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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / December 2006Speakers
Okay so I jsut got some new 6.5s and a head unit for my 1991 Honda Accord. Everything sounds great except the back speakers. They sound alot thinner and have very little bass. I'm guessing this is because they're operating basically off free air (the magnets and back of speakers are exposed in trunk)? Well anyways I was wondering if there was anyhting thing I could do to add a little more bass. Possibly seal them off with a silicone of some sort or get locktite nuts to have them tied down. Because when I bought the car the back so called "speaker boxes" had nothing holding them down, so maybe there is not enough air pressure. Anyways, I'm just looking for ideas, give a shout! > Okay so I jsut got some new 6.5s and a head unit for my 1991 Honda > Accord. Everything sounds great except the back speakers. They sound [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > boxes" had nothing holding them down, so maybe there is not enough air > pressure. Anyways, I'm just looking for ideas, give a shout! Try this. Fade to the rear speakers with something that has a little bass to it. then balance from left to right. If you have better bass when all the way right or left your speaker may be out of phase. On that year Honda, the Red and the Blue speaker wires are positive Alright thanks bra. Yea, I put fluff all around the metal to reduce metallic sounds and also all the foam had dried out on the speak boxes, so I refoamed them and now theres a huge difference already. Tomorrow I'm going to the store to buy some nuts so I can really fasten the boxes down for maximum performance. Also I believe they were out of phase, Thanks alot bra. > > Okay so I jsut got some new 6.5s and a head unit for my 1991 Honda > > Accord. Everything sounds great except the back speakers. They sound [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > right or left your speaker may be out of phase. > On that year Honda, the Red and the Blue speaker wires are positive On Dec 21, 7:32 pm, "the_lower_class_brat" <the_lower_class_b...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Tomorrow I'm going to the store to buy some nuts... *snicker* > Thanks alot bra. Yer welcome, panty. (Sorry, fruit was hanging too low to resist.) -dan yes, this happened to me one time. My rear speakers were out of phase and were not getting any bass at all with the balance in the center. Since then, I figured out that I had the speaker wire connected wrong and now they pound like mad. ALSO MAKE SURE that the rear channels and the front channels are in phase too. What i mean by that is make sure you have all the positive channels coming from your head unit to the positive inlets of your speakers, because if you have a both rear positive wires (coming out of the head unit) connected to both negative speaker leads then they will produce bass but will be out of sync with the front speakers (unfortunately i learned the hard way). One person told me that a speaker will not work if I have the positive cable connected to the negative lead and the negative cable to the positive lead. NOT TRUE. It will work but not well, so even if the speaker makes sound doesn't really mean its wired correctly. Also, you may want to put new wires in for your rear speakers. If you want zero distortion, I say go with 12 gauge wires (i prefer sound king) with gold plated crimps and gold plated connections. Also, you want to make absolutely certain that all your crimps and connections and very very tight in order to get all the sound quality coming from the head unit. Believe it makes a HUGE difference. The thicker the wire the lower the resistance and the lower the distortion... bigger wires provide clearer highs, deeper bass, and overall better sound quality. > > Okay so I jsut got some new 6.5s and a head unit for my 1991 Honda > > Accord. Everything sounds great except the back speakers. They sound [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > right or left your speaker may be out of phase. > On that year Honda, the Red and the Blue speaker wires are positive and i forget you may want to get speaker baffles which you can get from crutchfield or somewhere else on the web, which are made to bring out the bass and to aid in bass response timing. > yes, this happened to me one time. My rear speakers were out of phase > and were not getting any bass at all with the balance in the center. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > right or left your speaker may be out of phase. > > On that year Honda, the Red and the Blue speaker wires are positive Well I don't plan on keeping the car that long, so I'll just keep the stock wire, sounds good enough to my ears as is. Also I plan to put a sub in this month. My freind says he'll sell me his alpine amp for 20 dollars. Does anyone know a decent 10" inch sub I could pick up for 50-70 dollars? I don't listen to rap, but I do like feeling the kick drum and bass, therfor I don't need anything AMAZING. Im thinking about picking up a blaupunkt one from ebay, to go along with my blaupunkt speakers, and since they go for only 32 dollars, I don't think I could go wrong. > and i forget you may want to get speaker baffles which you can get from > crutchfield or somewhere else on the web, which are made to bring out [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > > right or left your speaker may be out of phase. > > > On that year Honda, the Red and the Blue speaker wires are positive Nevermind I take that back, haha. I'm just being lazy, I don't have the slightest clue how to rewire all the speaker wire, without tearing up the dashboard. > and i forget you may want to get speaker baffles which you can get from > crutchfield or somewhere else on the web, which are made to bring out [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > > right or left your speaker may be out of phase. > > > On that year Honda, the Red and the Blue speaker wires are positive The hardest thing about replacing the speaker wire in my car was taking off the front door panels... I have a Chevy Cavalier 2 door coupe and they are pretty easy to deal with when it comes to running wires throughout the car. I can't say the same for taking off the engine starter though... Anyways, before I replaced the wire I put gold plated crimps and gold plated heads on my speaker connections and I was surprised on how much difference it makes. The sound king wires made a big difference too... overall it created a solid sound in my opinion (the way its posed to sound like). But if you're not an audiophile and all you like is bass then an amp and sub would be just fine. I know a lot of people who don't want to bother with the stock wires or inside speakers and all they get is an amp and sub. Me, I'm just the opposite, no subs but really high quality speakers inside. I might think about getting a sub sometime, but for now I'm happy with what I have. And for your 10" inch subs... if you don't have an account on ebay, get one! Because you will find the biggest deals there other than your friends giving you things for a cheap price... for instance... check this out http://cgi.ebay.com/1400-Watt-Pair-10-Inch-Sub-2-New-AA-BASS10-Subwoofer-NR_W0QQ itemZ110071988741QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3291QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem or just type 10" inch subwoofer in the ebay search and you'll find tons of items for a cheap price, but remember to look at the seller's ratings before you do anything > Nevermind I take that back, haha. I'm just being lazy, I don't have the > slightest clue how to rewire all the speaker wire, without tearing up [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > > > right or left your speaker may be out of phase. > > > > On that year Honda, the Red and the Blue speaker wires are positive yeah the seller "thedeepdiscount" looks pretty good according to their ratings... another good company on ebay is indoaudio... they sell all the bran names for cheap prices... take a look or you can buy subwoofers at retail price and lose 200 dollars, your choice :) > Okay so I jsut got some new 6.5s and a head unit for my 1991 Honda > Accord. Everything sounds great except the back speakers. They sound [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > boxes" had nothing holding them down, so maybe there is not enough air > pressure. Anyways, I'm just looking for ideas, give a shout! Someone already suggested checking the phase... the other imporant consideration is that you want the front of the speaker as well-separated from the back of the speaker as possible. The problem is, the sound waves from the back of the cone can travel from around to the front, out of phase, and cancel out the sound from the front of the speaker. Since the lower the frequency, the less directional sound becomes, the effect gets more pronounced the lower the notes go. Any kind of gap in the mounting will allow enough leakage to cause erious cancellation, so sealing around the speaker frame will help a lot. Unfortuantely, the thin cardboard most rear car decks are constructed of do little to block the back-wave, so you're at a disadvantage there. Replacing the cardboard with something more solid is ideal, but probably not very practical. Putting a box around the back of the speaker is probably easier. The problem with a small sealed box is that most of these kinds of speakers are designed to run "free-air" (without a sealed, sized enclosure behind them), so if you build boxes, they'd need to be relatively roomy... |
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