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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / October 2005Is Handicapped Parking also Commercial Parking?
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8586/handi11ei.jpg http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/174/handi22rw.jpg DEL MAR, CA - Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he didn't feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was obstructing the view of a narrow driveway. I never used to see businesses hijacking handicapped spots, but over the past few months it's become quite commonplace in the San Diego area. Is this a new trend, or did I just never notice what inconsiderate jackasses people are? Dave >http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8586/handi11ei.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Dave I've seen it for a number of years.. It's the folks for whom logical thinking is a pipe dream.. If you feel like it, call the police.. the striped area is considered part of the handicapped space, and carries the same penalties (currently about $300 in Palo Alto, your rate may vary depending on how greedy the county gets with admin fees, etc..) I suspect you could do the same if the space is blocked with boxes, or other store crap, unless they have additional spaces temporarly designated.  Signature-- Welcome My Son, Welcome To The Machine -- Bob Vaughan | techie @ tantivy.net | | P.O. Box 19792, Stanford, Ca 94309 | -- I am Me, I am only Me, And no one else is Me, What could be simpler? -- >I suspect you could do the same if the space is blocked with boxes, or >other store crap, unless they have additional spaces temporarly designated. There was a Smart & Final near me that used to always use the striped area for putting pallets of bottled water and bulk merchandise. The manager of the store was a jerk when I asked him about it. So I sent a couple pictures to the home office. Since then they've been clear. >DEL MAR, CA - Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he >didn't feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was >obstructing the view of a narrow driveway. People who are dropping somerthing off or picking something up seem to feel they have the right to double park, park in the driveway, park on the sidewalk - basically park wherever they want. From the UPS truck driver to the guy in the F150 who's delivering pizzas, these people feel they are "special" and are entitled to block everybody else for the sake of their own convenience. > >DEL MAR, CA - Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he > >didn't feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > feel they are "special" and are entitled to block everybody else for > the sake of their own convenience. And yet this guy was there when I got there, and still there when I left. And I had time to legally park, go figure... Dave >> >DEL MAR, CA - Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he >> >didn't feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >And yet this guy was there when I got there, and still there when I >left. And I had time to legally park, go figure... That makes no difference to these IBJAMs. A legal parking spot could be 5 feet away, but they'll never use it - after all, that's 5 extra feet they would have to walk. BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I'll Be Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal brevity is the equivalent of diplomatic licence plates, allowing them to park wherever they want as long as their vehicle is blocking traffic for "just a minute." >>> >DEL MAR, CA - Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he >>> >didn't feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > to park wherever they want as long as their vehicle is blocking > traffic for "just a minute." The worst seem to be around hospital entrances. The are signs all over that you can only load and unload passengers, yet, there are those that park and leave their vehicle right there. When I come across them, I try to manuver so my wheel chair lift will block their leaving but allow other traffic to pass. Doug > BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I'll Be > Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal > brevity is the equivalent of diplomatic licence plates, allowing them > to park wherever they want as long as their vehicle is blocking > traffic for "just a minute." For what it's worth, in some places I have often felt the need to use the IBJAM excuse to park in a fire-hydrant spot. OTOH, it would be my problem if a fire happened - I've talked to fire fighters and they will take an axe and run the hose through your car. But a fire hydrant spot doesn't block people any other time. And the delivery truck people will park in the lane rather than use one. Go figure. >> BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I'll Be >> Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >But a fire hydrant spot doesn't block people any other time. Yeah, so I don't object to that as much, although you could still park in such a way that they couldn't hook the hose up to the hydrant (e.g. your car was too close to it). On Sunday I was sitting at a table in a small food court when an IBJAM in a Lexus pulled up to the curb, let his girlfriend out, and then sat there idling his engine despite the availability of a perfectly good parking