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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / March 2005YAY - Man gets life sentence after THIRD DUI
Maybe the criminal coddling of these deadly drunk drivers is finally coming to an end. http://wdam.com/Global/story.asp?S=2983771&nav=1Pw1WgZF Third DUI Gets Man Life Sentence Feb 22, 2005, 03:13 PM MST A Hattiesburg MS man has been sentenced to life in prison after his third drunk driving conviction. Referring to the recent sentencing of Mark Allen Debrow, 37, District Attorney Jon Mark Weathers said he had pledged to punish habitual offenders. "In our judgment, Debrow represented a significant risk to the public," Weathers said. One of Debrow's prior convictions was in the 1990s, when he was convicted of aggravated assault after hitting someone while driving drunk, records show. Victims' advocate June Renfrow said all victims want is justice. "When a person receives a sentence and it's not just a slap on the wrist, then often that's the only way victims or their families can move forward with their lives," Renfrow said. > Maybe the criminal coddling of these deadly drunk drivers is finally > coming to an end. Would you suggest life for driving a mile over the limit?  Signature"How do you know you're God?" "Simple. When I pray to Him, I find I am talking to myself." -+"The Ruling Class", Peter O'Toole > > Maybe the criminal coddling of these deadly drunk drivers is finally > > coming to an end. > > > Would you suggest life for driving a mile over the limit? Hey stupid. Are you comparing 61 in a 60 zone to drunk driving? > > > Maybe the criminal coddling of these deadly drunk drivers is > finally [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hey stupid. Are you comparing 61 in a 60 zone to drunk driving? Of course not. I'm making fun of you comparing 61 in a 60 to driving drunk. Don't you understand that? Signature"How do you know you're God?" "Simple. When I pray to Him, I find I am talking to myself." -+"The Ruling Class", Peter O'Toole > Maybe the criminal coddling of these deadly drunk drivers is finally > coming to an end. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > wrist, then often that's the only way victims or their families can > move forward with their lives," Renfrow said. If only this were the rule instead of the exception. Maybe habitual drunk drivers would start to get the message. >> Maybe the criminal coddling of these deadly drunk drivers is finally >> coming to an end. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > If only this were the rule instead of the exception. Maybe habitual drunk > drivers would start to get the message. I seriously doubt it... once you get drunk you don't think clearly. It "might" stop a small number of drivers but most will still drive drunk. > > If only this were the rule instead of the exception. Maybe habitual drunk > > drivers would start to get the message. > > I seriously doubt it... once you get drunk you don't think clearly. It > "might" stop a small number of drivers but most will still drive drunk. Hey stupid. That's why we need to lock them up forever. >If only this were the rule instead of the exception. Maybe habitual drunk >drivers would start to get the message. You'll have to catch us first. Did this person hit anyone or anything, or was simply stopped for DUI? Remember - murderers don't even get life sentences. What are MS' rules concerning DUI? I would think they would have jail time for a person convicted of DUI a 3rd time, but certainly doubt that it amounts to life behind bars. Anyway, this conviction will be overturned. > Did this person hit anyone or anything, or was simply stopped for DUI? > Remember - murderers don't even get life sentences. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Anyway, this conviction will be overturned. You're a legal ignoramus. I doubt very much if the conviction is overturned though the sentence might be altered. >You're a legal ignoramus. I doubt very much if the conviction is >overturned though the sentence might be altered. Why do you think that is not a club? -- Lady Chatterly "Hi Lady C, I think you fit in well here on Usenet. I recently asked someone in our group if he was a multiple identity of another poster and he started swearing at me. I guess he thought that made him more real. See you around." -- stevejdufour > Did this person hit anyone or anything, or was simply stopped for DUI? > Remember - murderers don't even get life sentences. But cokeheads do. And DUIs are worse than them. > Did this person hit anyone or anything, or was simply stopped for DUI? > Remember - murderers don't even get life sentences. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Anyway, this conviction will be overturned. Based on what insight, Oh Great Carnack? Based on the simple fact the punishment does not fit the crime. > Maybe the criminal coddling of these deadly drunk drivers is finally > coming to an end. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > A Hattiesburg MS man has been sentenced to life in prison after his > third drunk driving conviction. Unconstitutional. Unusual and unjust imprisonment. Here's rhe run down of MS DUI law third offense law. * Fine $2,000-$5,000 * One (1) To Five (5) Years Incarceration At The State Penitentiary * License Suspension For Five (5) Years * Automobile Seizure And Sale With Proceeds To The State * Felony Conviction - Loss Of Civil Rights - Loss Of Careers I do not see where it says the judge has the option to sentence a driver to life imprisonment. In the event of a death or disfigurement: * Felony Conviction - Loss Of Civil Rights - Loss Of Careers * Imprisonment In State Penitentiary For A Period Of Time of Not Less Than Five (5) Years And Not To Exceed Twenty Five (25) Years. The judge haas overstepped his authority in the sentencing. The ruling will be appealed and the judge will be slapped for his mistake. Another site shows the following results for a person 2 twice convicted in the previous 5 years with a BAC of 0.10 or higher: If convicted you will be fined a minimum of $2,000 up to a maximum of $5,000 and sentenced to a minimum of 1 year up to a maximum of 5 years of imprisonment. Your vehicle will be seized if it was the vehicle you were using at the time of the incident. You will be required to undergo a diagnostic assessment and you may be reqired to complete an alcohol or drug abuse treatment program. Your driver's license will be suspended for 3 years. Your vehicle must be eqipped with an ignition interlock system for 5 months after your driver's license is reinstated. Again, the judge is clearly wrong regardless of his personal beliefs. MS law clearly states that previous convictions can only include those within a 5 year period. Not over a person's life time. So if a person had been convicted ten years ago, the judge may not apply that as a previous conviction in this current situation. We do not need this kind of kangaroo courtroom antics from any judge. He should be removed from the bench. But of course, when it comes to driving, the idiot who posted the article would like to see anyone hanged for any driving offense. Wonder how much whining he'd do when he gets hanged? > > Maybe the criminal coddling of these deadly drunk drivers is finally > > coming to an end. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Unconstitutional. > Unusual and unjust imprisonment. Drop dead, you criminal coddler. >Maybe the criminal coddling of these deadly drunk drivers is finally >coming to an end. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >wrist, then often that's the only way victims or their families can >move forward with their lives," Renfrow said. I wonder if any of his prior convictions required him to go to an alcoholism program? As much as I want these folks off the roads, I would rather have this person be a productive member in our society than a burden who rots in jail. --------------- Alex > I wonder if any of his prior convictions required him to go to an alcoholism > program? As much as I want these folks off the roads, I would rather have > this person be a productive member in our society than a burden who rots > in jail. Screw putting these killers in rehab. That's criminal coddling. Around 3/9/2005 7:57 PM, Aunt Judy (Pride of Diarrhea) <http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote: >>I wonder if any of his prior convictions required him to go to an alcoholism >>program? As much as I want these folks off the roads, I would rather have >>this person be a productive member in our society than a burden who rots >>in jail. > > Screw putting these killers in rehab. That's criminal coddling. If I'm not mistaken, you're speaking from /extensive/ personal experience. Right, Judy? Signature~/Garth "I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." - Edith Sitwell (Mail pgp@v6stang.com for secure contact information) Traditionally, liberals favor treatment over punishment, whereas conservatives favor longer sentences. In an ideal world, these cases would be dealt with on an individual basis. But, the Justice Dept cannot do that. So many folks (like cokeheads) who could get help and go back into the real world die in jail, and on the flipside, other cokeheads are in and out of halfway homes, violating parole, and so on for the rest of their lives. 3 Strikes and your out for DUI? I think that is a bit extreme. Besides, the average life sentence is actually 40 years and the average prison stay for a convicted murderer is around 16 years (look that up!). Perhaps having a strong 5-10 year prison sentence, no more driving ever, and have the convict take Anabuse for the rest of their life would be better. On a side note, I read about a Maryland woman that finally lost her license permanently after her 8th or 9th DUI. There's a great system for you. Then what's putting him in jail? That's criminal coddling. And your and my tax money will be going to keep him housed in jail. Instead, send everyone to the electric chair. DUI - the chair. Speeding - the chair. Parking ticket? The chair. Overdue library book - again, you're getting the chair. Late for work? Strap yourself in the chair. > Then what's putting him in jail? That's criminal coddling. And your > and my tax money will be going to keep him housed in jail. Instead, > send everyone to the electric chair. DUI - the chair. Speeding - the > chair. Parking ticket? The chair. Overdue library book - again, > you're getting the chair. Late for work? Strap yourself in the chair. We got 2 million people in prison right now. Half of them for BS drug crimes. So stop making jokes about how unreasonable it is to lock up drunk drivers. Lessee; the majority disagrees with you, and you think *they* are unreasonable? LOL. I think that's a bit harsh. I'm not saying you should deal lightly with drunk driving, though. In Florida on the third conviction of DUI you permanently lose your driver's license- for life. You also spend time in jail. I think that's good enough. Maybe it will be a wakeup call to an alcoholic to try and take control. A life sentence just gaurantees that the person will be feeding off the government forever in a cell. > I think that's a bit harsh. I'm not saying you should deal lightly with >drunk driving, though. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >control. A life sentence just gaurantees that the person will be feeding >off the government forever in a cell. It also, of course, guarantees that that person will not do what got him there in the first place. So we feed and house him until he dies. Wouldn't you say that's better than him continuing to endanger the lives of others? SignatureBill Funk Change "g" to "a" > I think that's a bit harsh. I'm not saying you should deal lightly with > drunk driving, though. > > In Florida on the third conviction of DUI you permanently lose your > driver's license- for life. So what they keep right on driving and you know it. Or they move to another state. The answer is lock em up forever. Stop being a criminal coddler. >> I think that's a bit harsh. I'm not saying you should deal lightly >with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >another state. The answer is lock em up forever. Stop being a criminal >coddler. This place says Teddy Kennedy's ex wife Joan had 4 DUI arrests, as of 2000 http://bulltown.com/dailywebthing/newspage/core/?seek=n110700 . > >So what they keep right on driving and you know it. Or they move to > >another state. The answer is lock em up forever. Stop being a criminal [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 2000 > http://bulltown.com/dailywebthing/newspage/core/?seek=n110700 Dick cheney has two convictions for drunk driving. Both belong in prison. >Dick cheney has two convictions for drunk driving. Both belong in >prison. You have a conviction for speeding. In a school zone, no less. You belong in prison. SignatureBill Funk Change "g" to "a" What about Teddy? He murdered his pregnant mistress, and never got so much as a slap on the wrist. |
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