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What does a viatologist study?

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Carl Rogers - 03 Nov 2009 15:48 GMT
If you occasionally research these newsgroups, then you've probably
come across the term 'viatologist'.  What does this term mean?

A viatologist is one who scientifically studies roads.  Data are
collected from field research and through the scientific method, then
interpreted and shared publicly to advance the understanding of roads
worldwide.  Viatologists can study broad areas like highway numbering
standards, or focus specifically on pavement types or certain
intersections worthy of interest.

For more information on the study of viatology, including its
etymology and foreign translations, please refer to http://wwtl.info/#viatology.html
.

By your scientific and independent study of roads, viatology may one
day become a legitimate study in scholastic and science foundations.

Cheers,

Carl Rogers
"Environment first, transportology second"
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Reality Check - 03 Nov 2009 16:42 GMT
| If you occasionally research these newsgroups,
| then you've probably come across the term
| 'viatologist'.  What does this term mean? <bitch slap>

It means one who studies equine excrement, because viatologists are
full of horseshit.

RC
elmer - 03 Nov 2009 23:37 GMT
> | If you occasionally research these newsgroups,
> | then you've probably come across the term
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>
> RC

nno no.... it's vitamins!
Eva Cassidy - 04 Nov 2009 00:35 GMT
What does a viatologist study??

A way to annoy readers in the usenet groups he posts his spew in.

Eva
spamtrap1888 - 03 Nov 2009 17:52 GMT
> By your scientific and independent study of roads, viatology may one
> day become a legitimate study in scholastic and science foundations.

I don't know about viatrollogy, but at Northwestern University, the
scientific and independent study of roads goes back to 1954 if not
1936, when their Traffic Institute was founded:

http://transportation.northwestern.edu/about/
Don Freeman - 03 Nov 2009 18:04 GMT
>> By your scientific and independent study of roads, viatology may one
>> day become a legitimate study in scholastic and science foundations.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> http://transportation.northwestern.edu/about/

Are you saying that CalRog is wrong?  Oh No! The Horror! I am so
disillusioned, what will all of us millions of fans do now?  Our hero
has feet of clay. I guess that goes with his head of concrete though.

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Scott in SoCal - 04 Nov 2009 03:48 GMT
Last time on rec.autos.driving, Don Freeman <freemand@cosmoslair.com>
said:

>> I don't know about viatrollogy, but at Northwestern University, the
>> scientific and independent study of roads goes back to 1954 if not
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Are you saying that CalRog is wrong?  Oh No! The Horror!

Yep, the OP had better get ready for a vicious personal attack from
SuperTroll Cal-El or one of his sock puppets. He should be prepared
for some combination of the following:

* his sexual orientation will be questioned
* his living arrangements will be mischaracterized as being in his
mother's basement
* he will be encouraged to get out and meet more women
* his (presumed) religious beliefs will be ridiculed
* his (presumed) inability to create a competitive road-related web
site will be mocked
* he will be called a "redneck"
* he will be subject to an armchair psychological "analysis" which
will cast aspersions upon his parentage and upbringing
* personal details of his life will be ridiculed, such as his
employment, his income, and/or his place of residence
* his IP address will be banned from accessing Cal-El's web site
* he will be seated in a comfy chair and tickled with a feather

Trust me, you do NOT want to be on Cal-El's sh.t list! The OP should
quickly recant before The Wrath of Carl is felt upon his person!!
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700
If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to impact.

Richard - 04 Nov 2009 19:53 GMT
> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Don Freeman <freem...@cosmoslair.com>
> said:
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> --http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700
> If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to impact.

Props to this post
Don Freeman - 04 Nov 2009 20:09 GMT
>> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Don Freeman <freem...@cosmoslair.com>
>> said:
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>
> Props to this post

See, this is why we respond to CalRog's posts.

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Steve Firth - 04 Nov 2009 20:40 GMT
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700
> If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to impact.

I'd love to but it aint there.
Scott in SoCal - 09 Nov 2009 00:07 GMT
Last time on rec.autos.driving, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)
said:

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700
>> If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to impact.
>
>I'd love to but it aint there.

Sorry 'bout that. It's been moved to here:

http://blip.tv/file/399265

There's a funny story behind this video. It was made for a guy named
Carl TAYLOR, who used to troll this group back in the day. Taylor
claimed that his wife died in a car crash when a 25-year-old "Yuppie
man-child" driving an estimated 85 MPH crashed into his wife's car. He
claims this set him on a mission to inform the world of the dangers of
speeding, and how simply going slower would allow you to avoid
collisions.

Anyway, when Carl ROGERS saw that little blurb in my .signature, he
assumed it was about him (because the entire universe revolves around
Carl Rogers, doncha know) and he proceeded to lecture me about the
alleged "errors" in my facts:

Message-ID: <1166388310.582007.233450@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700
>> If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to the impact.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>effectively spread a misrepresentation of two individuals for any
>reason other than logic.

