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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / March 2005Ever see an LLB doing UNDER the speed limit?
As long as they do at or even above the speed limit, a law-abiding-citizen has no reason to say the LLB is slowing them down. I see them all the time. Most often it's a speed-governed 18-wheeler, but there are also plenty oif clueless f.ck sloth 4-wheelers LLBing, too. Scott en Aztlán wrote: > I see them all the time. Most often it's a speed-governed 18-wheeler, > but there are also plenty oif clueless f.ck sloth 4-wheelers LLBing, > too. So what happened to your story that "EVERYBODY SPEEDS"? >Scott en Aztlán wrote: >> I see them all the time. Most often it's a speed-governed 18-wheeler, >> but there are also plenty oif clueless f.ck sloth 4-wheelers LLBing, >> too. > >So what happened to your story that "EVERYBODY SPEEDS"? It never existed (except in your disease-ridden mind). > Scott en Aztlán wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > So what happened to your story that "EVERYBODY SPEEDS"? Those who don't seem to prefer the passing lane for some reason. However, IME everyone *does* speed at least on the freeway, it is a very rare mouthbreather who doesn't, although there are still plenty of LLBers. nate  Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel >Those who don't seem to prefer the passing lane for some reason. >However, IME everyone *does* speed at least on the freeway, it is a very >rare mouthbreather who doesn't, although there are still plenty of LLBers. > >nate My beef is that the same a.sholes who LLB at the speed limit on the highway, do 20 MPH over on the side streets where all the kiddies are playing. Case in point, the troll you responded to. I know I will regret asking this, but just what is a LLB? Tim Exit 4, NH 101 > I know I will regret asking this, but just what is a LLB? > > Tim > Exit 4, NH 101 LLB = "Left lane blocker"--i.e., someone who is blocking the faster/passing traffic in the left lane. Some go as far as to insist that even illegal speeds well over the posted limit should be accommodated, and so a driver doing the legal speed limit in the left lane is still considered an "LLB" by those individuals. > Some go as far as to insist that even illegal speeds well over the posted > limit should be accommodated, and so a driver doing the legal speed limit in > the left lane is still considered an "LLB" by those individuals. You certainly aren't hesitant to post your views, but you evidently are unable to post a response when people call you on them. > > Some go as far as to insist that even illegal speeds well over the posted > > limit should be accommodated, and so a driver doing the legal speed limit in > > the left lane is still considered an "LLB" by those individuals. > > You certainly aren't hesitant to post your views, but you evidently are > unable to post a response when people call you on them. Regardless of what popular opinion might be in this newsgroup: in the state I live in, there is a combination of the Basic Speed Law and Prima Facie speed limits referenced in the vehicle code. I also don't find those to be unreasonable to any extent. Nor do I find the recommended following distances to be unreasonable either, even though those following distances are not actually written in the vehicle code. After all--this is rec.autos.driving, NOT rec.autos.racing. So, I base all my reasoning and points on three fundamental bases: 1) Speed limits are to be obeyed, period, until such time as the speed limits are legally increased. 2) I am not required to break speed laws just because others do. 3) The roads are not racetracks, and my daily drives are not races to the finish line. Based on that--if that means I am passing traffic at 65mph in the left lane (with the posted speed limit being 65mph), while the lane(s) to the right are going 60 or below... even if the person behind me wants to do 100+ mph... tough! I'm still going to do 65 mph until a suitable gap is available--a minumum of two headlights in my rearview mirror--before I merge right. In fact, that driver behind me has an obligation to slow down and maintain a safe following distance, since their driving at 100+ mph is basically reckless if a 65mph passing speed is sufficient to pass slower traffic. Alternatively, even if I happen to be speeding (gasp!) at, say, 75mph--as long as I am passing traffic in the left lane, I do not need to speed up or otherwise merge right to accomodate the driver behind me who fails to maintain a safe following distance and elects to charge me at 90mph or more. Not until a safe gap exists where I can actually merge right will I merge right. In other words, I don't need anyone's permission to brake when traffic conditions call for braking, and I'm not required to exceed the speed limit if my driving at the posted limit is a suitable enough speed to pass slower traffic in the right lanes. I also demand that they use a proper following distance as given in the DMV driver handbooks, or I'm forced to double my following distance from the car in front of me to compensate for their unsafe and reckless driving. So part of the reason I don't respond to those who call me out on my views is that if it disregards the speed laws/posted limits--it isn't a valid point to me from the start, and I won't spend the time dealing with someone trying to validate a point that is invalid from the start. Give me a point that starts with legal speeds, then I'll adress that point appropriately. >> > Some go as far as to insist that even illegal speeds well over the > posted [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > 1) Speed limits are to be obeyed, period, until such time as the speed > limits are legally increased. Are you one of those who obeyed the 55 MPH NMSL? > 2) I am not required to break speed laws just because others do. No,but you are required to leave the left lane open for passing. If you won't pass,then you slow and -leave- the passing lane. KRETP. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > 1) Speed limits are to be obeyed, period, until such time as the speed > limits are legally increased. In the real world, most drivers do not obey them. > 2) I am not required to break speed laws just because others do. No one ever said you did, but it's safer for you to drive with the flow of traffic. If traffic is going 75 and you're going 70, there's no problem (as long as you're keeping right except to pass). If traffic is going 75 and you're going 55, then you, not the rest of traffic, are the problem. > 3) The roads are not racetracks, and my daily drives are not races to the > finish line. Nobody said they were, but if people were really racing, we'd see traffic going in excess of 120 mph routinely. That is not the case. Even in areas that are not enforced, you rarely see people going much more than 90 mph. > Based on that--if that means I am passing traffic at 65mph in the left lane > (with the posted speed limit being 65mph), while the lane(s) to the right > are going 60 or below... even if the person behind me wants to do 100+ > mph... tough! That's fine unless you actually have room to move right and you remain in the right most lane unless you're actually passing (an)other vehicle(s). > In fact, that driver behind me has an obligation to slow down Unless you've actually been rear ended on the highway, they have been slowing down. > since their driving at 100+ mph is > basically reckless if a 65mph passing speed is sufficient to pass slower > traffic. It stands to reason that you're exaggerating the speed of faster traffic. Typical traffic speed distribution is within ±8 to ±12 of the median speed of traffic (for 2 standard deviations). That means that less than 5 percent of traffic is going less than 10 mph the median speed and less than 5 percent is going more than 10 mph over the median speed. Therefore, if the median speed is 65 mph, it's highly unlikely you'll encounter a driver going faster than 100 mph. > Alternatively, even if I happen to be speeding (gasp!) at, say, 75mph--as > long as I am passing traffic in the left lane, I do not need to speed up or > otherwise merge right to accomodate the driver behind me who fails to > maintain a safe following distance and elects to charge me at 90mph or more. Again, you're exaggerating the other driver's speed. If you have space to the right, you should move into it to allow faster traffic to pass. I've never encountered those who tailgate me while I'm passing or who use the charging maneuver in order to intimidate me out of the passing lane. This is because I use the passing lane for its intended purpose and don't spend any more time than necessary to complete my passing maneuver. IOW, I spend far more time in the right most lane as compared to any other lane. Perhaps the reason you have problems with drivers tailgating or otherwise engaging in tactics in an effort to get you out of the passing lane is that you're taking too long to complete your passes. A safe driver drives in a manner such that he does not engate in behaviors that impede others on the road. The fact that you're having problems with people tailgating you, and the fact that I do not shows that the problem lies with you. > So part of the reason I don't respond to those who call me out on my views > is that if it disregards the speed laws/posted limits--it isn't a valid > point to me from the start, Unfortunately, it makes you look like a troll when you do that. This is a newsgroup where people have differing opinions. Someone who fails to justify or otherwise defend their views (especially when those views do not match the majority of group participants) loses any credibility they may have had. That doesn't mean that you have to repeat the same thing over and over again, but at least you should explain where you're coming from. > LLB = "Left lane blocker"--i.e., someone who is blocking the faster/passing > traffic in the left lane. > > Some go as far as to insist that even illegal speeds well over the posted > limit should be accommodated, and so a driver doing the legal speed limit in > the left lane is still considered an "LLB" by those individuals. I have to admit, I'm somewhat disappointed. I figured the answer would be pornographic! :) I guess I fall into the LLB category myself. Nothing annoys me more than being tailgated in the left lane when I'm already doing 20 MPH over the speed limit, especially when the right lane is clear, so I tend to drop my speed down. I'm thinking about getting a bumper sticker that says "Passing On The Right Is Just As Illegal As Speeding, So Go For It!" Maybe I'll add "LLB" to my sig file, kind of like the old "Merry Marvel Marching Society" titles, like KOF or QNS :) Tim Exit 4, NH 101 >>LLB = "Left lane blocker"--i.e., someone who is blocking the > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Tim > Exit 4, NH 101 Wow, you're a flaming a.shole. nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel >> LLB = "Left lane blocker"--i.e., someone who is blocking the > faster/passing [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > than being tailgated in the left lane when I'm already doing 20 MPH > over the speed limit, especially when the right lane is clear, If the right lane is clear,then WHY ARENT YOU IN THAT LANE???? You bitch about being tailgated when you are the one at fault. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > I guess I fall into the LLB category myself. Nothing annoys me more than > being tailgated in the left lane when I'm already doing 20 MPH over the > speed limit, especially when the right lane is clear, so I tend to drop my > speed down. One tactic that would help alleviate those tailgating problems is to remain in the right most lane unless you're actually passing other vehicles. > > I guess I fall into the LLB category myself. Nothing annoys me more than > > being tailgated in the left lane when I'm already doing 20 MPH over the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > One tactic that would help alleviate those tailgating problems is to > remain in the right most lane unless you're actually passing other vehicles. If I could go the speed I wanted to in the right most lane, I'd stay there. As the highways I travel most, I-93 and NH 101, are only two lanes for most of the distance I travel them, it can be hard to find a good lane to be in. I guess the good news is that the Salem to Manchester widening of I-93 seems to have jumped its last hurdle, passing the Executive Council last week. Tim Exit 4, NH 101 >>>I guess I fall into the LLB category myself. Nothing annoys me more than >>>being tailgated in the left lane when I'm already doing 20 MPH over the >>>speed limit, especially when the right lane is clear, so I tend to drop >>>my speed down. >>One tactic that would help alleviate those tailgating problems is to >>remain in the right most lane unless you're actually passing other >>vehicles. > If I could go the speed I wanted to in the right most lane, I'd stay there. So would I. Of course, if there's slower traffic ahead of you, you're free to move left to pass (after yielding as appropriate). Once you have finished passing, then you can move back to the right lane. The reason I suggested it was because you mentioned that people would tailgate you even if the right lane was *clear*. That would indicate that you could easily move into it to allow faster traffic to pass you in an orderly fashion. > As the highways I travel most, I-93 and NH 101, are only two lanes for most > of the distance I travel them, it can be hard to find a good lane to be in. I've been on crowded highways (like I-81 and I-66 during congested times). If traffic is not free flowing (i.e., going less than 45 mph), then KRETP (if you don't know what the acronym means, it's Keep Right Except to Pass) becomes irrelevant. If traffic is free flowing, but there isn't enough space in the right lane, I just keep passing traffic to my right. Once there is enough space, I move back to the right lane to allow faster traffic to pass me. By KRETP, faster traffic does not have to weave around slower traffic. They can easily pass everyone else on the left and traffic flow is more orderly and safer as a result. >> I guess I fall into the LLB category myself. Nothing annoys me more than >> being tailgated in the left lane when I'm already doing 20 MPH over the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >One tactic that would help alleviate those tailgating problems is to >remain in the right most lane unless you're actually passing other vehicles. You do that in Mass., and you'll have to slow down to 40 at every intersection, because most drivers use the right lane as acceleration and deceleration lanes. >>One tactic that would help alleviate those tailgating problems is to >>remain in the right most lane unless you're actually passing other vehicles. > You do that in Mass., and you'll have to slow down to 40 at every > intersection, because most drivers use the right lane as acceleration > and deceleration lanes. Which is why you switch over to the left (after checking your mirrors and yielding as appropriate) and move back to the right after you finish passing. There's no reason why one should be restricted to driving in one lane. > I guess I fall into the LLB category myself. Nothing annoys me more than > being tailgated in the left lane when I'm already doing 20 MPH over the > speed limit, especially when the right lane is clear, so I tend to drop my > speed down. I'm thinking about getting a bumper sticker that says "Passing > On The Right Is Just As Illegal As Speeding, So Go For It!" You're mistaken; passing on the right is not illegal. But in CO, LLBing is. > "Passing On The Right Is Just As Illegal As Speeding, So Go For It!" > > You're mistaken; passing on the right is not illegal. But in CO, LLBing > is. I've always thought passing on the right was illegal here in NH and MA on two lane expressways & interstates. I seem to recall it was posted as such in MA for many years. SignatureTim Exit 4, NH 101 >> "Passing On The Right Is Just As Illegal As Speeding, So Go For It!" >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >two lane expressways & interstates. I seem to recall it was posted as such >in MA for many years. Massachusetts law has allowed passing on the right on divided highways since 1966. I do not think any other states except Connecticut and New Jersey restrict passing on the right on divided highways. SignatureJohn Carr (jfc@mit.edu) > Massachusetts law has allowed passing on the right on divided > highways since 1966. Well, I'm not old enough to remember before that. I guess I'm thinking of the old "Keep Right Except To Pass" signs that lined every inch of I-93 back in the 70's. > I do not think any other states except Connecticut and New Jersey > restrict passing on the right on divided highways. So that means, I can sit in the left lane with impunity now. :) SignatureTim Exit 4, NH 101 >> Massachusetts law has allowed passing on the right on divided >> highways since 1966. > >Well, I'm not old enough to remember before that. I guess I'm thinking of >the old "Keep Right Except To Pass" signs that lined every inch of I-93 back >in the 70's. Keep