(1) Don't want to throw baby out with bath water
(2) Know what I can change, and what I can't.

Wrong and wrong.

Prove it.

Who says that "monkey bass" is the only kind of 40 Hz bass?

It's SPLs at the ear that matter, regardless of the distance between the
source and the ear.

Given that just lately two guys, one a well-known musician, offed each other
about 3 miles from my house in a gun battle over a pool game, and died about
600 feet from my house; pardon me if my thoughts are elsewhere.

Huhh?

BTW recording Bass just tain't that hard.

Yawn.

Why would I want to do such a thing?

Sounds like you want to take someone to court????

See my former comments about true and genuine tragedies.

Yawn.

Where do you live ? lol

www.lowertheboom.org What a bunch gay sh.t.

On Mon, Apr 24 2006 8:54 am, Arny Krueger wrote:

Well, you don't seem to care much. Maybe you're lucky enough to live in a minimal boom-car zone or a fairly isolated house.

That's a meaningless analogy. 40hz monkey bass isn't required for life itself. Concert hall volumes are not necessary when the listener is only feet away from the source. If you think I'm attacking the very existence of the subwoofer you didn't read for content. I'm talking about chronic abuse that serves no musical end.

Unless the bass is loud enough to break windows or you managed to record it with a high end microphone, it's only your word against the punks that it ever happened. They can't prosecute dissipated sound-waves.

Bass that you can feel in your gut is hard to record from a distance with typical camcorder mics, etc.. Even if you get them on videotape it's hard to prove how truly loud they were playing it.

You are the one who is sheltered (from obnoxious bass) if you think you can downgrade this to an eccentric complaint on my part.

www.nonoise.org, www.noisefree.org, www.noiseoff.org
www.lowertheboom.org (dedicated specifically to subwoofer noise)

Max

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As I said in my previous post, loud bass can CERTAINLY be annoying.  There
is NO DOUBT that many people act in a manner inconsiderate of their fellow
citizens.  I, for one, DO NOT condone this, nor do most people who regularly
post on this site.  But I read through some of these "anti-boom sites" and
found much of what was said pretty ridiculous.  They blame (in part) the car
audio industry for making bass-producing-products and want a ban on such
sales.

While I DEFINITELY agree that inflicting your bass on other people is WRONG,
what these people fail to realize is that many people (not just young kids)
LOVE LOUD LOW BASS.  I am 38, have a master's degree and have been a college
professor (among other professions) and I LOVE to listen to LOW BASS, in
fact I like those "bass discs" like Bass 305, Techmaster P.E.B, Bass
Mechanic and others.  I am careful to ONLY crank my system when I am not in
residential neighborhoods (or anywhere people would be annoyed).  But my
point is that PEOPLE LIKE LOW BASS, WE NEED BIG SUBWOOFERS AND AMPLIFIERS TO
REPRODUCE IT, AND IT IS HERE TO STAY!!!  We all just need to be responsible
about it.

What we DON'T NEED is RIDICULOUS statements like these (from the
lowertheboom website):

Boom car operators are often associated with many other types of crimes.

Boom car equipment manufacturers base their marketing platform on senseless
aggression, social agitation, and the destruction of the well-being of
decent citizens.

Boom cars are often used to announce the receipt of a new drug shipment to
a neighborhood.

You are leery of confronting an offender for fear you might be shot.

Military and educational system are advocating the use of boom car
technology because it reaches the kids.

The aggressive nature of the perpetrators has directly lead to the murders
of innocent victims.

FROM BOOM CAR "VICTIMS":

"When I hear/feel the booms, I feel like that hateful violent obscenity is
being constantly thrown at my body and being pounded into every cell of it.
I feel like I am being violently and hatefully acoustically raped. Like the
person driving the vehicle (or playing the stationary stereo system) would
prefer to come and rape and beat me, and everyone they are passing,
physically, but they know they can't get away with that.
So instead they use their car or their home/portable stereo system as the
weapon. Plus if they are in a car they get to accost and rape so many in
such a short time just by driving through any neighborhood!"

