. I'm very crude so they should work well for me! MOSFET > > Tin snips ? Crude but they do work as long as you use a proper gasket. > > Personally, I hate crude stuff like that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > MOSFET Also, an air nibbler works well. But requires compressed air and some amount of space around it to orient it into nibbling position.  SignatureCyrus *coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough* >>>Tin snips ? Crude but they do work as long as you use a proper gasket. >>>Personally, I hate crude stuff like that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Also, an air nibbler works well. But requires compressed air and some > amount of space around it to orient it into nibbling position. There are electric nibblers as well, but they tend to be somewhat more expensive tools, and the OP was looking for something to be used probably only this one time. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0604-1, 01/24/2006 Tested on: 1/25/2006 8:24:01 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com > There are electric nibblers as well, but they tend to be somewhat more > expensive tools, and the OP was looking for something to be used > probably only this one time. Not so much. Ever hear of the Harbor Freight throwaway tools? 30bucks goes a long way there. Or depending on the household, there's one in the garage. SignatureCyrus *coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough* Also can try an auto parts store like O'Reilly Autoparts or another place that rents tools for one-off jobs such as this. Brandonb >>There are electric nibblers as well, but they tend to be somewhat more >>expensive tools, and the OP was looking for something to be used [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Or depending on the household, there's one in the garage. > Also, an air nibbler works well. But requires compressed air and some > amount of space around it to orient it into nibbling position. "Nibbler", what a cute name! Kind of a-la-Futurama! MOSFET >>Also, an air nibbler works well. But requires compressed air and some >>amount of space around it to orient it into nibbling position. > > "Nibbler", what a cute name! Kind of a-la-Futurama! Yeah, that's Bender's kid brother... --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0604-1, 01/24/2006 Tested on: 1/25/2006 10:40:35 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com "Tin snips ? Crude but they do work as long as you use a proper gasket. Personally, I hate crude stuff like that but they do work." I bought a set of tin snips for the exact purpose of cutting on door panels to fit my 8" midbasses in there. They worked great. Sears sells them separately but they also have a 3-piece set; one for straight ahead cutting, one for right-hand and one for left-hand cuts. Tony Signature2001 Nissan Maxima SE Anniversary Edition Clarion DRZ9255 Head Unit, Phoenix Gold ZX475ti, ZX450 and Xenon X1200.1 Amplifiers, Dynaudio System 360 Tri-Amped In Front and Focal 130HCs For Rear Fill, Image Dynamics IDMAX10 D4 v.3 Sub 2001 Chevy S10 ZR2 Pioneer DEH-P9600MP Head Unit, Phoenix Gold Ti500.4 Amp, Focal 165HC Speakers & Image Dynamics ID8 D4 v.3 Sub They worked great. Sears sells them > separately but they also have a 3-piece set; one for straight ahead > cutting, one for right-hand and one for left-hand cuts. > > Tony Thanks Tony. That's VERY encouraging (knowing you've used them makes me feel much more comfortable about this)! I, too, also want to use them to enlarge my front openings as well to accommodate the 8" woofers I bought. MOSFET One thing I forgot to mention, MOSFET, is that the tin snips work great only if you have enough room to manuever them around. They have a tendency to frustrate you more than anything if you're in tight quarters and can't get them or your hands to move around enough to get the best cutting angle. Just something to keep in mind. Tony Signature2001 Nissan Maxima SE Anniversary Edition Clarion DRZ9255 Head Unit, Phoenix Gold ZX475ti, ZX450 and Xenon X1200.1 Amplifiers, Dynaudio System 360 Tri-Amped In Front and Focal 130HCs For Rear Fill, Image Dynamics IDMAX10 D4 v.3 Sub 2001 Chevy S10 ZR2 Pioneer DEH-P9600MP Head Unit, Phoenix Gold Ti500.4 Amp, Focal 165HC Speakers & Image Dynamics ID8 D4 v.3 Sub > One thing I forgot to mention, MOSFET, is that the tin snips work great only > if you have enough room to manuever them around. They have a tendency to > frustrate you more than anything if you're in tight quarters and can't get > them or your hands to move around enough to get the best cutting angle. > Just something to keep in mind. One idea when that's the case is instead of making a round cut, make several radial cuts around the existing hole, then bend the metal "tabs" down to open up the hole. Just be VERY careful of the sharp metal edges. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0604-1, 01/24/2006 Tested on: 1/25/2006 8:23:08 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com > One idea when that's the case is instead of making a round cut, make > several radial cuts around the existing hole, then bend the metal "tabs" > down to open up the hole. Just be VERY careful of the sharp metal edges. Thanks Matt!! I'll do that. Appreciate the advice! MOSFET >>One idea when that's the case is instead of making a round cut, make >>several radial cuts around the existing hole, then bend the metal "tabs" >>down to open up the hole. Just be VERY careful of the sharp metal edges. > > Thanks Matt!! I'll do that. Appreciate the advice! Welcome. One other suggestion: the deck where you're mounting will probably be pretty uneven, especially with the cutting; pick up some stick-on foam weatherstrip (it's like that sticky foam tape, but thicker) to run around the back of the speaker flange, to ensure it seals properly to the deck. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0604-1, 01/24/2006 Tested on: 1/25/2006 10:45:25 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com >>One idea when that's the case is instead of making a round cut, make >>several radial cuts around the existing hole, then bend the metal "tabs" >>down to open up the hole. Just be VERY careful of the sharp metal edges. > > Thanks Matt!! I'll do that. Appreciate the advice! ...addendum to my precious message: this is this stuff I'm talking about: http://www.shop.com/op/~STICK_ON_WEATHER_STRIP-prod-24848710 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0604-1, 01/24/2006 Tested on: 1/25/2006 10:46:09 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Hey Matt, I was reading through the FAQ just now and low and behold, you're a contributor! You are an Audio God!!! Nice work!! MOSFET > Hey Matt, I was reading through the FAQ just now and low and behold, you're > a contributor! You are an Audio God!!! Nice work!! Heh, I didn't even know I was in the FAQ. Thanks :) --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0604-4, 01/27/2006 Tested on: 1/27/2006 11:20:53 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com > Hey Matt, I was reading through the FAQ just now and low and behold, you're > a contributor! You are an Audio God!!! Nice work!! Holy smokes, that's a REALLY OLD email address... I don't think ship.net (or at least THAT ship.net) has even existed for about 10 years. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0604-4, 01/27/2006 Tested on: 1/27/2006 11:25:16 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Dont feed dear old mom for a while and she'll chew the metal tabs off for you. >One idea when that's the case is instead of making a round cut, make >several radial cuts around the existing hole, then bend the metal "tabs" [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com A plasma cutter would do the trick. Or tin snips and a grinder, so that you dont get that fine can opener cut lol. > A plasma cutter would do the trick. Or tin snips and a grinder, so that you > dont get that fine can opener cut lol. <Beavis & Butthead> YEAH! Plasma cutters are cool! Huh huh huh. FIRE! YES! Heheheh! </Beavis & Butthead> --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0604-2, 01/25/2006 Tested on: 1/25/2006 4:18:50 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com well done, I was thinking the same thing for some reason. Signature- AUSTIN BECKER > > A plasma cutter would do the trick. Or tin snips and a grinder, so that you > > dont get that fine can opener cut lol. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com I just bought and used a new set of tin snips (with kind of a curved blade and leveraged handle) and it WORKED PERFECTLY!! It was like cutting construction paper. No problem. I used some Dynamat around the edges before mounting and then I used some more over the speaker edge once seated to be sure I had a good, air-tight seal. I also used Dynamat to seal all the holes in the sheet metal in the door (to try and create as much as possible an airtight enclosure). I don't know if this helps much but as I want my rear-fill to really pump out the midbass and bass tends to be more susceptible to cancellation, I figure it can't hurt. Thank you all for the tips!!! My system has NEVER sounded better!! I have NO DOUBT this saved me time and money! MOSFET > I just bought and used a new set of tin snips (with kind of a curved blade > and leveraged handle) and it WORKED PERFECTLY!! It was like cutting [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thank you all for the tips!!! My system has NEVER sounded better!! I have > NO DOUBT this saved me time and money! Glad I could help... the bill is in the mail ;) --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0604-3, 01/26/2006 Tested on: 1/26/2006 5:53:14 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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