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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / August 2005Old Geezer Killed In Fiery Crash
How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? http://www.local10.com/news/4799446/detail.html Police said John Allen Walton, 63, of Pembroke Pines, was speeding south on Interstate 75 when the car left the highway for unknown reasons. The Corvette crashed into a 36th Street flyover bridge support column head on, bursting into flames. > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > reasons. The Corvette crashed into a 36th Street flyover bridge > support column head on, bursting into flames. sixty-three isn't that old. maybe he was trying to pass a *really* old sloth on the right hand side and just went a little too nuts with the gas? ;-) brink > > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > sixty-three isn't that old. Not that old?? HAHAHAHA. The dood wasn't exactly a cub scout, you idiot. > > sixty-three isn't that old. > > Not that old?? HAHAHAHA. The dood wasn't exactly a cub scout, you > idiot. No, 63 isn't that old. God help us if you live that long, however. you're the f.cking idiot, 63 ISN'T that old you retard. > > sixty-three isn't that old. > Not that old?? HAHAHAHA. The dood wasn't exactly a cub scout, you > idiot. you're the f*cking idiot, 63 ISN'T that old you nitwit. > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > reasons. The Corvette crashed into a 36th Street flyover bridge > support column head on, bursting into flames. Unknown?? Like hell. The article says he was speeding and it's good he killed himself and only himself. > > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Unknown?? Like hell. The article says he was speeding and it's good > he killed himself and only himself. Speeding doesn't magically make cars leave the road and crash into things. If it did, their would be a thousand times more accidents than there are.  SignatureAlan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard." > Troll wrote: >>Unknown?? Like hell. The article says he was speeding and it's good >>he killed himself and only himself. > Speeding doesn't magically make cars leave the road and crash into > things. > > If it did, their would be a thousand times more accidents than there are. Trying to debate with trolls doesn't automatically get them to understand reason. If it did, they would be very few trolls on usenet. > > > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > If it did, their would be a thousand times more accidents than there are. Speeders don't have accidents. They have crashes, usually into some innocent person. Fortunately, this psycho killed only himself. > > > > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > > > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Speeders don't have accidents. They have crashes, usually into some > innocent person. Fortunately, this psycho killed only himself. Try and use your brain for once. The vast majority of people out there "speed" -- they exceed the posted limit, but they don't have crashes. SignatureAlan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard." >Try and use your brain for once. You're about as likely to get the sun to rise from the west tomorrow. :-D > > > > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > > > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Speeders don't have accidents. They have crashes, usually into some > innocent person. Fortunately, this psycho killed only himself. That's *exactly* how everyone's going to feel when you get into an "accident" and off yourself. Wow, think of it: your life began as an accident, and will end as an accident. > > > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Speeding doesn't magically make cars leave the road and crash into > things. You missed 'XXX' then? If the technology exists to make motorcycles leap into the air on command, why can't it be extended to cars? It was a Corvette, you know. > If it did, their would be a thousand times more accidents than there are. SignatureCheers, Bev ----------------------------------------- There's something wrong with my keyboard. Whenever I type x I get x. >> Speeding doesn't magically make cars leave the road and crash into >> things. > >You missed 'XXX' then? If the technology exists to make motorcycles leap into >the air on command, why can't it be extended to cars? You've obviously never seen "Speed Racer." All he had to do was push the 'A' button on his steering column. ;) > <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You've obviously never seen "Speed Racer." All he had to do was push > the 'A' button on his steering column. ;) Uhhh, those were cartoons, not real life. SignatureCheers, Bev ============================================ Buckle Up. It makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car. >> <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Uhhh, those were cartoons, not real life. Whaddya mean they aren't real? Don't you believe there are cars that can fly through the air, cut down trees, drive underwater, have bulletproof cockpits, and have flying homing robots? > <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > down trees, drive underwater, have bulletproof cockpits, and have > flying homing robots? Sure they can, NOW! SignatureCheers, Bev <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please hassle me, I thrive on stress. > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > reasons. The Corvette crashed into a 36th Street flyover bridge > support column head on, bursting into flames. His age had absolutely nothing to do with it. That guy was travelling way too fast for conditions as the description shows: The Corvette was traveling so fast that the front of the car is molded onto the abutment and the rear wheels of the Corvette are off the ground, police said. > > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > traveling so fast that the front of the car is molded onto the abutment > and the rear wheels of the Corvette are off the ground, police said. >From the