space less than 10 feet away. Baskin Robbins had a long line, so he sat there idling for several minutes - long enough for two other drivers parked nearby to get into their vehicles and leave (in fact, Mr. IBJAM had to move his car to give them room to back out of their parking spaces). So now there are THREE open parking spaces nearby and Mr. IBJAM still sits there, wasting gas and blocking traffic. >>>BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I'll Be >>>Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > parking spaces). So now there are THREE open parking spaces nearby and > Mr. IBJAM still sits there, wasting gas and blocking traffic. If he'd parked and turned off the engine his AC wouldn't work, and as long as he wasn't going to turn off the engine he might as well stay right where he was. Consider the possibility of investing in a fireman costume, an axe and 50 feet of hose... [For entertainment purposes only, not intended as instructions, do not taunt Happy Fun Ball] SignatureCheers, Bev =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SAVE GAS, FART IN A JAR > >>>BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I'll Be > >>>Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > [For entertainment purposes only, not intended as instructions, do not taunt > Happy Fun Ball] Reminds me of my Happy Fun Car, AKA Dave's First Car, aka a Mustang that would turn off (aka stall out) if you took your foot off the gas. The AC worked though, as long as your food was on the gas. Dave >> [For entertainment purposes only, not intended as instructions, do not taunt >> Happy Fun Ball] > >Reminds me of my Happy Fun Car, AKA Dave's First Car, aka a Mustang >that would turn off (aka stall out) if you took your foot off the gas. Reminds me of the "extra life" powerups in DOOM. They were little speheres that you picked up to get an extra life in the game; we called them Happy Fun Balls. >>>[For entertainment purposes only, not intended as instructions, do not taunt >>>Happy Fun Ball] [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > speheres that you picked up to get an extra life in the game; we > called them Happy Fun Balls. A test for the younguns among us -- who invented the Happy Fun Ball? SignatureCheers, Bev xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine. >>If he'd parked and turned off the engine his AC wouldn't work, and as long as he >>wasn't going to turn off the engine he might as well stay right where he was. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > that would turn off (aka stall out) if you took your foot off the gas. > The AC worked though, as long as your food was on the gas. Everybody had a car that you had to keep feeding gas to or it would stall. Setting the idle higher just made the engine race. Lesser of two evils. SignatureCheers, Bev xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine. >> On Sunday I was sitting at a table in a small food court when an IBJAM >> in a Lexus pulled up to the curb, let his girlfriend out, and then sat >> there idling his engine despite the availability of a perfectly good >> parking space less than 10 feet away. > >If he'd parked and turned off the engine his AC wouldn't work His windows were open. Of course, that's no proof that he wasn't running his A/C... >and as long as he >wasn't going to turn off the engine he might as well stay right where he was. And block traffic? >Consider the possibility of investing in a fireman costume, an axe and 50 feet >of hose... I have all that stuff, but unfortunately it was sitting in the closet at home when I needed it. :) >>>On Sunday I was sitting at a table in a small food court when an IBJAM >>>in a Lexus pulled up to the curb, let his girlfriend out, and then sat [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > His windows were open. Of course, that's no proof that he wasn't > running his A/C... People run their heaters or AC in top-down convertibles. Go figure. >>and as long as he >>wasn't going to turn off the engine he might as well stay right where he was. > > And block traffic? Nobody said he wasn't a rude son of a bitch. >>Consider the possibility of investing in a fireman costume, an axe and 50 feet >>of hose... > > I have all that stuff, but unfortunately it was sitting in the closet > at home when I needed it. > :) A woman would have been prepared. Why do you think our handbags are so heavy? SignatureCheers, Bev xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine. >>>>On Sunday I was sitting at a table in a small food court when an IBJAM >>>>in a Lexus pulled up to the curb, let his girlfriend out, and then sat [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >People run their heaters or AC in top-down convertibles. Go figure. Heats or cools the driver's face, feet, and/or hands while keeping the convertible experience intact. SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. >>><bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Heats or cools the driver's face, feet, and/or hands while keeping the > convertible experience intact. ...for very small values of "intact". SignatureCheers, Bev ===================================== "Incontinence hotline, can you hold?" >>>People run their heaters or AC in top-down convertibles. Go figure. >> >> Heats or cools the driver's face, feet, and/or hands while keeping the >> convertible experience intact. > >...for very small