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Carl Rogers - 03 Nov 2009 15:48 GMT If you occasionally research these newsgroups, then you've probably come across the term 'viatologist'. What does this term mean?
A viatologist is one who scientifically studies roads. Data are collected from field research and through the scientific method, then interpreted and shared publicly to advance the understanding of roads worldwide. Viatologists can study broad areas like highway numbering standards, or focus specifically on pavement types or certain intersections worthy of interest.
For more information on the study of viatology, including its etymology and foreign translations, please refer to http://wwtl.info/#viatology.html .
By your scientific and independent study of roads, viatology may one day become a legitimate study in scholastic and science foundations.
Cheers,
Carl Rogers "Environment first, transportology second" ******** Worldwide Transportation Library (WWTL): http://wwtl.info http://m.wwtl.info [Mobile] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Complete coverage of international roads and railways. Since 2000, we have offered several photographs, videos and Virtual 360 captures -- to each viatologist & transportologist. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ********
Reality Check - 03 Nov 2009 16:42 GMT | If you occasionally research these newsgroups, | then you've probably come across the term | 'viatologist'. What does this term mean? <bitch slap> It means one who studies equine excrement, because viatologists are full of horseshit.
RC
elmer - 03 Nov 2009 23:37 GMT > | If you occasionally research these newsgroups, > | then you've probably come across the term [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > RC nno no.... it's vitamins!
Eva Cassidy - 04 Nov 2009 00:35 GMT What does a viatologist study??
A way to annoy readers in the usenet groups he posts his spew in.
Eva
spamtrap1888 - 03 Nov 2009 17:52 GMT > By your scientific and independent study of roads, viatology may one > day become a legitimate study in scholastic and science foundations. I don't know about viatrollogy, but at Northwestern University, the scientific and independent study of roads goes back to 1954 if not 1936, when their Traffic Institute was founded:
http://transportation.northwestern.edu/about/
Don Freeman - 03 Nov 2009 18:04 GMT >> By your scientific and independent study of roads, viatology may one >> day become a legitimate study in scholastic and science foundations. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://transportation.northwestern.edu/about/ Are you saying that CalRog is wrong? Oh No! The Horror! I am so disillusioned, what will all of us millions of fans do now? Our hero has feet of clay. I guess that goes with his head of concrete though.
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Scott in SoCal - 04 Nov 2009 03:48 GMT Last time on rec.autos.driving, Don Freeman <freemand@cosmoslair.com> said:
>> I don't know about viatrollogy, but at Northwestern University, the >> scientific and independent study of roads goes back to 1954 if not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Are you saying that CalRog is wrong? Oh No! The Horror! Yep, the OP had better get ready for a vicious personal attack from SuperTroll Cal-El or one of his sock puppets. He should be prepared for some combination of the following:
* his sexual orientation will be questioned * his living arrangements will be mischaracterized as being in his mother's basement * he will be encouraged to get out and meet more women * his (presumed) religious beliefs will be ridiculed * his (presumed) inability to create a competitive road-related web site will be mocked * he will be called a "redneck" * he will be subject to an armchair psychological "analysis" which will cast aspersions upon his parentage and upbringing * personal details of his life will be ridiculed, such as his employment, his income, and/or his place of residence * his IP address will be banned from accessing Cal-El's web site * he will be seated in a comfy chair and tickled with a feather
Trust me, you do NOT want to be on Cal-El's sh.t list! The OP should quickly recant before The Wrath of Carl is felt upon his person!!
 Signature http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700 If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to impact.
Richard - 04 Nov 2009 19:53 GMT > Last time on rec.autos.driving, Don Freeman <freem...@cosmoslair.com> > said: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > --http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700 > If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to impact. Props to this post
Don Freeman - 04 Nov 2009 20:09 GMT >> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Don Freeman <freem...@cosmoslair.com> >> said: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Props to this post See, this is why we respond to CalRog's posts.
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Steve Firth - 04 Nov 2009 20:40 GMT > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700 > If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to impact. I'd love to but it aint there.
Scott in SoCal - 09 Nov 2009 00:07 GMT Last time on rec.autos.driving, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) said:
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700 >> If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to impact. > >I'd love to but it aint there. Sorry 'bout that. It's been moved to here:
http://blip.tv/file/399265
There's a funny story behind this video. It was made for a guy named Carl TAYLOR, who used to troll this group back in the day. Taylor claimed that his wife died in a car crash when a 25-year-old "Yuppie man-child" driving an estimated 85 MPH crashed into his wife's car. He claims this set him on a mission to inform the world of the dangers of speeding, and how simply going slower would allow you to avoid collisions.
Anyway, when Carl ROGERS saw that little blurb in my .signature, he assumed it was about him (because the entire universe revolves around Carl Rogers, doncha know) and he proceeded to lecture me about the alleged "errors" in my facts:
Message-ID: <1166388310.582007.233450@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700 >> If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to the impact. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >effectively spread a misrepresentation of two individuals for any >reason other than logic. It was at that moment that I reailzed what a complete twit Carl Rogers is.
