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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / July 2006Subwoofer Boxes (box vs fiberglass)
As far as SQ goes is there a difference in a wooden box say built to 1.2 ft^2 opposed to a fiberglass enclosure also built to ~1.3 ft^2? (both sealed) Any tips for making a fiberglass enclosure as good or closer to as good as the wooden box? (thicker walls, poly filling, subwoofer aiming?) With a fiberglass enclosure, I guess it would be easier to aim the woofers in any direction. Does this make a difference? i've heard the term stereo bass before but I don't know how much weight that carries atm. Fiberglass sub enclosures are for posers that want their systems looking pretty rather then sounding good. You can always use poly fill on a wood box to shape it and smoothen it. Stereo bass huh? That's funny. I guess you need and left and right woofer to get stereo bass or maybe you just need to crank up some stereo mc's to get stereo bass. I have quadraphonic bass , you know dat quad city knock. >As far as SQ goes is there a difference in a wooden box say built to 1.2 >ft^2 opposed to a fiberglass enclosure also built to ~1.3 ft^2? (both [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >in any direction. Does this make a difference? i've heard the term stereo >bass before but I don't know how much weight that carries atm. You didn't end up answering any of my questions. Why does fiberglass have to be for posers? Why can't fiberglass be for guys who doesn't want two 1.2 ft^2 sitting in the middle of my trunk when i can make one that fits in the sidewell nicely? Go have fun with your "quadraphonic bass"... yea i'm talking about the one "dat quad city knocks" but if you're gonna post a reply at least do it with a slight hint of intelligence. > Fiberglass sub enclosures are for posers that want their systems looking > pretty rather then sounding good. You can always use poly fill on a wood [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>in any direction. Does this make a difference? i've heard the term stereo >>bass before but I don't know how much weight that carries atm. If you want to fiberglass then do just that, what are you looking for approval? A slight hint of intelligence? Aren't you the one that was asking about stereo bass? >You didn't end up answering any of my questions. Why does fiberglass have >to be for posers? Why can't fiberglass be for guys who doesn't want two 1.2 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >"dat quad city knocks" but if you're gonna post a reply at least do it with >a slight hint of intelligence. 1) I mentioned stereo bass because I've heard it somewhere and I even did it with skepticism. And I quote "i've heard the term stereo bass before but I don't know how much weight that carries atm" 2) I'm not looking for approval, I'm looking to build a great sounding SQ competing car. A fiberglass enclosure would fit me better in terms of space in the trunk but if a wooden box makes the SQ better, I'll gladly do that instead My question is perfectly legitimate and I have no idea why you find it so humuours and "stupid" > If you want to fiberglass then do just that, what are you looking for > approval? A slight hint of intelligence? Aren't you the one that was [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>with >>a slight hint of intelligence. If you go thick enough with fiberglass the sq will be fine. It will cost you alot more then a wood box and it's a shitload of work. Make sure that you use "Long Strand Fiberglass" 3/4 to 1" thinkness will do the trick. Oh and use a slow hardener to help avoid air bubbles in your molds. >1) I mentioned stereo bass because I've heard it somewhere and I even did >it with skepticism. And I quote "i've heard the term stereo bass before but [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>>with >>>a slight hint of intelligence. Don't worry about Howdy, he's like that to everyone. We just put up with him. ;) (Hey Howdy, time to put away your 4th-of-July-Car, huh?) Anyhoo, as far as SQ there is no difference between wood and fiberglass. Remember, the only purpose of a box is to hold a volume of air and do it by NOT RESONATING as resonance of the enclosure means wasted energy (it takes energy to vibrate an enclosure, energy that would be better turned into SOUND). The ideal enclosure would be made of granite. Fiberglass is superior in ONE respect, however. It is far lighter than wood and therefore it is preferable if you are into performance and wish to make your car lighter. And with the cost of gas these day, WHO ISN'T? MOSFET > If you go thick enough with fiberglass the sq will be fine. It will cost > you [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >>>>with >>>>a slight hint of intelligence. Nah, I put it away after the labour day parade. Did you install your 99 cent components yet? >Don't worry about Howdy, he's like that to everyone. We just put up with >him. ;) (Hey Howdy, time to put away your 4th-of-July-Car, huh?) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >MOSFET > Nah, I put it away after the labour day parade. Did you install your 99 > cent > components yet? Not yet, still waiting for delivery. And it WAS $23 (with shipping)!!!! You have to admit, THIS was a SMOKING deal. I got the tweeters I REALLY WANTED from the beginning AND a pair of JL midbass drivers that EXACTLY match the drivers I currently use up front so I am going to use them as my rear-fill (without tweeters, of course). So my rear-fill will be timber-matched to my fronts. Here is my AWESOME deal: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270002877050&ru=http://search .ebay.com:80/270002877050_W0QQbsZSearchQQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypag eZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfclZ3QQfposZ98292QQfromZR10QQfrppZ50QQfsclZ1QQfsclZ1QQfso oZ1QQfsopZ1QQfssZ0QQfstypeZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsacatZQ2d1QQsacurZ0QQsadisZ200QQsa rgnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsaslopZ1QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZunknownQQsorefinesearchZ1QQfviZ1 I already have a guy who is going to buy my Kenwood's (that I currently use as rear-fill) for $25. So I am going to MAKE MONEY on this entire deal. Not to mention the fact that someone may be interested in buying a single MB Quart PTD 25 tweeter. Ebay RULES!!!!!! MOSFET Hopefully they work. >> Nah, I put it away after the labour day parade. Did you install your 99 >> cent [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >MOSFET > Not yet, still waiting for delivery. And it WAS $23 (with shipping)!!!! > You have to admit, THIS was a SMOKING deal. I got the tweeters I REALLY [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > MOSFET Now isnt it hit and miss with ebay when buying used audio equiptment? How often does this stuff crap out on you? > Now isnt it hit and miss with ebay when buying used audio equiptment? How > often does this stuff crap out on you? So far, I have been pretty lucky. It's important to check out the seller. Make sure his rating is high and has few neg. feedback. I have bought a couple of things I do regret, but that is FAR outweighed by the great deals I have got (I bought two brand new $250 a piece MTX subwoofers for $80 for the pair, this has been my best deal to date) . So far, so good.... I have also bought some amps on Ebay I have been very happy with. MOSFET This far I ended up with about 20 broken amps from ebay. Thanks for the help guys! Howdy, learn to have an open mind :P Now to clarify on stereo bass and my findings... yes i did some research. A) stupid me, should have known from the beginning. bass that low cannot be located by a human ear unless it has distortion. so stereo bass just means you can hear distortion from two subwoofers. however, believe it or not, many people believe in it. http://www.google.ca/search?q=stereo+bass&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firef ox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official 19 million, six hundred thousand to be exact. > This far I ended up with about 20 broken amps from ebay. |
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