right except to pass and no passing on the right are different laws. Massachusetts has the first and not the second. Connecticut has the second and not the first. New Jersey has both. New York has neither. >> I do not think any other states except Connecticut and New Jersey >> restrict passing on the right on divided highways. > >So that means, I can sit in the left lane with impunity now. :) In most states, only if you are moving at least as fast as the average speed of traffic. See http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html SignatureJohn Carr (jfc@mit.edu) > >So that means, I can sit in the left lane with impunity now. :) > > In most states, only if you are moving at least as fast as > the average speed of traffic. Have no fear, I do my part in that regard... :) SignatureTim Exit 4, NH 101 > > I know I will regret asking this, but just what is a LLB? > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > limit should be accommodated, and so a driver doing the legal speed limit in > the left lane is still considered an "LLB" by those individuals. Being the LLB is illegal in many states, no matter what the speed limit is. SignatureRJ > > > I know I will regret asking this, but just what is a LLB? > > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Being the LLB is illegal in many states, no matter what the speed limit > is. An anti-LLB statute just went into effect in CO. After a period of official warnings, state patrol was recently to begin issuing actual citations. I haven't heard of many being issued though. However, there was a large negative reaction from the segment of the populace that believes they have a right to drive the speed limit in the left lane and shouldn't have to move right as long as they're at the limit. The law was sponsored by a legislator who is a retired state trooper. > An anti-LLB statute just went into effect in CO. After a period of > official warnings, state patrol was recently to begin issuing actual [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > The law was sponsored by a legislator who is a retired state trooper. So, essentially, the State of Colorado passed a law punishing people for not aiding and abetting the commission of a crime? The first court challenge should be fun to watch... SignatureTim Exit 4, NH 101 > > An anti-LLB statute just went into effect in CO. After a period of > > official warnings, state patrol was recently to begin issuing actual [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > aiding and abetting the commission of a crime? The first court challenge > should be fun to watch... Not really. The law designated the left lane on multi-lane highways of 65 mph or greater as a "passing-only." Technically, you could be ticketed for remaining in it after passing even when no one is behind you trying to speed ahead. I agree the challenge will be fun. I interviewed a fellow in Boulder who makes a practice of driving the Boulder Turnpike in the left lane at 55 expressly for the purpose of being a traffic blocker. >>>An anti-LLB statute just went into effect in CO. After a period of >>>official warnings, state patrol was recently to begin issuing [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > who makes a practice of driving the Boulder Turnpike in the left lane > at 55 expressly for the purpose of being a traffic blocker. Heh... either there's two of them or Weiser is becoming even more vocal about his assholishness... nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > I agree the challenge will be fun. I interviewed a fellow in Boulder > who makes a practice of driving the Boulder Turnpike in the left lane > at 55 expressly for the purpose of being a traffic blocker. And he survived the interview? Did you leave your pistol at home that ay? -Dave >> An anti-LLB statute just went into effect in CO. After a period of >> official warnings, state patrol was recently to begin issuing actual [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >aiding and abetting the commission of a crime? The first court challenge >should be fun to watch... Not likely. It'll be very short and end with the phrase "Guilty, next case". SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. >>>An anti-LLB statute just went into effect in CO. After a period of >>>official warnings, state patrol was recently to begin issuing actual [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Not likely. It'll be very short and end with the phrase "Guilty, next case". Just accept it, some people don't care about safety and just haven't gotten over the fact that Joey got picked to be hall monitor instead in second grade. nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > Just accept it, some people don't care about safety and just haven't > gotten over the fact that Joey got picked to be hall monitor instead in > second grade. Yup. And those are the same sh.t-for-brains who believe that unrealistically low speed limits save lives. > However, there was a large negative reaction from the segment of the > populace that believes they have a right to drive the speed limit in > the left lane and shouldn't have to move right as long as they're at > the limit. So in other words, Scott Weiser participated in a letter writing campaign along with his vigilante buddies. No surprise there; he's been doing the same online for years. Signature~/Garth |"I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. ******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant." (pgp@v6stang.com for secure mail info) --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) >> > I know I will regret asking this, but just what is a LLB? >> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Being the LLB is illegal in many states, no matter what the speed > limit is. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/orl- locrage17031705mar17,0,1747743.story?coll=orl-home-headlines A new anti-LLB law SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > LLB = "Left lane blocker"--i.e., someone who is blocking the faster/passing > traffic in the left lane. Or "left lane bandit", same meaning. > Some go as far as to insist that even illegal speeds well over the posted > limit should be accommodated, and so a driver doing the legal speed limit in > the left lane is still considered an "LLB" by those individuals. That is the standard definition, supported by all non-LLBs. "Tim" <spam@spam.spam> wrote >I know I will regret asking this, but just what is a LLB? Left Lane Bandit Floyd >As long as they do at or even above the speed limit, a >law-abiding-citizen has no reason to say the LLB is slowing them down. I'm a psychopathic child-murderer so I do have reason to complain. And the system is just going to keep coddling me. In fact, last year the State Police told me I should speed if I drive in the left lane. SignatureJohn Carr (jfc@mit.edu) > As long as they do at or even above the speed limit, a > law-abiding-citizen has no reason to say the LLB is slowing them down. How f.cking ridiculous. How do you get by in life? Are you this stupid all the time in the real world? I bet you work for the government. If the posted speed is 55, and you're blocking me from going faster, by definition you're slowing me down. > > As long as they do at or even above the speed limit, a > > law-abiding-citizen has no reason to say the LLB is slowing them [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > stupid all the time in the real world? I bet you work for the > government. 'Laura Bush' is some silly troll that posts various rantings and ravings on this board, mostly concerned with the fact that motor vehicles exceed 5 mph and do not have a man with a red flag walking ahead of them. Posts from 'Laura' and Lance Lamboy (or whatever - remember him) can and should be ignored if you wish to keep you cool and not enter bizarro world (I personally think 'Laura' is really the somewhat confusing, and always wrong, John Kaehny of Transportation Alternatives, who apparently has never met a motorist he didn't hate) > 'Laura Bush' is some silly troll that posts various rantings and > ravings on this board, mostly concerned with the fact that motor [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > confusing, and always wrong, John Kaehny of Transportation > Alternatives, who apparently has never met a motorist he didn't hate) I would not even see LB's posts if it were not for those who respond to them. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net On 13 Mar 2005 22:32:42 GMT, Jim Yanik , one of an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters said the following in rec.autos.driving... > I would not even see LB's posts if it were not for those who respond to > them. Easiest way to avoid about 90% of the LB posts and replies is to set your newsreader to ignore posts that are posted to more than a user set number of NG's (given LB's propensity to engage in ECP). It won't remove them all from your reader, but it does help... > I would not even see LB's posts if it were not for those who respond to > them. Sorry, google needs a killfile feature. > > > As long as they do at or even above the speed limit, a > > > law-abiding-citizen has no reason to say the LLB is slowing them [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > confusing, and always wrong, John Kaehny of Transportation > Alternatives, who apparently has never met a motorist he didn't hate) And if everyone would refuse to reply to trolls like him/her, the troll would soon get bored and disappear. I know, I know, I have responded myself. Harry K >And if everyone would refuse to reply to trolls like him/her, the troll >would soon get bored and disappear. I know, I know, I have responded >myself. Even if you hadn't, there is a continuous supply of fresh (and gullible) meat gaining access to USENET each and every day. Even if every one of us "old hands" ignored AJ, there would always be someone new who would stumblr right into his trap. > > As long as they do at or even above the speed limit, a > > law-abiding-citizen has no reason to say the LLB is slowing them [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > If the posted speed is 55, and you're blocking me from going faster, by > definition you're slowing me down. Read my post again, esp the words "law-abiding-citizen". > > If the posted speed is 55, and you're blocking me from going faster, > by > > definition you're slowing me down. > > Read my post again, esp the words "law-abiding-citizen". I read it. It's ridiculous. But I expect no less. So what, retard? 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I remember when i was in prison for beating up a dozen gun loonies and we used to melt down a thousand or so aspirin tablets into a thick goo and then let it harden into a knife shape which we sharpened against the concrete floor. Anybody can make a knife anywhere out of anything. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rush-limbaugh/msg/018c5bbd64dd19ac Hey dood. I've been a US senator since 98! You mean you didn't know that??? http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/2f1dd067aa0af690 I never voted in my life, you lying whore. All elections are rigged. The globalists rigged this one by paying kerry not to attack bush. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/87a31e73cec1db38 GODDAMMIT - STOP SENDING MESSAGES TO MORE THAN FIVE GROUPS Google won't allow more than five. It's not my job to delete excessive group listings but i seem to spend half my life doing that. OBEY THE RULES, YOU BUTTHOLES!!!! http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/c3d2661d3c6734ed I am not paid to delete the excessive newsgroups you clowns are posting to. Obey the rules or GTF out of here!!!! http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/f5c7a53c81f28cdf Tires don't blow out anymore. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/9a619fee7f463fc2 LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH LAURABUSH http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/b9727d351b4be64a There's not a shred of evidence that the jerries murdered anything close to 7 million jooz. Another monstrous lie just like the 9-11 official story. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/3650866dc7ecbadc Bush is dictator and that means he has to take the blame for everything. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/a2d35f67fd7b6003 Has he killed as many people as Laura Bush? http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.flame.niggers/msg/c2ff1fca08982a38 You don't know what you're talking about, dood. AIDS is an american bioweapon developed by americans so that blacks would be esp susceptible to it. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.sport.baseball/msg/cd9d112311697712 She knows it won't matter. Blake is white so the media will insist on a not guilty verdict. :http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/59c74805c56a5747 YOu stupid lying shithead. All bush has accomplished in AFG is to make it the world's leading heroin supplier. And BTW it wasn't a war. It was a massacre against a defenseless nation that never did anything to us. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/29a86842abe0d9d6 She's just damn lucky the press is owned by the GOP and doesn't crucify her for vehicular manslaughter like they've done to ted kennedy for 35 years. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/cac630fd8aec9a63 You're crazy. There will be a draft. Bush is gonna stage another 9-11 type event and then say we have no choice but to go to war against every muslim nation. And democrats will say nothing. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/b4a8ea8427fdf968 I'm saying that bush obviously doesn't want to catch OBL. Not now that the election is over, anyway. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/46a00a246987524f You're crazy, dood. Google is a super rw org and they censor liberals. RW posters here get away with everything while libs have to be choir boys. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/ca35950242741f13 That's why so many legal scholars think republicans should be banned from juries. Anyone who'd vote for a man who lied us into war is too dumb to sit on a jury. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/4dc8560247663014 Wouldn't have mattered if hitty had one. He took his orders from the same organization that roosevelt did and bush does today. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/cd58ee450b438b19 You can't even lie any good. No where in the country are cops issued crown victorias. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780e a958.0410112125.4b572994%40posting.google.com i'm sure jeffrey dahmer also objects to big daddy govt telling him he can't kill people anymore. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1665104637d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=o ff&edition=us&selm=780ea958.0410311919.5f4893f4%40posting.google.com At first i thought the tars had been slashed but no, the tars were fine http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780e a958.0410311926.d89b941%40posting.google.com I hate cell phone drivers but at least this gal had the sense to drive slowly while yakking. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780e a958.0411231910.47c6ceb7%40posting.google.com The issue is the psychopath doing 60 mph OVER THE LIMIT!!!!!!!!. This guy is a murderer and i want him locked up anyway they can do it. Three cheers for the cops. http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=780ea958.0411162236.1a4d23a5%40posting.goog le.com Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5 years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open stretch could be 25, i thought. Turns out the cop was right. No complaints from me then. I should have known the law. : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.autos/msg/b140009050c624a9 "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote... > > > As long as they do at or even above the speed limit, a > > > law-abiding-citizen has no reason to say the LLB is slowing them [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Read my post again, esp the words "law-abiding-citizen". Slower* traffic keep right Lots of states have such laws or variants thereof http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html *Slower, as in being slowER than the predominant speed >>>As long as they do at or even above the speed limit, a >>>law-abiding-citizen has no reason to say the LLB is slowing them [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Read my post again, esp the words "law-abiding-citizen". The law abiding citizen is the driver trying to pass on the left. The law breaking citizen is the unsafe congestion causing illegal arrogant unsafe conceited law breaking L L B. Even the State driving classes which have troopers teaching motorists proper driving technique emphasize to clear the left lane as soon as practical, no matter what speeds are involved. GK LBMHBF gets by in life due to the generous handouts of the government it loves to critisize so much. Obviously LBMHBF is *way* too damned stupid to have a real job. |
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