Steve Firth - 09 Nov 2009 07:13 GMT > There's a funny story behind this video. It was made for a guy named > Carl TAYLOR, who used to troll this group back in the day. Taylor > claimed that his wife died in a car crash when a 25-year-old "Yuppie > man-child" driving an estimated 85 MPH crashed into his wife's car. How odd, several UK driving and transport groups were trolled by "Bob Peffers" a mad Scotsman who posted reams of guff about his departed wife. Opinion was divided as to whether she was imaginary or if she had committed suicide by car to get away from him. He made near identical claims to those of Taylor.
Scott in SoCal - 09 Nov 2009 15:32 GMT Last time on rec.autos.driving, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) said:
>How odd, several UK driving and transport groups were trolled by "Bob >Peffers" a mad Scotsman who posted reams of guff about his departed >wife. Opinion was divided as to whether she was imaginary or if she had >committed suicide by car to get away from him. He made near identical >claims to those of Taylor. That's very interesting indeed!
Here's a typical Carl Taylor (or, as we like to call him, Carl TROLLER) thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/browse_thread/thread/dbca05b792 7f8f9b/ed8f3f5b69a7bc27?hl=en&q=carl+taylor+group:rec.autos.driving#ed8f3f5b69a7 bc27
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yg3wawm
Do you notice any similarities in style to your Mad Scotsman?
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Steve Firth - 09 Nov 2009 16:13 GMT > Last time on rec.autos.driving, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) > said: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Do you notice any similarities in style to your Mad Scotsman? Several, Peffers had an obsession with "speeding" despite the fact that the injury caused to his wife was done by a drunk driver. At least that was what he said some of the time. His wife died of many things over and over. He claimed she died because of an accident involving a drunk driver. He claimed that she lived for 20 years or 30 years after the accident. He claimed that she lived happily, he claimed that she lived miserably in constant agony. He claimed that she was injured in two accidents with drunk drivers while he was driving, he claimed to have an unblemished driving record. He claimed (repeatedly) that the issue was not that the driver was drunk but that the driver had exceeded the speed limit. He had no evidence that the driver exceeded the speed limit.
Perhaps the most nauseating aspect was his mawkish poetry that he foisted on the innocent at every possible opportunity. I'll spare you that, but you can find it, in all its twee, tweedy Scottish horror if you search for "Frae Auld Bob Peffers". But if you do search for it take anti-emetics.
<http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.gps/msg/656f0bd582a3846a>
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yd92ku9
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http://preview.tinyurl.com/yjebswb
<http://groups.google.co.uk/group/soc.culture.scottish/msg/9c78b677d252b 13f>
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yjxp8n8
H.B. Elkins - 10 Nov 2009 00:49 GMT >It was at that moment that I reailzed what a complete twit Carl Rogers >is. You misspelled "twat."
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Patrick Scheible - 03 Nov 2009 18:12 GMT > > By your scientific and independent study of roads, viatology may one > > day become a legitimate study in scholastic and science foundations. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://transportation.northwestern.edu/about/ Yes, but I bet it's studied like an engineering discipline: how figure out what their capacity would be, how to make them safer, how to build them less expensively to last a long time. Not just pretend they're some sort of natural phenomenon to take pictures of and leave it at that.
-- Patrick
Matthew Russotto - 04 Nov 2009 16:49 GMT >Yes, but I bet it's studied like an engineering discipline: how figure >out what their capacity would be, how to make them safer, how to build >them less expensively to last a long time. Not just pretend they're >some sort of natural phenomenon to take pictures of and leave it at >that. That would be roadgeeking. But Carl doesn't even make it to that level.
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Steve Firth - 04 Nov 2009 20:38 GMT > >Yes, but I bet it's studied like an engineering discipline: how figure > >out what their capacity would be, how to make them safer, how to build [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > That would be roadgeeking. But Carl doesn't even make it to that > level. His (lack of) talent is quite astonishing. He had links on his webshite to roads that I know well, I don't want to dive into his cesspit again or add to his hit count, so I'll not give a blow by blow description. However I regularly drive through Switzerland to Central Italy. I do so several times a year, all seasons, all conditions using mountain passes, tunnels, autoroutes, autostrade, national and local raods.
The routes, all of them, are stunning. Many of them are quite simply engineering miracles. Such as this, the road to Chamonix:
http://tinyurl.com/yfxve8f
The Ponte del Salinello in Abruzzo:
http://tinyurl.com/yfb2rp3
and wandering further afield, the Milau viaduct:
http://tinyurl.com/yjf6fyr
There is the stunning Stelvio Pass:
http://tinyurl.com/yk9fdsu
In fact wherever one looks from Basel to Bari and from Bordeaux to Trieste there are roads of exceptional design, breathtaking vistas and intriguing constructional techniques.