description and photo I suspect one of two causes. Suicide Medical problem or drunk Harry K > His age had absolutely nothing to do with it. That guy was travelling > way too fast for conditions as the description shows: The Corvette was > traveling so fast that the front of the car is molded onto the abutment > and the rear wheels of the Corvette are off the ground, police said. If you knew anything about Corvettes and what happens to them when they hit solid immovable objects like this one, you'd easily see that he was probably traveling at about the speed limit when he crashed. My guess, from witness statements, would be a heart attack. Same thing happened to a GT1 driver at Road America not too long ago. Straight off Turn 12 at racing speed with no apparent attempt to brake or steer. He was probably dead before he hit the tire wall. We can only wish the same for this guy. You, OTOH, ought to suffer for your ignorance ... -- C.R. Krieger (old enough to know better) > > His age had absolutely nothing to do with it. That guy was travelling > > way too fast for conditions as the description shows: The Corvette was [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > probably dead before he hit the tire wall. We can only wish the same > for this guy. You, OTOH, ought to suffer for your ignorance ... The only semi-hard facts about the what and why are from the opinions of the police quoted in the story. If they say the car was going at a high rate of speed then I think that is pretty reliable information. >The only semi-hard facts about the what and why are from the opinions >of the police quoted in the story. If they say the car was going at a >high rate of speed then I think that is pretty reliable information. Police and reliable do not belong in the same sentence. > >The only semi-hard facts about the what and why are from the opinions > >of the police quoted in the story. If they say the car was going at a > >high rate of speed then I think that is pretty reliable information. > > Police and reliable do not belong in the same sentence. Fortunately for the rest of us people with that misbelief are a very small minority. >> Police and reliable do not belong in the same sentence. > > Fortunately for the rest of us people with that misbelief are a very > small minority. Huh? The last speeding ticket I got was tossed by the judge because the cop who wrote it was unfamiliar with the law. -Dave > > >The only semi-hard facts about the what and why are from the opinions > > >of the police quoted in the story. If they say the car was going at a > > >high rate of speed then I think that is pretty reliable information. Except I don't think they exactly said that. Most headon crashes the police see are attenuated by *some* braking or skidding. This one apparenty wasn't, so the impact was more severe than most. I think *that's* what they're saying. > > Police and reliable do not belong in the same sentence. > > Fortunately for the rest of us people with that misbelief are a very > small minority. Well, as Gary Lewis and the Playboys once said, "Count me in" with that 'minority'. IME, most police officers are largely uneducated in the nuances of speed analysis - especially when a 'Vette or other plastic-bodied car is involved. This one has to be dealt with in terms of crash damage *only* since there were no tire marks (which can be very good indicators of speed). Even those who *are* trained crash analysis experts have some faulty analyses in their portfolios (BTW, what ever happened to the one who used to post here?). I'm sticking with my contention that this car wasn't going at any "high rate of speed". It hit that column at very close to the legal speed limit on that road. I'm also sticking with a sudden medical emergency as the cause. A 63-year-old guy cruising down the highway in his Corvette with the top down isn't exactly the classic picture of a suicide risk. -- C.R. Krieger (Still intolerant of stupidity) > > > >The only semi-hard facts about the what and why are from the opinions > > > >of the police quoted in the story. If they say the car was going at a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > apparenty wasn't, so the impact was more severe than most. I think > *that's* what they're saying. Since you were not there nor do you know the police officer involved I don't know how you could possibly begin to read someting like that in to their statement. You are assuming, and we both know where that can lead. > > > Police and reliable do not belong in the same sentence. > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > cause. A 63-year-old guy cruising down the highway in his Corvette > with the top down isn't exactly the classic picture of a suicide risk. You have the same information I do...a short description of the consequences of an accident with quotes from some unnamed police officer. I'm amazed your ability to divine from thin air facts such as whether he was speeding and what speed his car hit the column at. > -- > C.R. Krieger > (Still intolerant of stupidity) >> >The only semi-hard facts about the what and why are from the opinions >> >of the police quoted in the story. If they say the car was going at a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Fortunately for the rest of us people with that misbelief are a very >small minority. Not only did you forget a comma, making your sentence less than intelligible, you also misspelled belief. >> Police and reliable do not belong in the same sentence. > >Fortunately for the rest of us people with that misbelief are a very >small minority. Though I rarely agree with DTJ, I think he's hit it a lot closer than you have. It's obvious you don't have to have a Ph.D. in Rocket Science to become a LEO. > >> Police and reliable do not belong in the same sentence. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > you have. It's obvious you don't have to have a Ph.D. in Rocket > Science to become a LEO. Some (?most?) jurisdictions now require a college degree. Mine does. Of course a degree doesn't mean the person has any smarts tho. Harry K >> >> Police and reliable do not belong in the same sentence. >> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Some (?most?) jurisdictions now require a college degree. Mine does. >Of course a degree doesn't mean the person has any smarts tho. Nice try, but one does not a statistic make. The only jurisdictions that require 4-year degrees are states and a very few large cities. The overwhelming majority of police forces require nothing more than a high school GED. >>Some (?most?) jurisdictions now require a college degree. Mine does. >>Of course a degree doesn't mean the person has any smarts tho. > >Nice try, but one does not a statistic make. Deja Vu all over again. > >> >> Police and reliable do not belong in the same sentence. > >> > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > very few large cities. The overwhelming majority of police forces > require nothing more than a high school GED. Well there you go. "states and a very few large cities" Strange, my jurisdiction is a county. Harry K >> >Some (?most?) jurisdictions now require a college degree. Mine does. >> >Of course a degree doesn't mean the person has any smarts tho. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Well there you go. "states and a very few large cities" Strange, my >jurisdiction is a county. Damn. My county seems to only hire drunkards and child molesters. That must mean that every other cop in the country is a drunkard and child molester. At least by your, um, logic. > <turnkey4099@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Nice try, but one does not a statistic make. Sure it does, it's just a small one. > The only jurisdictions that require 4-year degrees are states and a > very few large cities. The overwhelming majority of police forces > require nothing more than a high school GED. The only cop (CHP, actually) I've ever known personally would have needed help to get a GED. SignatureCheers, Bev <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please hassle me, I thrive on stress. >> >> Police and reliable do not belong in the same sentence. >> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Harry K Our, admittedly small, force of 17 officers all have atleast a BA. And, if you want to rise above patrol officer, you'd better get your masters degree. Our chief and the senior sargent are both graduates of the F.B.I. Academy in Quantico. Doug >>> Police and reliable do not belong in the same sentence. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >you have. It's obvious you don't have to have a Ph.D. in Rocket >Science to become a LEO. Actually you probably agree with me more than you know. I have the (to some people, annoying) habit of only posting when I disagree with people. Since I don't recall disagreeing with you much, odds are I agree with most of what you say. Which means you agree with me. So there. > > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > traveling so fast that the front of the car is molded onto the abutment > and the rear wheels of the Corvette are off the ground, police said. If you look at the picture slideshow, you get more info: "Witnesses said the car just drifted off I-75 before it hit the abutment." "Police said that a Corvette drifted across lanes and left the highway." "FHP troopers said there were no skid marks or brake marks on the highway." The last one is the clincher. I'm willing to bet there was a medical emergency and the guy lost consciousness, hence excess speed, and no skid marks OR brake marks. >"FHP troopers said there were no skid marks or brake marks on the >highway." > >The last one is the clincher. I'm willing to bet there was a medical >emergency and the guy lost consciousness Possible. >hence excess speed Total non-sequitur. Unless, of course, this guy was, in fact, Speed Racer, and he had installed the GRX engine under the hood of his Mach 5 (which the cops mistook for a Corvette)... >Scott en Aztl=E1n wrote: >> How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >traveling so fast that the front of the car is molded onto the abutment >and the rear wheels of the Corvette are off the ground, police said. Personally, it seems to me that his steering was the problem. I doubt there's any curves on a Florida interstate where it's possible to drive faster in a Corvette than the _car_ could reasonably handle. Certainly not there, from the pictures. Given that he hit the bridge abutment dead-on, I'd suggest suicide. SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > reasons. The Corvette crashed into a 36th Street flyover bridge > support column head on, bursting into flames. Old Geezer. I suggest that in future you refrain from calling 63-year-olds geezers. Aztlan isn't so big that you can hide forever... Why not suicide? SignatureCheers, Bev ----------------------------------------- There's something wrong with my keyboard. Whenever I type x I get x. >Old Geezer. I suggest that in future you refrain from calling 63-year-olds >geezers. Geezer Butler is only 56. > <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote: > > >Old Geezer. I suggest that in future you refrain from calling 63-year-olds > >geezers. > > Geezer Butler is only 56. Who's he? SignatureCheers, Bev ============================================ Buckle Up. It makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of your car. >> <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Who's he? He's a Geezer who's younger than 63. ;) http://www.geezerbutler.com/biography.html > <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://www.geezerbutler.com/biography.html Looks like Yanni. SignatureCheers, Bev <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please hassle me, I thrive on stress. > How much you wanna bet he hit the gas when he meant to hit the brake? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > reasons. The Corvette crashed into a 36th Street flyover bridge > support column head on, bursting into flames. The Corvettes from the 60,s use to blow up into a million pieces. It,s no fun anymore. |
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