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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / April 2005Left lane is NOT for speeding
Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. That's not the way THEY use it. > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people > to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. We don't live in a black-and-white world; post-secondary education reinforces this. Enough said. > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people > to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. We don't live in a black-and-white world; post-secondary education reinforces this. Enough said. > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people > to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. That's > not the way THEY use it. Speeders, http://tinyurl.com/6kspx http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/browse_frm/thread/d908196d b67b88b1/941b967a7a411037?q=%22Furious+George%22+%2B+LLB&rnum=2#941b967a7a411037 always have an excuse for their LLBing and I'm sick of it. The only good excuse for LLBing is to slow down speeders because you are saving lives. >Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people >to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. That's >not the way THEY use it. The left lane is for "faster traffic". Whether that 'faster traffic' is 'speeding' - that's a legal issue. For sure though, if you're driving significantly BELOW the posted speed limit, you shouldn't be in the left lane. > >Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people > >to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. That's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > BELOW the posted speed limit, you shouldn't be in > the left lane. I don't care if you're going 120MPH in the left lane. If I come up behind you, you should get over, even if you have to slow down to hit a hole. >> >Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling >people [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >behind you, you should get over, even if you have to slow down to hit a >hole. Ah ... people like you are why cars should be equipped with bazookas ..... >>>>Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Ah ... people like you are why cars should be equipped > with bazookas ..... Bazookas would be cool, but all those bits flying about might damage YOUR car, better a disintegrator ray. If yr the guilty type, I hear Acme sells the disintgrator and reintegrator as a set. You have to watch yr audience, tho, certain individuals might consider that a late-term abortion.  SignatureComrade Mister "Uncivil Engineering Professor" Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com/ "The left is a parody of resistance" >>>>>Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling >>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >sells the disintgrator and reintegrator as a set. You have to watch yr >audience, tho, certain individuals might consider that a late-term abortion. Well, since you're already carrying 20-odd gallons of gasoline ... why not a flamethrower to discourage tailgaters ? :-) > > > > > > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders > > > > > > telling [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > of gasoline ... why not a flamethrower to discourage > tailgaters ? :-) LOL! Watch the video ! http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/ LLB's who are not certified law enforcement officers have no business trying to be cops. Keep right, except to pass, even if the passer is exceeding the speed limit. Leave law enforcement to the police and the courts. I'd like to point out a CA law for some of the nimrods who think it's okay to set their own speed limit in the left lane. If your speeding and someone comes up behidn you wants you to move, you HAVE TO MOVE. He can get a speeding ticket, you can get a speeding ticket and YOU can get a failure to yeild ticket, believe it not. (I taught traffic school for a few years). >(I taught traffic school for a few years). Are you a comedian? SignatureSloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/ >> >Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling >people [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >behind you, you should get over, even if you have to slow down to hit a >hole. Suppose you're doing 70 passing someone doing 55 in a 55 zone? Do you have the patience to let the car in front you pass the car he's passing, and pull over when he's far enough ahead not to cut the other car off? > Suppose you're doing 70 passing someone doing 55 in a 55 zone? Do you > have the patience to let the car in front you pass the car he's > passing, and pull over when he's far enough ahead not to cut the other > car off? I find it interesting that that person is perfectly willing to cut off a faster driver in the left lane, but is so worried about cutting off a driver who is actually going slower than him. >> Suppose you're doing 70 passing someone doing 55 in a 55 zone? Do you >> have the patience to let the car in front you pass the car he's [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >faster driver in the left lane, but is so worried about cutting off a >driver who is actually going slower than him. Who's cutting off the faster driver? The guy doing 70 starting passing the driver doing 55 when the guy doing 120 is a half mile behind. >>>Suppose you're doing 70 passing someone doing 55 in a 55 zone? Do you >>>have the patience to let the car in front you pass the car he's [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > passing