It was at that moment that I reailzed what a complete twit Carl Rogers
is.
Steve Firth - 09 Nov 2009 07:13 GMT
> There's a funny story behind this video. It was made for a guy named
> Carl TAYLOR, who used to troll this group back in the day. Taylor
> claimed that his wife died in a car crash when a 25-year-old "Yuppie
> man-child" driving an estimated 85 MPH crashed into his wife's car.

How odd, several UK driving and transport groups were trolled by "Bob
Peffers" a mad Scotsman who posted reams of guff about his departed
wife. Opinion was divided as to whether she was imaginary or if she had
committed suicide by car to get away from him. He made near identical
claims to those of Taylor.
Scott in SoCal - 09 Nov 2009 15:32 GMT
Last time on rec.autos.driving, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)
said:

>How odd, several UK driving and transport groups were trolled by "Bob
>Peffers" a mad Scotsman who posted reams of guff about his departed
>wife. Opinion was divided as to whether she was imaginary or if she had
>committed suicide by car to get away from him. He made near identical
>claims to those of Taylor.

That's very interesting indeed!

Here's a typical Carl Taylor (or, as we like to call him, Carl
TROLLER) thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/browse_thread/thread/dbca05b792
7f8f9b/ed8f3f5b69a7bc27?hl=en&q=carl+taylor+group:rec.autos.driving#ed8f3f5b69a7
bc27


or

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yg3wawm

Do you notice any similarities in style to your Mad Scotsman?
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http://blip.tv/file/399265
If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to impact.

Steve Firth - 09 Nov 2009 16:13 GMT
> Last time on rec.autos.driving, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)
> said:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Do you notice any similarities in style to your Mad Scotsman?

Several, Peffers had an obsession with "speeding" despite the fact that
the injury caused to his wife was done by a drunk driver. At least that
was what he said some of the time. His wife died of many things over and
over. He claimed she died because of an accident involving a drunk
driver. He claimed that she lived for 20 years or 30 years after the
accident. He claimed that she lived happily, he claimed that she lived
miserably in constant agony. He claimed that she was injured in two
accidents with drunk drivers while he was driving, he claimed to have an
unblemished driving record. He claimed (repeatedly) that the issue was
not that the driver was drunk but that the driver had exceeded the speed
limit. He had no evidence that the driver exceeded the speed limit.

Perhaps the most nauseating aspect was his mawkish poetry that he
foisted on the innocent at every possible opportunity. I'll spare you
that, but you can find it, in all its twee, tweedy Scottish horror if
you search for "Frae Auld Bob Peffers". But if you do search for it take
anti-emetics.

<http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.gps/msg/656f0bd582a3846a>

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yd92ku9

<http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.disabled.caregivers/msg/56
0b5f8d41d2dc63>

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yjebswb

<http://groups.google.co.uk/group/soc.culture.scottish/msg/9c78b677d252b
13f>

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yjxp8n8
H.B. Elkins - 10 Nov 2009 00:49 GMT
>It was at that moment that I reailzed what a complete twit Carl Rogers
>is.

You misspelled "twat."

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Patrick Scheible - 03 Nov 2009 18:12 GMT
> > By your scientific and independent study of roads, viatology may one
> > day become a legitimate study in scholastic and science foundations.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> http://transportation.northwestern.edu/about/

Yes, but I bet it's studied like an engineering discipline: how figure
out what their capacity would be, how to make them safer, how to build
them less expensively to last a long time.  Not just pretend they're
some sort of natural phenomenon to take pictures of and leave it at
that.

-- Patrick
Matthew Russotto - 04 Nov 2009 16:49 GMT
>Yes, but I bet it's studied like an engineering discipline: how figure
>out what their capacity would be, how to make them safer, how to build
>them less expensively to last a long time.  Not just pretend they're
>some sort of natural phenomenon to take pictures of and leave it at
>that.

That would be roadgeeking.  But Carl doesn't even make it to that
level.
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Steve Firth - 04 Nov 2009 20:38 GMT
> >Yes, but I bet it's studied like an engineering discipline: how figure
> >out what their capacity would be, how to make them safer, how to build
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> That would be roadgeeking.  But Carl doesn't even make it to that
> level.

His (lack of) talent is quite astonishing. He had links on his webshite
to roads that I know well, I don't want to dive into his cesspit again
or add to his hit count, so I'll not give a blow by blow description.
However I regularly drive through Switzerland to Central Italy. I do so
several times a year, all seasons, all conditions using mountain passes,
tunnels, autoroutes, autostrade, national and local raods.

The routes, all of them, are stunning. Many of them are quite simply
engineering miracles. Such as this, the road to Chamonix:

http://tinyurl.com/yfxve8f

The Ponte del Salinello in Abruzzo:

http://tinyurl.com/yfb2rp3

and wandering further afield, the Milau viaduct:

http://tinyurl.com/yjf6fyr

There is the stunning Stelvio Pass:

http://tinyurl.com/yk9fdsu

In fact wherever one looks from Basel to Bari and from Bordeaux to
Trieste there are roads of exceptional design, breathtaking vistas and
intriguing constructional techniques.

