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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Car Audio / July 2007

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nnote - 09 Jul 2007 04:49 GMT
The other day my crossover blew it's 2amp fuse. First time in over a
year of owning my system. I put a new fuse in, but it blew the next
night.  So I tried another fuse but now, even with the radio off, they
are blowing the second I put them in the crossover.  The crossover is
powered 12v from some auxillary wires that run to my amp. My amp is
cabled to the battery, and the crossover power comes from where those
cables are ran to my amp.  The only odd thing I noticed was that the
inline fuse to my amp had a crack in it's glass, So I've removed it, but
have yet not had a chance to get another fuse, but yes the amp had power.
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Christopher Ott - 09 Jul 2007 18:43 GMT
> The other day my crossover blew it's 2amp fuse. First time in over a year
> of owning my system. I put a new fuse in, but it blew the next night.  So
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> crack in it's glass, So I've removed it, but have yet not had a chance to
> get another fuse, but yes the amp had power.

Not sure if there's a question in there, but I'll put in my thoughts anyway.
Assuming that nothing changed in the wiring (ie: there's no possibility that
the batt and gnd are swapped) your fuse symptoms are pointing to an internal
failure within the crossover. Most likely a shorting diode or transistor in
the power supply. The fact it came on slowly and then got worse quickly also
points to damaged silicon.

I suspect the cause of the failure could be that the crossover is being
underpowered. I doubt the aux out of the amp is up to providing the current
needed to power your crossover directly. This power starvation (loading down
the aux line) Makes the switching power supply inside the crossover work
harder. This could also damage the aux output in the amp. It's best to use
it to switch a relay only.

The crack in the glass portion of your fuse shouldn't be a problem. Low
voltage DC fuses aren't generally vacuum sealed and will operate the same
regardless of the presence of the glass. This is not always the case with AC
fuses.

Chris
nnote - 10 Jul 2007 03:04 GMT
Thanks for the reply.
It's not really an auxillary out at the amp, just that the cable running
to power the amp was also split to the crossover. Another thing is that
it's all in my trunk, and it's been 115 all week... In phoenix... I was
thinking it could be heat related damage.
Nick

>> The other day my crossover blew it's 2amp fuse. First time in over a year
>> of owning my system. I put a new fuse in, but it blew the next night.  So
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>
> Chris

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Christopher Ott - 10 Jul 2007 20:13 GMT
The temp shouldn't cause it to blow fuses. Consumer rated silicon is good
from -20c to +70c (158F) and most electronics intended for use in a car are
industrial temp rated, -40c to +85c (185F) or automotive rated, -40c to
+125c (257F). I grew up in Chandler, and remember the heat. It was bad, but
shouldn't cause a failure like this all by itself. I make industrial
controllers for heavy equipment, and they have to handle similar conditions
when the control box is in direct sunlight. I've never seen a failure from
ambient temperature alone.

Have you tried unplugging all the outputs on the crossover, so the only
connections are the +batt and gnd? If it still blows fuses with no load
connected, it's time for the repair shop...

Chris

> Thanks for the reply.
> It's not really an auxillary out at the amp, just that the cable running
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>>
>> Chris
nnote - 11 Jul 2007 01:18 GMT
That's a good idea, I'd like to find any reason to not have to spend the
$$$ (145) to replace it. Thanks!
Nick

> The temp shouldn't cause it to blow fuses. Consumer rated silicon is good
> from -20c to +70c (158F) and most electronics intended for use in a car are
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> connections are the +batt and gnd? If it still blows fuses with no load
> connected, it's time for the repair shop...
nnote - 11 Jul 2007 22:06 GMT
Yup, disconnected all and it's still blows the fuse. I guess it's cooked
:( . Time to hit ebay...
Nick

> That's a good idea, I'd like to find any reason to not have to spend the
> $$$ (145) to replace it. Thanks!
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>> only connections are the +batt and gnd? If it still blows fuses with
>> no load connected, it's time for the repair shop...

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nnote - 11 Jul 2007 23:33 GMT
Well, picked up a new crossover. Different brand but since everything
was already wired, the swap was easy, only concern is that the remote
bass control would be compatible, and it is. Only it works in reverse!
Not quite happy with the sound of the bass output, but just gonna have
to spend some time tunning it i guess.
Nick

> Yup, disconnected all and it's still blows the fuse. I guess it's cooked
> :( . Time to hit ebay...
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>>> only connections are the +batt and gnd? If it still blows fuses with
>>> no load connected, it's time for the repair shop...

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Christopher Ott - 12 Jul 2007 00:05 GMT
Well, that was easy!

Chris

> Well, picked up a new crossover. Different brand but since everything was
> already wired, the swap was easy, only concern is that the remote bass
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>>>> connections are the +batt and gnd? If it still blows fuses with no load
>>>> connected, it's time for the repair shop...
 
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