>> I pass a bicycle rider with a full lane as I generally do... but how
>> does he repay that? He decides to gutter pass... guess what? the light
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> Funny, this is exactly the kind of well-justified post that you've
> flamed me for making. Welcome to the club.
> No. I never discounted that it happens. It's that some people, such as
> yourself think that every bicycle rider does it and you have proposed
> endangering bicyclists for the sake of doing so.
In California it is as common as not letting someone change lanes if he
signals. I wish nobody behaved that way, but I have to assume they all
will, or I'll regret not assuming so.
>> When I line up for a right turn I try to get right up against the curb
>> for just that reason.
> And as I recall you intentionally brush pass bicyclists too.
If a bicyclist squeezes past me where he knows I'll have to either be
stuck behind him at bicycle speed for a block or brush-pass him, I'll
brush-pass him. Rightful bicyclists don't put drivers in that position.
Brent - 13 Jul 2009 05:12 GMT
>> No. I never discounted that it happens. It's that some people, such as
>> yourself think that every bicycle rider does it and you have proposed
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> stuck behind him at bicycle speed for a block or brush-pass him, I'll
> brush-pass him. Rightful bicyclists don't put drivers in that position.
I've never defended gutter passing, sidewalk riding, red light running
or anything of the sort in the last dozen years, so there is no way I
was ever critical of you for that.
I ride to the letter of the law, but that doesn't stop drivers from
brush passing me just to get to a stop light first when they could have
changed lanes EASILY on a four lane road to boot. And then when I
don't gutter pass them, they start crawling along when the light turns
green.
The vast majority are just morons, but a goodly percent are doing
it intentionally. They will literally crawl at 5mph. When I hit the air
horn they get angry. They won't drive off either. They want me to
pass so they can take another swipe at me I figure.
There was one guy who passed me marginally with his full size dodge
van. Not bad enough to be of note but annoying. I pull up behind him at
a red signal The light turns green, he doesn't accelerate. Light turns
red again. Now he's first in the queue. Light turns green, again he
doesn't go. All left lane traffic is gone so I go into the left lane and
pass him. Guess what? He finds his 'go' pedal. He tries to crush me
between his van and the curb. I escape by slamming the brakes,
dismounting and going up the curb and into the grass. He then starts
yelling at me.
This is how some of the driving public treats legal road going
bicyclists.