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Merge Beggars
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Scott en Aztlán - 23 Jul 2005 06:48 GMT It was an all-too-typical scene: idiot driver wants to merge, slows down, turns on signal, and WAITS. There is a space in the adjacent lane more than large enough for her to merge into, but still she hesitates. Through the open window she begins giving hand signals to the driver in the target lane, seeking assurance that he will actually allow her to merge in. The other driver, probably dumbfounded at what he is seeing, does not respond at first, so bimbo keeps up the histrionics until finally the other driver waves her on. At long last she completes her merge.
Meanwhile, everyone in the lane behind this genius had yet another precious minute stolen from their lives.
DYM - 23 Jul 2005 16:51 GMT > It was an all-too-typical scene: idiot driver wants to merge, slows > down, turns on signal, and WAITS. There is a space in the adjacent [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Meanwhile, everyone in the lane behind this genius had yet another > precious minute stolen from their lives. I think I had a precious minute stolen reading that post.
Doug
Scott en Aztlán - 23 Jul 2005 17:14 GMT >> Meanwhile, everyone in the lane behind this genius had yet another >> precious minute stolen from their lives. > >I think I had a precious minute stolen reading that post. I only wish killfiles would work against Sloths.
Jim Yanik - 23 Jul 2005 17:41 GMT > It was an all-too-typical scene: idiot driver wants to merge, slows > down, turns on signal, and WAITS. There is a space in the adjacent [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Meanwhile, everyone in the lane behind this genius had yet another > precious minute stolen from their lives. Heck,they stop DEAD in their lane here in Orlando,and that's just to change lanes because they were two lanes over from where they wanted to make a turn.And they sit there until some enabler lets them in.
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Dave - 24 Jul 2005 01:18 GMT > Heck,they stop DEAD in their lane here in Orlando,and that's just to change > lanes because they were two lanes over from where they wanted to make a > turn.And they sit there until some enabler lets them in. I saw 5 Pepsi cars do that across two lanes after they pulled into the lanes marked I-15 SOUTH ONLY. Apparently the large signs (there's more than one) that say FREEWAY ONLY and I-15 S ONLY aren't enough, so they stopped in the lanes of the ramp so they could get back out of those lanes.
Happened here (Mira Mesa between Westview & I-15): http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=32.917233,-117.118603&spn=0.004098,0.007522&t=k&hl=en for reference.
I don't know how long they blocked the lanes, I used the shoulder to get around them.
Dave
brink - 24 Jul 2005 07:06 GMT >> Heck,they stop DEAD in their lane here in Orlando,and that's just to >> change [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I saw 5 Pepsi cars do that across two lanes after they pulled into the > lanes marked I-15 SOUTH ONLY. pepsi cars?
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Dave - 24 Jul 2005 09:23 GMT > >> Heck,they stop DEAD in their lane here in Orlando,and that's just to > >> change [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > brink Volkswagons (I think) covered with Pepsi logos, like a sales fleet or something.
Dave
Scott en Aztlán - 24 Jul 2005 16:28 GMT >> Heck,they stop DEAD in their lane here in Orlando,and that's just to change >> lanes because they were two lanes over from where they wanted to make a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >stopped in the lanes of the ramp so they could get back out of those >lanes. Was there a lot of traffic in the through lanes?
a.sholes do things like use the "freeway only" lanes to bypass long lines of people who are doing the right thing, and then try to force their way in at the last possible moment - stopping dead and blocking the lane, if necessary.
These are the same a.sholes who, when actually on the freeway, will duck out into the acceleration lane in order to sneak ahead by a few carlengths, and then stop dead with their signal on, blocking everyone who is trying to exit.
Dave - 24 Jul 2005 22:03 GMT > >> Heck,they stop DEAD in their lane here in Orlando,and that's just to change > >> lanes because they were two lanes over from where they wanted to make a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > their way in at the last possible moment - stopping dead and blocking > the lane, if necessary. Are you sure you didn't see this happen? That's exactly what it looked like they were doing. I assume they wanted the I-15N lanes and didn't want to wait in line like everyone else does. That, or they were all so clueless as to where they were going they all got into lanes marked SOUTH FREEWAY ONLY. (It's not just freeway only anymore, I didn't notice till today.)
