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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / May 2005Why do motorcyclists ride in formation?
instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? You've seen them--especially Harleys: the first rides close to the right boundary of the lane, the next one close to the left boundary, and they continue alternating like that. Some even ride abreast. How can it be safe for them to ride so close to the lane boundaries? They put themselves too close to passing vehicles. > instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? > You've seen them--especially Harleys: the first rides close to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > boundaries? They put themselves too close to passing > vehicles. Probably for a clear line-of-sight. I suspect that is why they always stop behind the corner of a car at a light or stop sign.(why they stop only inches away from my bumper,I do not know.)  SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net >> instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? >> You've seen them--especially Harleys: the first rides close to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >light or stop sign.(why they stop only inches away from my bumper,I do not >know.) Next question - why do they ride as a mass that get to be 500 continuous feet long? Can you pass something like that on a 2 lane road? If you have an inifinite line of sight so you can see that there's nothing coming (but usually there is) and you have to hit 170 mph in order to get around 'em all before the next oncoming car. They _could_ at least ride in clumps no more than 50 feet long, and leave some room to get around 'em by passing a clump at a time. But no... Dave Head >Next question - why do they ride as a mass that get to be 500 continuous feet >long? Can you pass something like that on a 2 lane road? If you have an [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >They _could_ at least ride in clumps no more than 50 feet long, and leave some >room to get around 'em by passing a clump at a time. But no... Pedalcyclists aren't the only arrogant cyclists on the road... SignatureLife is short - drive fast! http://www.geocities.com/scottenaztlan/ >>Next question - why do they ride as a mass that get to be 500 continuous feet >>long? Can you pass something like that on a 2 lane road? If you have an [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Pedalcyclists aren't the only arrogant cyclists on the road... TROLL Your name has been added to the National Troll list. After five trolling occurances, you will no longer be allowed to use the internet for a period of five years. If this is your second violation, you will never be allowed on the internet again. You have been warned. >TROLL > >Your name has been added to the National Troll list. After five >trolling occurances, you will no longer be allowed to use the internet >for a period of five years. If this is your second violation, you >will never be allowed on the internet again. You have been warned. BWAAAHAAAHAAAA!!!! Looks like our friend with the underdeveloped "Nigillac" trolling skills is pissed off at being outed. ROFLMAO!!! SignatureLife is short - drive fast! http://www.geocities.com/scottenaztlan/ On Tue, 24 May 2005 20:50:45 -0700, Scott en Aztlán , said the following in rec.autos.driving... > On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:53:54 -0500, > imatroll@americansocietyforthepropagationoftrolling.com wrote: <troll blather snipped> > BWAAAHAAAHAAAA!!!! > > Looks like our friend with the underdeveloped "Nigillac" trolling > skills is pissed off at being outed. ROFLMAO!!! Simple things from simple judy dairya minds, Scott. You were expecting better, I presume? ;-) >> Looks like our friend with the underdeveloped "Nigillac" trolling >> skills is pissed off at being outed. ROFLMAO!!! > >Simple things from simple judy dairya minds, Scott. You were expecting >better, I presume? ;-) Judy is not the only troll in the USENET, Paul. Methinks there's a new skid on the crotch. :) SignatureLife is short - drive fast! http://www.geocities.com/scottenaztlan/ On Wed, 25 May 2005 07:05:08 -0700, Scott en Aztlán , said the following in rec.autos.driving... > >> Looks like our friend with the underdeveloped "Nigillac" trolling > >> skills is pissed off at being outed. ROFLMAO!!! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Methinks there's a new skid on the crotch. :) Probablly true, but with a similar mentality. :( > TROLL > > Your name has been added to the National Troll list. After five > trolling occurances, you will no longer be allowed to use the internet > for a period of five years. If this is your second violation, you > will never be allowed on the internet again. You have been warned. Who died and made you Ghod? >>>instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? >>>You've seen them--especially Harleys: the first rides close to [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Dave Head Well, they are MFFY-ers just like you. They feel it is more convenient or safer, so screw the others. Just like you feel about being a road block in the left lane. > instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? > You've seen them--especially Harleys: the first rides close to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > boundaries? They put themselves too close to passing > vehicles. Yes but think where all the little drops of oil, trans fluid, ...and other slippery things drip in the middle of the lane. >> instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? >> You've seen them--especially Harleys: the first rides close to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Yes but think where all the little drops of oil, trans fluid, ...and other >slippery things drip in the middle of the lane. That is why they don't drive in the middle, but hugging the line is done only be the most ignorant of them. I do the same thing to them that I do to semi's that can't keep their ignorant a.ses out of my space - I merge into their lane as soon as my bumper is past them. Trucks tend to "wake up" quickly when I do this, but those morons on 2-wheels do so even faster. (NOTE: I ride myself, I just stay in my lane, so if you want to bitch about what I