the driver doing 55 when the guy doing 120 is a half mile > behind. At 40 MPH (the difference between 70 and 120) it will take 45 seconds to cover a half mile, and at 15 MPH (the difference between 55 and 70) it takes 30 seconds to cover 1/8 mile (a rough estimate of how long you need to be in the passing lane to complete a pass - this is relative to the car in the right lane, not actual road distance) so there isn't a problem. However, it's clear that some posters to this thread (not necessarily pointing any fingers in your direction, mind you, just making an observation) are unable to accurately judge speed, distance, or both. IRL, I would say that my handwaving math is conservative, if traffic is light you should not have to take 30 seconds to pass a single car. 1/8 mile is a lot of clearance, 100 yards is more like it really, which would allow you to complete the pass in about 15 seconds (110 yards is roughly 1/16 mile, running track in high school helps in discussions like this later in life <G>) less if you speed up a little. nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > ... 110 yards is roughly 1/16 mile ... Roughly? Assuming that (A) you refer to imperial yards and statute miles and (B) things have not changed since Miss Pollock taught me about them four decades back, the "roughly" is inappropriate. >>... 110 yards is roughly 1/16 mile ... > Roughly? > > Assuming that (A) you refer to imperial yards and statute miles > and (B) things have not changed since Miss Pollock taught me > about them four decades back, the "roughly" is inappropriate. There are 1760 yards per mile. Divide that by 16 to get 110 yards. I'd say that ±10 yards is consistent with the definition of "roughly" in terms of estimates. >>> ... 110 yards is roughly 1/16 mile ... >> Roughly? >> >> Assuming that (A) you refer to imperial yards and statute miles >> and (B) things have not changed since Miss Pollock taught me >> about them four decades back, the "roughly" is inappropriate. > There are 1760 yards per mile. Divide that by 16 to get 110 yards ... Sorry. For some reason, I was reading the original statement as "100 yards is roughly 1/16 mile," instead of 110. >>>Suppose you're doing 70 passing someone doing 55 in a 55 zone? Do you >>>have the patience to let the car in front you pass the car he's >>>passing, and pull over when he's far enough ahead not to cut the other >>>car off? >>I find it interesting that that person is perfectly willing to cut off a >>faster driver in the left lane, but is so worried about cutting off a >>driver who is actually going slower than him. > Who's cutting off the faster driver? The guy doing 70 starting > passing the driver doing 55 when the guy doing 120 is a half mile > behind. A speed differential of 50 mph in 3600 seconds translates to a half mile in 36 seconds. Giving about 200 feet behind the car you're passing, 15 feet for the car's length itself, and 200 feet ahead of the car before moving back to the right lane, it would take about 20 seconds to complete the passing maneuver with a 15 mph differential. Therefore, if the faster driver caught up with that guy, he must have cut him off. >>Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people >>to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. That's >>not the way THEY use it. > > The left lane is for "faster traffic". More correctly, the left lane is for PASSING. While it is true that while one is passing one is usually also faster traffic, one can also be faster traffic while not passing (in which case one should still be in the right lane). SignatureSloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/ What's funny? In Cali, you can (and if caught by a CHP, usually will) be ticketed for causing cars to pass on the right. The cars passing on the right on freeways can also be ticketed, I forget the law they cite, but CHP can and do issue tickets for it, even at or under the speed limit. I'm glad, even though I don't speed more than 1-2 mph over the limit. (No speedometer is flawless AFAIK, so I assume I'm a little over/under the limit no matter what.) I'm in no hurry, so I just stay off to the right. There's nothing that pisses me off more though than when some dumbass has to block the left lane and make people almost hit me to pass them. Yeah, I try to slow down a little to give them a bigger gap, but if the dumbass LLB would just move right things would be a heluva lot safer for me, the law-abiding citizen. So Saint Judy, stop being a left lane bitch and make the road safer for those of us that follow the f.cking laws you hold so dearly. I drive for a living, it's not worth losing my job or paying more for insurance cause a cop saw me breaking an arbitrary limit, so I follow them. If you ever caused my car to get hit while being a LLB, you better hope my car can't chase you down and ram you off the road. At that point, you've shown law doesn't matter, so why should I worry about assault charges for putting you in a coma? A real idea would be to start living a good example for others, maybe show up at some city council meetings with consistant ideas in order, and suggest realistic changes to the law. You appear to be a troll (who makes me laugh) instead though, so I'm sure you wouldn't waste your time doing something constructive rather than posting crap for me to laugh at after a few drinks. (Since I'm not going out driving at this point...) Dave >I'm in no hurry, so I just stay off to the right. There's nothing that >pisses me off more though than when some dumbass has to block the left [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >dumbass