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They are finally replacing all the crappy concrete highways which have plagued our city (Richmond VA) for decades with asphalt! I am sure someone must have blown someone to have gotten that horrible concrete sh.t put down in the first place. The crews working all night every night patching holes in that crap will finally be a thing of the past. Thank goodness, the roads are finally decent to use. > They are finally replacing all the crappy concrete highways which have > plagued our city (Richmond VA) for decades with asphalt! I am sure someone [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The crews working all night every night patching holes in that crap will > finally be a thing of the past. Is asphalt actually more durable than chip-seal? (Most roads in my country are chip-seal -- I can't imagine any serious stretch of road just being pure concrete, it is too flimsy and slippery). > Thank goodness, the roads are finally decent to use. Certainly a lot quieter to drive on, and easier to see the road markings. In primary school, one of the old hag teachers used "the asphalt" to refer to the concreted play area (there was actually no asphalt). It was really annoying. On 24 Jul 2005 19:18:06 -0700, Old Wolf , said the following in rec.autos.driving... > > They are finally replacing all the crappy concrete highways which have > > plagued our city (Richmond VA) for decades with asphalt! I am sure someone [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > any serious stretch of road just being pure concrete, it is > too flimsy and slippery). Believe it or not, but there are a couple of stretches of 95 down here that are the original cement (not sure if its chip-seal or something else) that was poured almost 30 years ago and has stood up quite well inspite of harsh summer sun every year and ever increasing traffic loads. Its going to be a damn shame to see that surface go when they widen that stretch to 6 lanes in the next few years... <snip>  SignaturePaul Self-appointed unofficial overseer of kooks and trolls in rec.autos.driving. > Believe it or not, but there are a couple of stretches of 95 down here > that are the original cement (not sure if its chip-seal or something [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Its going to be a damn shame to see that surface go when they widen > that stretch to 6 lanes in the next few years... Which portion of 95 are you talking about? They either used a different company / technique, or you must enjoy the constant BAH-DUMP BAH-DUMP of hitting those damn seams every 50 feet, and the loud whine tires make on it. On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:05:01 -0400, JohnH , said the following in rec.autos.driving... > > Believe it or not, but there are a couple of stretches of 95 down here > > that are the original cement (not sure if its chip-seal or something [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Which portion of 95 are you talking about? Georgia, MM 37 to MM 40 is about all that is left. > They either used a different company / technique, or you must enjoy the > constant BAH-DUMP BAH-DUMP of hitting those damn seams every 50 feet, and > the loud whine tires make on it. The sounds from the seams doesn't bother me and there is no whine (at least in my vehicles). Though there are some concrete stretches of 95 in Jacksonville, FL on the Southside that were not too well done and the bah-dump of the seams can be bad. SignaturePaul Self-appointed unofficial overseer of kooks and trolls in rec.autos.driving. > > They are finally replacing all the crappy concrete highways which have > > plagued our city (Richmond VA) for decades with asphalt! I am sure someone [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The crews working all night every night patching holes in that crap will > > finally be a thing of the past. You must be joking. We have a lot of asphalt roads here in SoCal, and a lot of potholes. I put it down to cities saving a few bucks by hiring gypsies to lay down a 2" layer which gets cracked by trucks and floats away during the occasional rainstorm. > Is asphalt actually more durable than chip-seal? > (Most roads in my country are chip-seal -- I can't imagine > any serious stretch of road just being pure concrete, it is > too flimsy and slippery). They go through with big grinders and put grooves in them. First time you hit one with a motorcycle it's kind of scary, but you get used to it. > > Thank goodness, the roads are finally decent to use. Look up. See any pigs in the sky? Same chance. > Certainly a lot quieter to drive on, and easier to see the > road markings. For a while. > In primary school, one of the old hag teachers used "the asphalt" > to refer to the concreted play area (there was actually no asphalt). > It was really annoying. Wuss! Our play area actually WAS asphalt. It was on several levels and there was a steep incline between them that we were forbidden to go down on roller skates. Google earth shows most of the playground covered with buildings now. My old house is a parking lot. My other old house is a bare area between an on-ramp and a freeway. Sic transit gloria mundi. SignatureCheers, Bev ================================================================ I didn't break it! It was doing that before I broke it... er... >Look up. See any pigs in the sky? Same chance. Lotsa times. It's annoying as hell when they're too close, also. That rotor noise: "chop! - chop! - chop!..." Signature-john wide-open at throttle dot info > They are finally replacing all the crappy concrete highways which have > plagued our city (Richmond VA) for decades with asphalt! I am sure someone [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thank goodness, the roads are finally decent to use. Concrete lasts a lot longer than asphalt. Watch your taxes go up now. A better solution would have been to keep the concrete and lower the speed limits. If everyone did under 30 mph in the city, concrete would last forever and the reduction in crashes because of the lower speeds would also save the taxpayer a bundle. > Concrete lasts a lot longer than asphalt. No suprise you hare dead wrong. The concrete around here only provided job security for the patching company. Thankfully they are being shut down. > Watch your taxes go up now. Far better that that than a tool booth. > A better solution would have been to keep the concrete and lower the > speed limits. If everyone did under 30 mph in the city, concrete would > last forever and the reduction in crashes because of the lower speeds > would also save the taxpayer a bundle. This is not a city road; these are interstates. >> Concrete lasts a lot longer than asphalt. > > No suprise you hare dead wrong. Actually, concrete does last a lot longer than asphalt. Asphalt is used because it is cheaper (in the SHORT term), quieter, and easier to atch. -Dave >>> Concrete lasts a lot longer than asphalt. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > used because it is cheaper (in the SHORT term), quieter, and easier to > atch. -Dave I have heard this repeatedly, and my experience with it has shown quite the opposite. Perhaps the stuff works better in other parts of the world; it has most definitely been a disaster here. > > Actually, concrete does last a lot longer than asphalt. Asphalt is > > used because it is cheaper (in the SHORT term) > I have heard this repeatedly, and my experience with it has shown quite > the opposite. Perhaps the stuff works better in other parts of the > world; it has most definitely been a disaster here. It's more to do with what corners get cut by the low-bid contractor, regardless of whether it's inferior concrete or inferior asphalt that's being used. > >>> Concrete lasts a lot longer than asphalt. > >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > opposite. Perhaps the stuff works better in other parts of the world; it > has most definitely been a disaster here. About 15 years back, they asphalted a stretch of road that was formerly concrete. The concrete had been there since the 50's, according to my father. In the time that I was growing up, traveling this road almost daily, I never saw any road crews working on it. They re-asphalt this same stretch of road almost every other year. "Aunt Judy likes it in the rear" <Xeton2001IsATurdTampee.dwpj65@spamgourmet.com> wrote >> >>> Concrete lasts a lot longer than asphalt. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > never saw any road crews working on it. They re-asphalt this same > stretch of road almost every other year. I concur. Most recent example is I90/Snoqualmie Pass in WA state. The concrete pavement there is from circa 1970 or so; three years ago they decided to pave it over with asphalt to make it smoother (after 30 years of chains/studs/salt/trucks/etc.) Now, they have to repair the paving every year. There are concrete roads in the Seattle area that go back to WWII times (Military Road, SR 900, etc., etc.) Best case for asphalt is about 10 years for very light-duty county/neighborhood roads. Floyd > "Aunt Judy likes it in the rear" > <Xeton2001IsATurdTampee.dwpj65@spamgourmet.com> wrote [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > (Military Road, SR 900, etc., etc.) Best case for asphalt is about 10 years > for very light-duty county/neighborhood roads. Now that you mention it, the road I wrote of is a road from WWII times, servicing what used to be a very large military training base for the WWII soldiers. "Aunt Judy likes it in the rear" <Xeton2001IsATurdTampee.dwpj65@spamgourmet.com> wrote >> >>> Concrete lasts a lot longer than asphalt. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > used because it is cheaper (in the SHORT term), quieter, and easier to >> > atch. -Dave (I had a thought after my previous posting) Think about it this way: would you rather live downstream from a concrete or asphalt dam... Floyd > They are finally replacing all the crappy concrete highways which have > plagued our city (Richmond VA) for decades with asphalt! I am sure [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thank goodness, the roads are finally decent to use. The autobahn is all concrete and parts of it were built before WWII - i think some politicians are getting some scam going... conrete should last a long time... unless its poorly mixed and put down |
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