do, STFU.) > That is why they don't drive in the middle, but hugging the line is > done only be the most ignorant of them. I do the same thing to them > that I do to semi's that can't keep their ignorant a.ses out of my > space - I merge into their lane as soon as my bumper is past them. > Trucks tend to "wake up" quickly when I do this, You do this to big trucks? You have balls of steel :) >> I merge into their lane as soon as my bumper is past them. >> Trucks tend to "wake up" quickly when I do this, > >You do this to big trucks? You have balls of steel :) Actually, there's very little risk involved. In order for the Trucker to hit you, he would have to both catch up to you AND out-accelerate you, neither of which is very likely given that a) the car is already moving faster as part of the act of passing, and b) quickly changing the velocity of a 60,000 slug mass is almost impossible. SignatureLife is short - drive fast! http://www.geocities.com/scottenaztlan/ >>> instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? >>> You've seen them--especially Harleys: the first rides close to [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > (NOTE: I ride myself, I just stay in my lane, so if you want to bitch > about what I do, STFU.) I hope someone knocks the sh.t out of you at the next stop light. SignatureDWA should be a felony. > instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? > You've seen them--especially Harleys: the first rides close to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > boundaries? They put themselves too close to passing > vehicles. The center of the lane is filled with oil drips and lumpy things. The white lines are slippery when wet, not to mention the botts' dots and other lane markers. Much safer to ride in the paths cleaned by the 4-wheelers' tires. SignatureCheers, Bev -------------------------------------------- There is no such thing as a foolproof device because fools are so ingenious. > > instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? > > You've seen them--especially Harleys: the first rides close to > > the right boundary of the lane, the next one close to the left > > boundary, and they continue alternating like that. Forgot to mention that this enables each rider to see further ahead than if they rode in single file. > > Some even ride abreast. I've seen more cops doing that than civilians. > > How can it be safe for them to ride so close to the lane > > boundaries? They put themselves too close to passing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > lines are slippery when wet, not to mention the botts' dots and other lane > markers. Much safer to ride in the paths cleaned by the 4-wheelers' tires. SignatureCheers, Bev ==================================================================== "My parents just came back from a planet where the dominant lifeform had no bilateral symmetry, and all I got was this stupid F-Shirt." > instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? Think about it. If they were single file and maintaining the same distance to the bike ahead, it would take *twice as much* space. This way, the line is more compact while leaving each bike the same amount of braking space (You can brake *past* a bike ahead of, and to your side). The reasons for not riding in the middle also include the 'grease strip', but the reasons *I* ride in staggered formation are above and below. In addition, you will normally find the lead bike near the center line, for the best view ahead of, and *around*, leading traffic. If the line passes (as mine often do; we're not *slow* cruisers), the lead bike passes and then moves to the right side of the lane so the following one can see and/or have room to move in beside/behind quickly. The bikes remaining behind the passed vehicle will shuffle to reform the original configuration (lead bike left; others staggered behind). In fact, sometimes the lead passer will even hold up a hand with one (just him) or two (one more guy behind - who can't actually see from his side of the lane) fingers to indicate how many can be passing before encountering oncoming traffic. It's damn near ballet ... ;^) -- C.R. Krieger (Been there; done that) > instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? > You've seen them--especially Harleys: the first rides close to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > boundaries? They put themselves too close to passing > vehicles. Three reasons: * It's legal. At least, it is here on the Left Coast. * Riding in formation is a skill that takes practice. Notice how NASCAR and bicycle racers always bunch up? They're saving energy by drafting. And it's easier to look out for each other and not get separated. * They can move a lot faster this way. Maybe it happens, but I've never seen a motorcycle formation pulled over for speeding, yet they usually do +10 mph on the open road. I joined a club headed southbound on I-5 out of Willows CA. The formation ate up the miles like popcorn. Skip Elliott Bowman wrote: > * It's legal. At least, it is here on the Left Coast. CA vehicle code section 21705 says it isn't. And of course none of the "reasons" you gave really answers "why?". (#3 comes close, but 10 over is _slow_. If you don't feel safe going that fast except in a pack, you're such a wuss you shouldn't be on the freeway.) My guess is that the bikers-in-formation are just "ducklings", exactly like the kind of bozo who fastens himself on your rear and stays there for miles. They probably act the same way when driving their cars. >instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? >You've seen them--especially Harleys: the first rides close to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >boundaries? They put themselves too close to passing >vehicles. They're f.cking morons, that's why. Jeebus H. f.cking Christ have you never seen a biker movie? Have you never seen a biker? >instead of riding in single file down the middle of the lane? To make running them over easier! >You've seen them--especially Harleys: the first rides close to >the right boundary of the lane, the next one close to the left [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >boundaries? They put themselves too close to passing >vehicles. |
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