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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / July 2005Illinois becoming more communist as we speak...
On the news today - cameras in construction zones, and tickets to be mailed to all drivers who drive through the area. Makes sense if you think about how every driver speeds through these areas, as to do the speed limit would get you killed. I guess I will just have to make sure to drive REAL f.cking CLOSE to the guy ahead of me so the communists can't see my plate. > On the news today - cameras in construction zones, and tickets to be > mailed to all drivers who drive through the area. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I guess I will just have to make sure to drive REAL f.cking CLOSE to > the guy ahead of me so the communists can't see my plate. Use Photoblocker spray.  SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net >> On the news today - cameras in construction zones, and tickets to be >> mailed to all drivers who drive through the area. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Use Photoblocker spray. Does that help you obey the speed limit in a construction zone? >>Use Photoblocker spray. > Does that help you obey the speed limit in a construction zone? Yes, it keeps your brake pads and rotors in constant contact. >>> On the news today - cameras in construction zones, and tickets to be >>> mailed to all drivers who drive through the area. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Does that help you obey the speed limit in a construction zone? Why does it matter? Only an idiot would do the speed limit in these zones. Doing so is suicide. >>> Use Photoblocker spray. >> >> Does that help you obey the speed limit in a construction zone? > > Why does it matter? Only an idiot would do the speed limit in these > zones. Doing so is suicide. Talk about a point being lost! Ok, show me one incidence where someone was killed for *not* speeding through a construction zone. You'll need it as your defense when your photoblocker spray fails. FYI, "The reduced speed limits are part of a nation-wide effort to reduce crashes in construction areas. In 2000, nationally, the crashes killed 1,093 individuals, 80 percent of them motorists. " > Ok, show me one incidence where someone was killed for *not* speeding > through a construction zone. I've been nearly killed a few times. That sort of thing happens when you are going 20+mph slower than the flow. >> Ok, show me one incidence where someone was killed for *not* speeding >> through a construction zone. > > I've been nearly killed a few times. That sort of thing happens when > you are going 20+mph slower than the flow. Please tell us how you nearly died! The spontaneous fiery wreck, the ambulance ride, the momentary soul departure... all that. >>> Ok, show me one incidence where someone was killed for *not* speeding >>> through a construction zone. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Please tell us how you nearly died! The spontaneous fiery wreck, the > ambulance ride, the momentary soul departure... all that. A large truck nearly rear ending me was the last one. >>>> Ok, show me one incidence where someone was killed for *not* speeding >>>> through a construction zone. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >A large truck nearly rear ending me was the last one. In my case had I obeyed the speed limit I would have been rear-ended by an SUV while trying to get to my exit. I suppose the chances are I would have survived, but I'd rather not get hit. Speeding up from 45 to 55 avoided a collision at the cost of disrupting traffic. 60 would have been a better speed. SignatureJohn Carr (jfc@mit.edu) >>Why does it matter? Only an idiot would do the speed limit in these >>zones. Doing so is suicide. > Talk about a point being lost! > > Ok, show me one incidence where someone was killed for *not* speeding > through a construction zone. How about this scenario: The typical traffic speed on road is 70 mph. The normal posted limit is 50 mph. The construction zone speed limit is 35 mph. Traffic speed slows down to 60 mph. A cyclist is riding through the construction zone at 30 mph. How likely is it that the cyclist will survive? >>> Why does it matter? Only an idiot would do the speed limit in these >>> zones. Doing so is suicide. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > construction zone at 30 mph. How likely is it that the cyclist will > survive? Despite the absurdity of your example, the cyclist has a normal chance of survival rate unless someone does something stupid like turns in front of him - but they wouldn't take a turn at 60, now would they? Of course morons do stupid sh.t like heave things at cyclists and run them off the road, but they do that at all speeds. I didn't think anyone would be able to show an example where someone was killed for not speeding through a construction zone. I think at worst they may have felt intimidated by a tailgater (I was almost *killed!*). Flip the mirror up in that case. >>>> Use Photoblocker spray. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >You'll need it as your defense when your photoblocker spray fails. And here I thought you were the fucktard that suggested using it. > Does that help you obey the speed limit in a construction zone? As someone who has attempted to obey IL construction zone speed limits, DTJ there is right, it's very dangerous to do so. IL is still in the dark ages on NMSL. That means the regular speed limit is already well underposted. Now add to that a construction zone speed limit that is 10mph lower than that. Do people slow down for construction zones? Yes, the ones that warrant it. Do they do the speed limit? No. Do 45mph (or sometimes as low as 35mph) and you will be taking a great risk with your life and your vehicle. I've done it. People on my a.s and others whiping around. People getting really pissed off. BTW, I had someone practically try to kill me because I was obeying a 25mph construction zone speed limit on an arterial road once they got so pissed off. Another thing done on area interstates is to start a little bit of work on the shoulder for about 100 feet or less, put up the 24-7 construction zone speed limit signs and then leave the site unworked on and unmanned for weeks. These are nothing more than revenue gathering devices IMO. > > On the news today - cameras in construction zones, and tickets to be > > mailed to all drivers who drive through the area. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Use Photoblocker spray. You mean black paint ? Graham > On the news today - cameras in construction zones, and tickets to be > mailed to all drivers who drive through the area. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I guess I will just have to make sure to drive REAL f.cking CLOSE to > the guy ahead of me so the communists can't see my plate. Are you suggesting speeding in a construction zone is ok ? Over here in the UK we take the construction zone limits quite seriously for the simple reason that some poor humans actually need to do their job there and we don't want to kill them by accident ! Be thankful they're improving the road. Graham >>On the news today - cameras in construction zones, and tickets to be >>mailed to all drivers who drive through the area. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Are you suggesting speeding in a construction zone is ok ? Sure it is, with the limits in place in most places in the US. > Over here in the UK we take the construction zone limits quite seriously > for the simple reason that some poor humans actually need to do their > job there and we don't want to kill them by accident ! You're implying that a) people are actually working in the construction zone and b) the low limits are actually necessary for the safety of all involved. Generally in the US neither is the case, but the low limits remain. nate > Be thankful they're improving the road. > > Graham Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel >Are you suggesting speeding in a construction zone is ok ? Yes, and the police around here agree. When a state agency posted a dangerously low 45 MPH speed limit in a construction zone the police told drivers to drive 60 and said if a speed reduction were necessary the police would set up a 55 MPH rolling roadblock. >Over here in the UK we take the construction zone limits quite seriously >for the simple reason that some poor humans actually need to do their >job there and we don't want to kill them by accident ! Over here a large majority of fatalites are vehicle occupants, not workers, but the workers have a powerful lobbying force. The government would rather see ten dead drivers than one dead union member. SignatureJohn Carr (jfc@mit.edu) >> Are you suggesting speeding in a construction zone is ok ? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > reduction were necessary the police would set up a 55 MPH > rolling roadblock. "dangerously low 45 MPH speed limit" - that is downright comical. Exactly how did the police tell all these drivers it was OK to speed through the construction site? Bullhorns? Signs? >> Over here in the UK we take the construction zone limits quite >> seriously for the simple reason that some poor humans actually need [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The government would rather see ten dead drivers than one > dead union member. Simply amazing. >>>Are you suggesting speeding in a construction zone is ok ? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > "dangerously low 45 MPH speed limit" - that is downright comical. If it weren't scary, it might be. So, posting a 45 MPH speed limit in a stretch of road that has a normal speed above 60 doesn't sound dangerous to you? Signature~/Garth |"I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. ******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant." (pgp@v6stang.com for secure mail info) --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) >>> Are you suggesting speeding in a construction zone is ok ? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Exactly how did the police tell all these drivers it was OK to speed through >the construction site? Bullhorns? Signs? Newspaper. The police officer in charge of the troop that patrols the Turnpike explicitly assured drivers that they would not get speeding tickets for 60 or less in the 45 zone. SignatureJohn Carr (jfc@mit.edu) > "dangerously low 45 MPH speed limit" - that is downright comical. I've never seen an ISP officer obey a construction zone speed limit. I haven't seen an ISP officer obey a speed limit period in many years now. >> On the news today - cameras in construction zones, and tickets to be >> mailed to all drivers who drive through the area. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Are you suggesting speeding in a construction zone is ok ? Yes. >Over here in the UK we take the construction zone limits quite seriously >for the simple reason that some poor humans actually need to do their >job there and we don't want to kill them by accident ! Over here we employ brain dead morons who step in front of traffic. Darwin in action. If you drive through a zone and some idiot steps in front of you, it doesn't matter how fast you are going. Guess who gets in trouble. They also believe it is funny to create barriers to traffic, which server to do nothing but piss off drivers. Then they stand around and watch traffic bunch up. Poor humans, those are the drivers who have to deal with the idiots working in the zones. > Poor humans, those are the drivers who have to deal with the idiots > working in the zones. I once encountered all lanes of the northbound dan ryan closed the distance between an off ramp and an on ramp with workers just standing around. Took forever to get through the backup... once on the other side it was smooth sailing cept for when the 3 other cars on the interstate lined up side by side. |
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