> These are the same a.sholes who, when actually on the freeway, will > duck out into the acceleration lane in order to sneak ahead by a few > carlengths, and then stop dead with their signal on, blocking everyone > who is trying to exit. Or, if they have a large pickup, will use the grassy median as an extra lane. I've seen that on two different freeways in the last 6 months. Cops seem to take that pretty seriously if you call up with their plate #'s though.
Dave
Scott en Aztlán - 25 Jul 2005 15:06 GMT >> a.sholes do things like use the "freeway only" lanes to bypass long >> lines of people who are doing the right thing, and then try to force [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Are you sure you didn't see this happen? That's exactly what it looked >like they were doing. While I didn't see this particular incident involving the Pepsi cars, the sad truth is I see this kind of sh.t every time I drive.
>I assume they wanted the I-15N lanes and didn't >want to wait in line like everyone else does. I'm one of the few who watches for these ashholes and won't let them get away with it. The problem is, there aren't enough people like me and Brent on the road - most people will be "considerate" and just let them do it. And they know it.
I had one guy try this (in Chicago, BTW). I was driving a rental car with a CDW, so I held my ground. When I wouldn't let him in, the guy got pissed, floored it, and cut in from the shoulder in front of some enabler a few cars ahead.
>> These are the same a.sholes who, when actually on the freeway, will >> duck out into the acceleration lane in order to sneak ahead by a few [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Cops seem to take that pretty seriously if you call up with their plate >#'s though. They better not try that at the end of the Newport Freeway - I saw someone get nailed for driving on the shoulder to sneak past a mile-long backup of stopped cars. It was refreshing to see a cop write up a violation OTHER than speeding.
Sir Lex - 25 Jul 2005 00:51 GMT > It was an all-too-typical scene: idiot driver wants to merge, slows > down, turns on signal, and WAITS. There is a space in the adjacent [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Meanwhile, everyone in the lane behind this genius had yet another > precious minute stolen from their lives. I stopped in an onramp once. When I was learning to drive, I freaked out when I had to do my first merge onto a motorway so I stopped, waited, moved in when it was completely clear. Haven't done it that way since :-)
I reckon the best way to merge onto a motorway is to come screaming down/up the onramp like a bat outta hell. Anyone who may have been contemplating deliberately moving up so as not to let me in will think twice... It's been working that way for me for years, and I've never had a problem.
IMHO, any driver who does not merge at the speed of traffic onto a motorway should be penalised. When I used to have to merge onto motorways on a daily basis, I would usually encounter the aftermath of an accident that had occurred at the bottom of my usual onramp around once a month. Ho hum, I wonder what on earth caused them?
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Scott en Aztlán - 25 Jul 2005 15:12 GMT >I reckon the best way to merge onto a motorway is to come screaming >down/up the onramp like a bat outta hell. Anyone who may have been >contemplating deliberately moving up so as not to let me in will think >twice... Not only that, but it's much easier for you to bleed off speed, if necessary, than it is for some a.shole to speed up and block you.
John David Galt - 26 Jul 2005 03:41 GMT > I reckon the best way to merge onto a motorway is to come screaming > down/up the onramp like a bat outta hell. Anyone who may have been > contemplating deliberately moving up so as not to let me in will think > twice... It's been working that way for me for years, and I've never had > a problem. Good idea. Not that people on the freeway don't have the right to keep you from taking their space -- but the guy who's pushy enough to drive as you describe is exactly the guy I'll let in. His pushing will help me once I'm behind him.
Of course, once in a while a guy will merge in like a bat out of hell, but then turn into a total wuss once you let him in. In that case I have no problem with using methods such as passing in an exit-only lane to get your place back.
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