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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / July 2006Kenwood KRC-x858 problem
Ive enjoyed this unit for about 5 yrs now, and all of a sudden, the LED readouts on the screen which show me virtually everything about my unit, ie, what station Im watching or clock time, all the presets, all the menu choices including balance, ie, EVERYTHING, is just missing.. The screen went totally black. And yet, the unit is still functioning.. The presets are still set, and even though I dont remember that they are set to, and cant tell by looking any more, theyre all there. The fuse is fine, and hitting the 'reset' button only managed to reset everything, but not the black screen! Just try and selecting 15 presets without being able to see what station youre setting! So, has anybody seen this problem before, or have any idea whats going on with it? Am I going to have to get a new unit? I run it with a Kenwood Excellon 4x75w amp, and til now, its all been working great. Thanks for any help.. You need to replace the ribbon cable. It's a well known problem with motorized kenwood flip face head units. I think a new cable is about $12 >Ive enjoyed this unit for about 5 yrs now, and all of a sudden, the LED >readouts on the screen which show me virtually everything about my [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Thanks for any help.. Captain, Thank you SO MUCH!!!! I never thought Id find an answer.. What a pain that the owners manual is so 'weak' on problem solving stuff.. So, anyway, Im much better at dealing with my M3's aftermarket Blower system than I am with my stereo. Can you possibly tell me where I can find more information about this 'ribbon cable', where I may find it, where it goes, and how I go about replacing it? I can remove the headunit from the dash using the Kenwood suppled 'prong' thingies market L and R, but as for the 'ribbon cable' Im at a loss. Help?? thanks again. > You need to replace the ribbon cable. It's a well known problem with motorized > kenwood flip face head units. I think a new cable is about $12 [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > >Thanks for any help.. The ribbon cable on most kenwoods unclips. This cable runs between the faceplate connector and the mainboard of the head unit. You will have to remove and take the head unit apart to replace it. I just checked www.pacparts.com and they have the cable in stock. But before you buy the cable check to make sure that the cable just didn't come lose out the connector. I found a couple on ebay, one is just the cable and the other has a replacement socket. Ebay item # 110005635539 and 110005635537 >Captain, > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> > >> >Thanks for any help.. Cap, How can I thank you enough.. This is the first time Ive ever used this group, and already it looks like youve given me a fix that I can persue. Tomorrow, Ill pull out the headunit , bring it inside, get the part number off the cable like it says on the ebay site for one of the part numbers you quoted: "If you remove the top cover, then remove the tape/cd deck you will find the socket where this ribbon plugs into. This is where kenwood print the part number" Once I have the partnumber from the ribbon, if it looks in tact and not fixable by massaging it somehow, it says that I can get the partnumber off of it , and then I guess I should order it from Ebay or from the site you listed.. But first I guess I do have to get the specific pn off my current ribbon cable.. Hope its printed on it like it says it should be. If I can fix it this way, Ill be ecstatic.... :) thanks again ... > The ribbon cable on most kenwoods unclips. This cable runs between the > faceplate connector and the mainboard of the head unit. You will have to [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >> > > >> >Thanks for any help.. Cap, Just found this.. it should help, no? http://www.bipster.zapto.org/Fun_Stuff/How-To/KDC-MP8017/Page1.htm > Cap, > [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > >> > > > >> >Thanks for any help.. That should be of great help, nice step by step info. I think that pacparts listed a number for that cable also. To be honest with you, I would spend the extra few bucks and buy the cable that has the socket, not only because it will save you some unsoldering and soldering, mostly because it is an older unit and those sockets can get weak and lose connection as well. >Cap, > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] >> > >> > >> > >> >Thanks for any help.. Cap, Im going out now to get the Head Unit and try and find the partnumber of its ribbon cable. Id like to try and get the part that requires NO Soldering. My soldering skills are not worth talking about, so if theres a cable, as I thought I read, that has a plug at each end, and therefore, no soldering would be required, I would prefer this.. Did I understand it correctly, or is it not true that a solderless solution exists? > That should be of great help, nice step by step info. I think that pacparts > listed a number for that cable also. To be honest with you, I would spend the [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > >> > >> > > >> > >> >Thanks for any help.. Not a problem, good luck with it. >Cap, > [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] >> >> > >> >> >Thanks for any help.. Hey Cap, I was able to remove enough stuff, helped somewhat by that article link I posted on another model, to get the part number of the ribbon cable.. its J84-0106-02, which I read is the same part as J84-0106-12, which IS a part listed in one of the ebay websites. The problem is, even though I can access and unplug the end of the ribbon cable on the main circuit board, I am unable to access the other end, hidden somehow behind the black mask of the rotating Excelon unit's face plate. I think the ones that had no black mask were easier to access, cause I cant get to the back of this one at all.. The article said something about kenwood using double sided tape which you have to pull apart, but without knowing if and where exactly it is, Im not going to risk prying something apart that will likely break. So, I guess either I find an exact procedure for the KRC-x858 kenwood exelon head unit, or a local repair place who can do it on site, or unfortunately Ill probably have to scrap it and buy a new one that they guarantee will fit the existing harness via the rear connector which of course is already hooked up to the car and ready to plug in. what a bummer. > Not a problem, good luck with it. > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > >> >> > > >> >> >Thanks for any help.. If you don't see any small screws, then you'll have to pry it open. If you are at the point of thinking that you may have to scap it, then you have nothing to lose. I would give it a try. >Hey Cap, > [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Thanks for any help.. Hi Cap, The article I posted the link to that talked about the dbl sided tape that needed to be undone it access the faceplate end of the ribbon cable... Well, I dont believe that applies to my excelon unit because my faceplate has a black 'mask+' on the back side.. when you turn the igntion on and off, it rotates in place, and when you pull out the faceplate which is designed to be taken with you, you can see what remains is a panel which holds the other end of the ribbon cable, ie, the end I couldnt locate!!! So, I ordered a cable and a Service Manual, which hopefully will tell me all I need to do to finish this repair. I found a kenwood auth. srvc center a few miles from me, but, for the 75 bucks minimum they would charge me, even though I could have it back the same day, Im going to try it myself first.. Doesnt look to hard so long as I have access to the back side I referred to when it rotates. thanks for your pointers along the way. > If you don't see any small screws, then you'll have to pry it open. If you are > at the point of thinking that you may have to scap it, then you have nothing [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Thanks for any help.. Hi Cap, I just received my ribbon cable from EastCoast parts, part number J84-0106-12. My problem is I didnt realize the contact block behind the faceplate was soldered onto that cable. I thought Id be able to just remove the old contact blocks's screws and slip fit the new ribbon behind it.. But no... Im not great at soldering, but even worse at desoldering, so I think it best if I could order the contact block and then eitehr solder it or have it soldered into my new ribbon cable.. Thing is, I do not know the part number for the contact block.. The old ribbon cable had its number written right on it; the contact block does not.. Any idea where I could find its number and where to order it? I checked ebay and there is one vendor who offers the two together, but his prices are ridiculous.. ie, about 33 US bucks for the two together; I got the ribbon cable for just 12 bucks from Eastcoast; the ebay guy sells the cable alone for 18 bucks. If I hadnt already bought the cable by itself, I wouldnt mind paying the 33 bucks for the two together, but now since I have the cable, Id like to just find the block by itself.. If someone had the part number it would make it alot easier. Paul > Hi Cap, > [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >Thanks for any help.. Cap, Found the socket number: E58-0903-05 RECTANGULAR RECEPTACLE Paul > Hey Cap, > [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Thanks for any help.. |
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