LLB would just move right things would be a heluva lot safer >for me, the law-abiding citizen. Not gonna happen. You've definitely got the right idea - your safety is far more important than the scant few seconds you lose by slowing down to create a safe gap. You might also consider speeding up temporarily - same net effect, but no loss for you. If done intelligently, your risk of a speeding ticket is insignificant. >So Saint Judy, stop being a left lane bitch Aunt Judy is not a LLB IRL. He only play one on USENET. >You appear to be a troll A little slow on the uptake, aren't you? :) SignatureSloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/ get the f.ck out of the left lane if you're in front of me or I will run you off the damn road !!!!!! problem solved ! > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people > to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. That's > not the way THEY use it. > get the f.ck out of the left lane if you're in front of me or I will run you > off the damn road !!!!!! > problem solved ! If I'm in front of you, you will kiss my a.s and tell the world how sweet it is. > > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people > > to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. That's > > not the way THEY use it. > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people > to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. That's > not the way THEY use it. Speeding causes deaths?? Perhaps. but if you try to appoint yourself as a traffic policeman and drive slow in the fast lane forcing people to go around you then you have only increased the danger. Is that what you want? Keep the speeders all in the left lane and life on the freeway will be much safer. In Germany its illegal to pass on the right when driving down the freeway. Its equally illegal to be in the left lane when not passing slower traffic. It should be that way everywhere. >> Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling > people [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to go around you then you have only increased the danger. Is that what > you want? Hey, 'Laura' is the same person that wanted everyone to boycott ATM machines a year ago, you actually expect her to be intelligent? Signature"It's interesting. I see all these political ads and all these commentators say it's our job as Americans to vote. Let me tell you something, with Bush in charge of the economy, this might be the only job you have all year." -Jay Leno On 4/7/2005 3:02 PM, Aunt Judy (Pride of Diarrhea) <http://tinyurl.com/2s2nz> wrote: > Speeding is a deadly crime. Doubly wrong. > I'm sick of these speeders And legislators, and police, and traffic engineers, and safety experts, and etc. > telling people > to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. Because, wonder of wonders, it *is* meant for passing. Heaven forbid they try to make our roads safer, right Judy? > That's not the way THEY use it. Sure it is. "KRETP. It's not a suggestion." Signature~/Garth "I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." - Edith Sitwell (Mail pgp@v6stang.com for secure contact information) > Re: Left lane is NOT for speeding The white zone is for loading and unloading only. If you have to load or unload, go to the white zone. Youll love it. Its a way of life. Signature"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata." +-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous" > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people > to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. That's > not the way THEY use it. Gee, dear, last time I noticed, if you go faster than the fuckwit in the other lane, you _pass_ them. That's why it's _called_ "the passing lane". And, that's why the cops want the slow assed-morons like you and the 90-yr-old space cadets to get their a.ses in the _slow_ lane. soli13ta...@verizon.net wrote: > > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling > people [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > lane". And, that's why the cops want the slow assed-morons like you > and the 90-yr-old space cadets to get their a.ses in the _slow_ lane. The passing lane is for people going less than the speed limit to pass other people going less than the speed limit. If you are going faster than the speed limit, tap the brakes until the problem corrects itself. If you are driving near (but below the speed limit) then feel free to take the passing lane. Your presence there will help remind speeders to SLOW THE f.ck DOWN. > soli13ta...@verizon.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > take the passing lane. Your presence there will help remind speeders > to SLOW THE f.ck DOWN. No, your presence there will remind people that for every really smart person there's an equally dumb one. Your offsetting counterpart bust be f.cking brilliant. nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel [Edited for accuracy:] > The passing lane is for people going [faster] to pass > other people going [slower]. Signature~/Garth |"I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. ******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant." (pgp@v6stang.com for secure mail info) --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) > soli13ta...@verizon.net wrote: > > > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > take the passing lane. Your presence there will help remind speeders > to SLOW THE f.ck DOWN. Traffic is going about five over the speed limit, so what are you babbling on about? Signature"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata." +-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous" > > soli13ta...