And Carl "Fuckwit" Rogers pokes up some lousy photos that a blind monkey
could improve on, and intones appaling schoolboy French and Italian in a
Deputy Dawg accent over videos of 10% of f.ck all.
Patrick Scheible - 04 Nov 2009 22:50 GMT
> > >Yes, but I bet it's studied like an engineering discipline: how figure
> > >out what their capacity would be, how to make them safer, how to build
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> Trieste there are roads of exceptional design, breathtaking vistas and
> intriguing constructional techniques.

Thanks for posting the links.  (Why does it seem beautiful road
structures are the rule there and the exception here?  Okay, we have
the Golden Gate Bridge, and the 1930s Highway 1 bridges, but most of
them are boring and utilitarian.)

-- Patrick
Brent Jonas - 04 Nov 2009 23:52 GMT
> > In article <w9zaaz31nre....@zipcon.net>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> could improve on, and intones appaling schoolboy French and Italian in a
> Deputy Dawg accent over videos of 10% of f.ck all.

Wow, that picture of the Milau viaduct is nothing short of stunning.
Thanks for posting that link!
BrianW - 05 Nov 2009 09:12 GMT
> > In article <w9zaaz31nre....@zipcon.net>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> The routes, all of them, are stunning. Many of them are quite simply
> engineering miracles. Such as this, the road to Chamonix:

You could also have posted links to some of the spectacular and
beautiful bridges in the UK, such as
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tinsley_Viaduct_and_Blackburn_Towers_21-04-06.jpg

I wonder what Mr Todgers would make of *that*?
Steve Firth - 05 Nov 2009 23:34 GMT
> You could also have posted links to some of the spectacular and beautiful
> bridges in the UK, such as
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tinsley_Viaduct_and_Blackburn_Towers_21-
> 04-06.jpg
>
> I wonder what Mr Todgers would make of *that*?

Umm, the Tinsley viaduct is an evil piece of crap. I'm assuming that
your irony is going right over my head.
Ian Dalziel - 07 Nov 2009 10:42 GMT
>> You could also have posted links to some of the spectacular and beautiful
>> bridges in the UK, such as
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Umm, the Tinsley viaduct is an evil piece of crap. I'm assuming that
>your irony is going right over my head.

And the towers came down this year.
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BrianW - 07 Nov 2009 14:02 GMT
> > You could also have posted links to some of the spectacular and beautiful
> > bridges in the UK, such as
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Umm, the Tinsley viaduct is an evil piece of crap. I'm assuming that
> your irony is going right over my head.

Indeed!  We do have some fine structures in this country.
Regrettably, Tinsley viaduct ain't one of them.  Although I must admit
it grew on me (*) during the three years I lived in Sheffield.  I was
particularly sad to see the cooling towers demolished.

* rather like a skin cancer
Derek Geldard - 07 Nov 2009 20:43 GMT
>> You could also have posted links to some of the spectacular and beautiful
>> bridges in the UK, such as
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Umm, the Tinsley viaduct is an evil piece of crap. I'm assuming that
>your irony is going right over my head.

It occupies the very Nadir of British civil engineering (although it
is by no means alone there) & in fact FWIR I feel sure it was not
essential to build a 2 level viaduct at that point to begin with,
there being plenty of alternatives.

The prime motive for building it would appear to be monumentalism.

However, before we go into paroxysms of admiration for the Milau
viaduct did anybody else notice the accessory steel lattice towers
being built halfway between the original spans ?

Derek
NM - 03 Nov 2009 19:45 GMT
> > By your scientific and independent study of roads, viatology may one
> > day become a legitimate study in scholastic and science foundations.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> http://transportation.northwestern.edu/about/

If one wears the title of '-ologist' as in geologist for example this
implies the person has completed a recognised educational course in
geology, AFAIAA up until the exams are passed they are geology
students. Which body did the poster graduate from and what other
universities offer courses in 'viat'.
Dave C. - 03 Nov 2009 10:29 GMT
> > http://transportation.northwestern.edu/about/
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> students. Which body did the poster graduate from and what other
> universities offer courses in 'viat'.

They all do.  Viatology is a cult of mental masturbation.  All
universities have students majoring in that.  Unfortunately, some of
them discover usenet.  -Dave
David Nebenzahl - 03 Nov 2009 18:56 GMT
On 11/3/2009 7:48 AM Carl Rogers spake thus:

> If you occasionally research these newsgroups, then you've probably
> come across the term 'viatologist'.  What does this term mean?

The correct term, of course, is viatrollogy, which is the concerted
effort (not study) to increase traffic on a pathetic excuse for a web site.

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Steve Firth - 03 Nov 2009 20:45 GMT
> If you occasionally research these newsgroups, then you've probably
> come across the term 'viatologist'.  What does this term mean?

Someone who studies their own colon, by inserting their head as far up
their backside as possible.
Don Freeman - 03 Nov 2009 21:05 GMT
>> If you occasionally research these newsgroups, then you've probably
>> come across the term 'viatologist'.  What does this term mean?
>
> Someone who studies their own colon, by inserting their head as far up
> their backside as possible.

And whose only view of the world is through his navel.

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Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 19 Nov 2009 17:12 GMT
Our patience?

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