"... feel that any time a boom car goes by that I indeed being acoustically
raped. (Plus everyone else in the boom car's path also.) It's so outrageous
and I am perpetually stunned it's happening and not being stopped. The
combination of the loud pounding, the hostility and lack of consideration of
the driver, and the hateful violent hostility of most of the "music" that is
being played, is unbelievably unacceptable and offensive."

"I have also thought about taking my fight to the street with a ball bat
and a brick. The brick goes through the windshield of the Boom Car thus,
hopefully, stopping it long enough to use the ball bat on the boom car
bastard's head. Then they would understand why we hate them so much. I have
been BOOMED past insanity today by these bastards.

MOSFET

"monkey bass"  is it?

I wondered how long it would take you to play the race card - seems like
that happens about 100% of the time with you cowards that try and
propogate your anti-boom agenda here on RAC from behind an anonymous
user ID. Why don't you just admit it? You hate rap, you hate the people
that listen to it, and you hate the people that make it. It's just more
politically expedient for you to focus your complaints on boom cars as
they lack mainstream support, instead of taking on the whole hip-hop &
rap culture. Same reason why you don't try and target motorcycles, work
trucks, buses, lawncare machinery, etc. In other words, you're all a
bunch of pussies...

If you weren't such a whiny loser, I'd offer to have you over to my
house to hear some nice sub-40Hz bass coming from my large JBL monitors
with classical music, jazz, rock, etc. playing. Music doesn't have to be
rap to have plenty of LF content.

JD
you can kiss my hairy white monkey a.s, basically

I've had two experiences in my life that really shaped my understanding of
being considerate towards others in the loud bass realm.

The first happened when I was about 18 years old (16 years ago).  I had put
3 12-inch Realistic subwoofers in the hatchback of my 1979 Mercury Capri.  I
was in my driveway playing something very bass heavy for an extended period
of time.  I thought it was cool that I could go into my house and hear the
dishes rattle in the cupboards (my mom didn't complain, so I figured "What's
the big deal"?).  So did the friend that was with me.  Anyway, after
listening to this for at least a good half hour a neighbor of mine, whom I
had never met, walked into my driveway and up to me and cornered me inside
my car.  He was PISSED!  He said some vulgarities and made some threats and
told me that he lived 3 houses away and could hear my bass louder than
anything else he had ever heard from the privacy of his own home.  To be
honest, he scared the crap out of me; he was a lot older and a lot bigger
than I was.  Of course, I turned my stereo down, but the funny thing is,
that if would have come over and politely asked me to turn my stereo down
because it was disturbing him, I would have done so immediately.  That's
just the kind of person I am.  Point is, that right or wrong, what he did
made an impact on me because it showed me the level of anger that can build
up under that specific set of circumstances.  I never played my stereo that
loud again in my driveway.  Quite frankly, at that age and level of life
experience, I had no idea that it would be that offensive to someone else -
much less 3 houses away!  Who knows, if he hadn't had come on that strong in
the first place, it may have not delivered the message quite as effectively.
Who knows.

The second time was when I was visiting a friend of mine in Spokane, WA
about 4-5 years ago.  He had an old Toyota extended cab pickup truck with 2
12-inch subs in the back that was so loud that when you tried to talk all
that would come out of your mouth was gurgled vibrations.  It was, in my
opinion, WAY too loud!!  Ouch.  Anyway, he lived in a very large
conglomerate of apartment buildings that had roads with speed bumps that
intertwined throughout the complex.  There was probably at least 3 dozen
2-story buildings with at least 50 apartment buildings in each one.  He
would slowly drive around the complex, taking the longest route to his
apartment, listening to rap music at the FULL volume level.  I couldn't
believe his obvious lack of respect for everyone else in the complex (at 30
years old or so he couldn't use the age card any more).  I told him to turn
it down several times because I was absolutely embarassed to be in the truck
with him.  The thing is, he was a large and mean enough person that if
someone would have confronted him like my neighbour did to me, he would have
kicked their a.s.  So I'm sure there's many people that would have LIKED to
have complained to him, but they didn't just because of his appearance.

Just thought I'd share.  Take it the way you will.

Tony