@verizon.net wrote: > > > > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Traffic is going about five over the speed limit, so what are you > babbling on about? Then what are people complaining about. Traffic isn't blocked if it is travelling at the speed limit. > -- > "Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata." > > +-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous" > > > soli13ta...@verizon.net wrote: > > > > > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Then what are people complaining about. Traffic isn't blocked if it is > travelling at the speed limit. And your toilet isn't clogged if some water and waste is still getting through. Signature"When you pull a gun, kill a man." -+John Ford, "My Darling Clementine" > > > > soli13ta...@verizon.net wrote: > > > > > > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > And your toilet isn't clogged if some water and waste is still getting > through. But no knowledge is passing through your brain so it must be clogged. > -- > "When you pull a gun, kill a man." > -+John Ford, "My Darling Clementine" > soli13ta...@verizon.net wrote: > > > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > take the passing lane. Your presence there will help remind speeders > to SLOW THE f.ck DOWN. I'm not sure what idiotic planet you live on, son, but in my neck of the woods traffic is usually at about 7-10 miles over the speed limit _normally_. If you block traffic, some people in the DC area have been known to take potshots at other drivers. And there are the road-rage morons who chase you, and when you finally stop to figure out what the hell they're mad about, take a baseball bat to you. If traffic is going at a particular speed, you better go with the flow or you'll get a semi up your a.s. Or a ticket for obstructing traffic. >>soli13ta...@verizon.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > morons who chase you, and when you finally stop to figure out what the > hell they're mad about, take a baseball bat to you. Is this the same DC area I live in? I WISH people did that here. nate > If traffic is going at a particular speed, you better go with the flow > or you'll get a semi up your a.s. Or a ticket for obstructing traffic. Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > soli13ta...@verizon.net wrote: > > > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The passing lane is for people going less than the speed limit to pass > other people going less than the speed limit. Wrong asswipe. Any objective observation of any highway in any town/city in the USA will clearly illustrate otherwise. > If you are going faster > than the speed limit, tap the brakes until the problem corrects > itself. Why? > If you are driving near (but below the speed limit) then feel free to > take the passing lane. Your presence there will help remind speeders > to SLOW THE f.ck DOWN. Naw, the flashing lights in you rear-view mirror will reming left lane blocking asshats like you to pull the f.ck over. > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people > to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. That's > not the way THEY use it. Doesn't matter, dude. It's not for cruising either, so if you're cruising in it, you're breaking the law, no matter what the other guy is doing. The law says you have to let me pass, and it does not say "unles I'm speeding". Are you the Miss Manners of the road? You sound like someone who minds everyone elses business. > Are you the Miss Manners of the road? You sound like someone who minds > everyone elses business. It used to be the LAW that "slow traffic and trucks stay right." Too bad those laws were dropped, now we have unbelievable traffic snarls as the "elderly drive in the left lane 20 miles an hour UNDER the speed limit. > Are you the Miss Manners of the road? You sound like someone who minds > everyone elses business. That would have to be Mister Manners, because LBMHBF is a man. But he isn't interested in manners anyway, only in venting his helpless agression at a world that doesn't let him play with the big boys. Chris Some say he may play with the little boys.. > Some say he may play with the little boys.. Why are you insulting the regular posters to R.A.D. in that way? I'll have you know that while some of them may be 16 year old, pimply faced DIGs, most of them are in their 50s and 60s with bellies big enough to match their egos and sense of entitlement. But are they true Road Warriors? > Speeding is a deadly crime. I'm sick of these speeders telling people > to stay out of the left lane because it's meant for passing. That's > not the way THEY use it. By any chance did you send this in to a Bay Area radio station this morning? Cuz they read a listener's email on Alice this morning and it was basically this same rant. Sarah and Noname were all "huh? whatever!" All this bitching about driving slow in the fast lane (a dozen or so threads worth in the last few weeks) but in my experience, if you're driving slower than someone in the left lane, they'll just pass you in right lane. I've done it; I've had people do it to me if I don't move into the right lane after passing someone quick enough for them. Personally, I abide by my state's 'Keep Right Except to Pass' signs. If some idiot wants to blow by me at 15+ over the limit, I say let him. He can get the speeding ticket from the state trooper over the next hill. Those lead-foots are my 'fuzz busters'. |
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