values of "intact". Large values of intact. Rather small values of "heats" and "cools", though, particularly "cools". (that's top down and _windows open_, mind you) SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. >>>>People run their heaters or AC in top-down convertibles. Go figure. >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Large values of intact. Rather small values of "heats" and "cools", > though, particularly "cools". (that's top down and _windows open_, mind you) You misunderstand. An "intact" convertible experience requires excessive wind, excessive heat, excessive cold or excessive moisture. Anything that reduces the excess also reduces the intactness of the convertible experience. What I find amazing is that we actually used to smoke in my friend's Morris convertible. True, we had to hunch over so our heads were near the floor, but still... SignatureCheers, Bev ********************************************* Not all cultures are equal. If they were, we would have a lot more cannibal restaurants. >>>If he'd parked and turned off the engine his AC wouldn't work >> >> His windows were open. Of course, that's no proof that he wasn't >> running his A/C... > >People run their heaters or AC in top-down convertibles. With their windows all rolled up. >Go figure. Indeed. These idiots should save the money and just buy a coupe with a sunroof. >>>Consider the possibility of investing in a fireman costume, an axe and 50 feet >>>of hose... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >A woman would have been prepared. Why do you think our handbags are so heavy? Is your real name Mary Poppins? ;) >But a fire hydrant spot doesn't block people any other time. And the >delivery truck people will park in the lane rather than use one. Go >figure. It's a smaller ticket. By the same token, better to drive up on the sidewalk right in front of the entrance than use a handicapped spot. SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote in news:djkht3$35a $7@blue.rahul.net: >> BTW, since I know someone is going to ask, IBJAM stands for I'll Be >> Just A Minute. It refers to the people who believe that temporal [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > delivery truck people will park in the lane rather than use one. Go > figure. When I was a kid in Philly, I saw what happened to a car that parked next to the hydrant. It was February and the fireman didn't quite get a good seal when hooking up. It was spraying about 2 gal/minute on the car. By the time they were done fighting the fire, the car was encased in a foot thick block of ice. Hope it was a nice car. BTW, this was in Chestnut Hill along Germantown Ave. Doug > >DEL MAR, CA - Apparently since he was just in the striped area, he > >didn't feel it was part of the handicapped spot, or that he was [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > feel they are "special" and are entitled to block everybody else for > the sake of their own convenience. I was in San Francisco yesterday, and I parked on the sidewalk. >I was in San Francisco yesterday, and I parked on the sidewalk. That seems to be SOP in SF. > I was in San Francisco yesterday, and I parked on the sidewalk. All things considered that seems only fair. I was in downtown San Francisco a few years ago and noticed that the pedestrians like to park themselves in the middle of intersections with no intention of moving. Imagine you're at a red light and several pedestrians are standing there in the crosswalk in front of you holding a conversation. The light turns green and they just continue standing there holding their conversation totally oblivious to the traffic jam they're causing. You gently beep your horn and they ignore you. You BEEP your horn and they just give you as nasty look. I saw a lot of that sort of behavior in downtown San Francisco. I also saw a lot of pedestrians crossing streets against the lights without even glancing around first to see if any traffic was headed their way. I wonder how many dumbass pedestrians are killed in traffic collisions each year in downtown San Francisco. - Dan > http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8586/handi11ei.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Dave A lot of us don't believe in special treatment for handicapped people. More discrimination. Laura Bush murdered her boy friend: > A lot of us don't believe in special treatment for handicapped people. > More discrimination. Only an asswipe like you would say something like this, you pedophile faggot. > http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8586/handi11ei.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > area. Is this a new trend, or did I just never notice what > inconsiderate jackasses people are? This seems to vary from one local jurisdiction to the next. In San Francisco I've seen delivery trucks double-park on Polk St. (only one lane each way) during afternoon rush and cops go right by without ticketing them. That's when I wish I had an anti-tank gun under the hood. >http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8586/handi11ei.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >area. Is this a new trend, or did I just never notice what >inconsiderate jackasses people are? What's the big deal? Just give them tickets. After a while they will get the message. ------------- Alex |
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