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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / September 2005new pet peeve
I've been seeing this alot in my area lately and it's becoming a new major pet peeve. Cop pulls somebody over in the burbs, and the car pulls over and stops in the middle of a turn lane. What really jerks my chain is that the cop always stops behind the person and proceeds to ticket them or whatever. He never makes them pull out of traffic they just pretend not to notice the cars veering around them. I know that cops know better! What the heck's up with that? - Sharon "Gravity... is a harsh mistress!" >I've been seeing this alot in my area lately and it's becoming a new major pet >peeve. Cop pulls somebody over in the burbs, and the car pulls over [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >veering around them. I know that cops know better! What the heck's up with >that? That's nothing - I reported (and Jaybird defended) on a cop in Santa Ana, CA, who pulled someone over at the bottom of a railroad viaduct underpass - basically there were two vehicles stopped dead in the middle of the street in a depressed spot where they could not be seen by approaching traffic; only the long line of stopped cars tipped me off that something was amiss. That dumbass cop is lucky someone didn't rear-end him... >>I've been seeing this alot in my area lately and it's becoming a new major >>pet [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > off that something was amiss. That dumbass cop is lucky someone didn't > rear-end him... Yep. It's sometimes difficult for people to understand why cops are in a particular spot, but that's why they give us the lights. Just remember that it might not always be just a traffic stop, but even if it is there are many reasons why we might be where we're at until we can move somewhere safer. We hate it when people stop in those places too.  Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. > We hate it when people stop in those places too. Why not use the squad car's PA system (if it has one) to instruct the driver to keep driving and find a better place to pull over. I got pulled over for expired registration back when I was 16 (only had been driving for a few weeks at the time) when I was driving my dad's car. Right after the police officer activated the light bar, I moved off to the side. But the shoulder was too narrow and both he and I were partially blocking the traffic lane. The first thing the officer told me was to to continue driving and pull over in the parking lot a quarter mile ahead. I don't see why the officer that Scott was talking about couldn't do the same. >> We hate it when people stop in those places too. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I don't see why the officer that Scott was talking about couldn't do the > same. We can, and we do so all the time. Whether the person listens or not is the question. People who are stupid enough to stop where they shouldn't aren't always smart enough to figure out where they're supposed to go from a loud speaker. The other issue is officer safety, and I'll explain although Scott didn't understand it the last time we went through this. If I light up a car, I want them to stop as soon as possible because that gives them less time to stash things or prepare a possible assault on me. If I have to inconvenience a few other drivers in the process, I'm ok with that and so is case/state law. Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. > If I light up a > car, I want them to stop as soon as possible because that gives them less > time to stash things or prepare a possible assault on me. I like the rolling-stop ones. They'll slowly roll to a stop and keep rolling with their transmission in "D" and their foot riding the brake pedal; they signal every turn and stop at every stop sign. Then some of them speed away after dumping passengers or tossing drugs through the window. >We can, and we do so all the time. Whether the person listens or not is the >question. People who are stupid enough to stop where they shouldn't aren't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >inconvenience a few other drivers in the process, I'm ok with that and so is >case/state law. But again you miss the point. The question of whether some stupid f.ck up politician or judge passed a law or ruled idiotically is irrelevant. The point is that stopping in certain places endangers the officer and the driver. If you can't understand that you should give up your badge. >>We can, and we do so all the time. Whether the person listens or not is >>the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > the officer and the driver. If you can't understand that you should > give up your badge. I'm still waiting for you to pick one up. You always seem to proclaim to know how to use one better than the other couple of hundred thousand cops on the street. Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. >> That's nothing - I reported (and Jaybird defended) on a cop in Santa >> Ana, CA, who pulled someone over at the bottom of a railroad viaduct [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >it might not always be just a traffic stop, but even if it is there are many >reasons why we might be where we're at until we can move somewhere safer. There you go again. :) BTW, I did see a Tustin motorcycle cop writing a ticket in a private parking lot at Tustin Marketplace today at lunch time. Apparently the woman who received the ticket pulled all the way into the parking lot and found an actual parking spot to pull into before stopping; I can only assume that she did so at the cop's explicit instruction, as there are very few SUV-driving bimbos who are smart enough to pul out of the way of traffic when being pulled over for a traffic violation. Kudos to that cop! >>> That's nothing - I reported (and Jaybird defended) on a cop in Santa >>> Ana, CA, who pulled someone over at the bottom of a railroad viaduct [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Kudos to that cop! I absolutely can't stand when people do that, and once again, I'll try and explain. Motorcycles are a little better in that situation because you can squeeze them into small spaces and they don't have dash cameras. When a person pulls into a parking lot, then into a space, I can never position my car in a manner where I'm covering all angles with my camera and/or where I can safely place my vehicle as cover. On top of that, if I do try that I end up blocking the entire lane between the two areas of parking spaces because I have to point my car at theirs. I either end up with my whole driver side exposed to the violator where I have no cover, or the whole passenger side where I lose sight of the driver and occupants. I don't expect every stop to be a safety issue, but I have to always plan for it. The one time that I don't could mean that bad things could happen. Apparently Scott and a few others here think cops are stupid, but there really are reasons why we do things and most people don't understand why unless they've been in our shoes. The best thing to do, and what is required by law, is that when you're stopped you pull as far to the right as possible on the road that you are on and stop. If we want you to move somewhere else, we'll be sure and let you know. If we have to block a little traffic for a few minutes that's ok, and that's why they give us the flashing lights. Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. >> BTW, I did see a Tustin motorcycle cop writing a ticket in a private >> parking lot at Tustin Marketplace today at lunch time. Apparently the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >I absolutely can't stand when people do that And I absolutely can't stand when cops block traffic during traffic stop. So I guess I'll adopt your attitude and say "tough noogies." Pulling off the road and into a parking lot (or other safe area out of the flow of traffic) is not against the law. >Apparently Scott and a few others here think cops are stupid Just *some* cops. Obviously the one I saw yesterday was pretty smart. >>> BTW, I did see a Tustin motorcycle cop writing a ticket in a private >>> parking lot at Tustin Marketplace today at lunch time. Apparently the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Just *some* cops. Obviously the one I saw yesterday was pretty smart. Yep. Tough noogies. Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. > >>> BTW, I did see a Tustin motorcycle cop writing a ticket in a private > >>> parking lot at Tustin Marketplace today at lunch time. Apparently the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Yep. Tough noogies. Huh? Life would be a lot better if more than just a rare few traffic cops displayed intelligence. nate jaybird wrote: > >>> BTW, I did see a Tustin motorcycle cop writing a ticket in a private > >>> parking lot at Tustin Marketplace today at lunch time. Apparently the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Yep. Tough noogies. >Huh? Life would be a lot better if more than just a rare few traffic >cops displayed intelligence. I was adopting my attitude and saying "tough noogies". :o) Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. > The best thing to do, and what is required by law, is that when you're > stopped you pull as far to the right as possible on the road that you are on > and stop. If we want you to move somewhere else, we'll be sure and let you > know. If we have to block a little traffic for a few minutes that's ok, and > that's why they give us the flashing lights. And that's why people drive into cops while they're writing tickets. I guess the camera is one consideration, but not walking into a traffic lane probably should be one also. I've seen plenty of cops use the engine of their car to block the recipient of a ticket into a spot. Seems that reduces the chances of a runner a lot more than having them facing into traffic ready to roll but being on a camera. Dave >> The best thing to do, and what is required by law, is that when you're >> stopped you pull as far to the right as possible on the road that you are [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > guess the camera is one consideration, but not walking into a traffic > lane probably should be one also. That's another thing I never do. I make almost all of my approaches from the passenger side. I also write my tickets while standing behind the passenger door of my car, or off in the ditch to the right. > I've seen plenty of cops use the engine of their car to block the > recipient of a ticket into a spot. Seems that reduces the chances of a > runner a lot more than having them facing into traffic ready to roll > but being on a camera. Yep. It's just all about the best position at the time. Every stop is different. Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. >I absolutely can't stand when people do that, and once again, I'll try and >explain. Motorcycles are a little better in that situation because you can >squeeze them into small spaces and they don't have dash cameras. When a >person pulls into a parking lot, then into a space, I can never position my >car in a manner where I'm covering all angles with my camera and/or where I >can safely place my vehicle as cover. BTW, Jaybird, did it ever occur to you that all those dash-cam videos of cop cars getting rear-ended on the freeway that you see on America's Wildest Police Videos with Sheriff John Bunnell are the DIRECT result of a traffic stop in an unsafe location? At least you take great pains to get a good camera angle so the video of you getting run over will sell to Fox for top dollar. ;) >>I absolutely can't stand when people do that, and once again, I'll try and >>explain. Motorcycles are a little better in that situation because you [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > America's Wildest Police Videos with Sheriff John Bunnell are the > DIRECT result of a traffic stop in an unsafe location? For the amount of stops made daily throughout the world, or just the U.S. and the number of videos of that happening, the percentage is probably 0.0000000001%. You sound like a sensationalist news reporter when they try and make one bad cop video look like an epidemic. Getting hit from behind is not a direct result of a traffic stop in an unsafe location. It is the direct result of an incompetent or impared driver. There are many more dangerous situations you can be put in that outweigh those freak happenings. > At least you take great pains to get a good camera angle so the video > of you getting run over will sell to Fox for top dollar. ;) Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. In article <oG1Xe.17826$S26.15808@tornado.texas.rr.com>, "jaybird" <nospam@me.com> writes: >> And that's why people drive into cops while they're writing tickets. I >> guess the camera is one consideration, but not walking into a traffic [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the passenger side. I also write my tickets while standing behind the > passenger door of my car, or off in the ditch to the right. I'm the op, sorry for the delay in keeping up with my own thread. Business travel sometimes gets in the way of reading usenet. Anyway, if you'll recall the incident I saw and reported on, the cop pulled the car over in a turn lane. Specifically a left-turn lane. It seems in this area if a cop pulls someone over when they're in the right travel lane, they try to pull off the road. But when they're in the left travel lane, they either just stop right there in traffic or pull over into the turn lane. I'm talking roads with concrete median strips so there's no getting off the road in the median. Although I was VERY impressed last week when an ambulance came up from behind us and a car in front of me in the left lane actually pulled his car up onto a concrete-edged median to get out of the way. In this area, the usual response to EMT/fire sirens is complete disregard, which drives me nuts. - Sharon "Gravity... is a harsh mistress!" > I've been seeing this alot in my area lately and it's becoming a new major pet > peeve. Cop pulls somebody over in the burbs, and the car pulls over [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > veering around them. I know that cops know better! What the heck's up with > that? Simple: The purpose of ticketing is to deter. By blocking traffic, the cop seizes the attention of everyone around, so they all see that he is there and willing to ticket people like his target. Whoever that is. I agree with you that the cop is being an a.shole. But that's part of his job, as he sees it. Don't like it? Complain to the city or county that employs him. Maybe they'll come up with a policy forbidding the practice of blocking lanes for trivial things. |
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