And Carl "Fuckwit" Rogers pokes up some lousy photos that a blind monkey could improve on, and intones appaling schoolboy French and Italian in a Deputy Dawg accent over videos of 10% of f.ck all.
Patrick Scheible - 04 Nov 2009 22:50 GMT > > >Yes, but I bet it's studied like an engineering discipline: how figure > > >out what their capacity would be, how to make them safer, how to build [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Trieste there are roads of exceptional design, breathtaking vistas and > intriguing constructional techniques. Thanks for posting the links. (Why does it seem beautiful road structures are the rule there and the exception here? Okay, we have the Golden Gate Bridge, and the 1930s Highway 1 bridges, but most of them are boring and utilitarian.)
-- Patrick
Brent Jonas - 04 Nov 2009 23:52 GMT > > In article <w9zaaz31nre....@zipcon.net>, > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > could improve on, and intones appaling schoolboy French and Italian in a > Deputy Dawg accent over videos of 10% of f.ck all. Wow, that picture of the Milau viaduct is nothing short of stunning. Thanks for posting that link!
BrianW - 05 Nov 2009 09:12 GMT > > In article <w9zaaz31nre....@zipcon.net>, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > The routes, all of them, are stunning. Many of them are quite simply > engineering miracles. Such as this, the road to Chamonix: You could also have posted links to some of the spectacular and beautiful bridges in the UK, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tinsley_Viaduct_and_Blackburn_Towers_21-04-06.jpg
I wonder what Mr Todgers would make of *that*?
Steve Firth - 05 Nov 2009 23:34 GMT > You could also have posted links to some of the spectacular and beautiful > bridges in the UK, such as > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tinsley_Viaduct_and_Blackburn_Towers_21- > 04-06.jpg > > I wonder what Mr Todgers would make of *that*? Umm, the Tinsley viaduct is an evil piece of crap. I'm assuming that your irony is going right over my head.
Ian Dalziel - 07 Nov 2009 10:42 GMT >> You could also have posted links to some of the spectacular and beautiful >> bridges in the UK, such as [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Umm, the Tinsley viaduct is an evil piece of crap. I'm assuming that >your irony is going right over my head. And the towers came down this year.
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BrianW - 07 Nov 2009 14:02 GMT > > You could also have posted links to some of the spectacular and beautiful > > bridges in the UK, such as [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Umm, the Tinsley viaduct is an evil piece of crap. I'm assuming that > your irony is going right over my head. Indeed! We do have some fine structures in this country. Regrettably, Tinsley viaduct ain't one of them. Although I must admit it grew on me (*) during the three years I lived in Sheffield. I was particularly sad to see the cooling towers demolished.
* rather like a skin cancer
Derek Geldard - 07 Nov 2009 20:43 GMT >> You could also have posted links to some of the spectacular and beautiful >> bridges in the UK, such as [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Umm, the Tinsley viaduct is an evil piece of crap. I'm assuming that >your irony is going right over my head. It occupies the very Nadir of British civil engineering (although it is by no means alone there) & in fact FWIR I feel sure it was not essential to build a 2 level viaduct at that point to begin with, there being plenty of alternatives.
The prime motive for building it would appear to be monumentalism.
However, before we go into paroxysms of admiration for the Milau viaduct did anybody else notice the accessory steel lattice towers being built halfway between the original spans ?
Derek
NM - 03 Nov 2009 19:45 GMT > > By your scientific and independent study of roads, viatology may one > > day become a legitimate study in scholastic and science foundations. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://transportation.northwestern.edu/about/ If one wears the title of '-ologist' as in geologist for example this implies the person has completed a recognised educational course in geology, AFAIAA up until the exams are passed they are geology students. Which body did the poster graduate from and what other universities offer courses in 'viat'.
Dave C. - 03 Nov 2009 10:29 GMT > > http://transportation.northwestern.edu/about/ > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > students. Which body did the poster graduate from and what other > universities offer courses in 'viat'. They all do. Viatology is a cult of mental masturbation. All universities have students majoring in that. Unfortunately, some of them discover usenet. -Dave
David Nebenzahl - 03 Nov 2009 18:56 GMT On 11/3/2009 7:48 AM Carl Rogers spake thus:
> If you occasionally research these newsgroups, then you've probably > come across the term 'viatologist'. What does this term mean? The correct term, of course, is viatrollogy, which is the concerted effort (not study) to increase traffic on a pathetic excuse for a web site.
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Steve Firth - 03 Nov 2009 20:45 GMT > If you occasionally research these newsgroups, then you've probably > come across the term 'viatologist'. What does this term mean? Someone who studies their own colon, by inserting their head as far up their backside as possible.
Don Freeman - 03 Nov 2009 21:05 GMT >> If you occasionally research these newsgroups, then you've probably >> come across the term 'viatologist'. What does this term mean? > > Someone who studies their own colon, by inserting their head as far up > their backside as possible. And whose only view of the world is through his navel.
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 19 Nov 2009 17:12 GMT Our patience?
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