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Rolling the dice on the law of unintended consequences

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Ad absurdum per aspera - 31 Oct 2005 16:32 GMT
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/31/automobiles/31CARS.html

Looks like a marvelous if rather spendy safety aid... if implemented
and used properly.  But looking at a picture of a big imaging
night-vision display right next to a big GPS display, I wonder how long
it'll be before somebody wads up his car and/or knocks somebody to
Kingdom Come by driving the dashboard rather than the windshield.

BMW's approach of reducing the information displayed to its essentials
rather than providing a full image makes for interesting contrast, no
pun intended and probably not much of one achieved.

At what appears to be a $2k increment on a car that has a digital dash
and an appropriate interface, I wonder how long before these trickle
down into more plebian automobiles... and whether anybody's going to
figure out how to provide this as something approximating a heads-up
display rather than luring your attention down below the dash.

--Joe
C. E. White - 31 Oct 2005 16:56 GMT
The Mercedes "active" system looks cool, but I wonder what happens when one
vehicle with the "active" system meets another vehicle with the "active"
system. Does the display white out?

Ed

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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend - 31 Oct 2005 17:38 GMT
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Just another scam to jack up car prices.  If we cared about safety we'd
throw reckless drivers in prison.
Ad absurdum per aspera - 31 Oct 2005 18:08 GMT
> Just another scam to jack up car prices.

Given that the example shown is an S-class Mercedes, I'd venture that
few of the customers are eating dog food in order to buy a car with
more features.

> If we cared about safety we'd throw reckless drivers in prison

How best to handle he left-hand tail-outliers of the skill and attitude
distribution among drivers is always a good question, but this is
hardly the only approach that we could or should take to safety.
Technology (properly applied) can help in many situations, such as
someone driving along normally and lawfully and basically minding his
own business when Stuff Happens.

I found it interesting that the Lexus dealer-training guy described it
as  most useful for "a rancher in Wyoming"... in an article that
appeared on Halloween.

Aside from the obvious examples like trick-or-treaters, I've seen far
more potentially infrared emitting hazards in the city and the suburbs
than I ever have in many tens of thousands of miles on lonesome Western
highways.  More joggers, more bicyclists (including kids who wear dark
clothing and remove the reflectors from the bike in order to look
cool), more winos lurching randomly into the street, you name it.  The
'burbs have sent more deer my way -- a lot more -- not to mention dogs
and cats... I wonder what user studies might underlie that conclusion,
and how those studies accounted for dark nights and bad weather.

--Joe, wondering if hazard lights aka four-ways with infrared emitters
would go together especially well with such systems
TedKennedyMurderedHisPregnantMistress.dwpj65@spamgourmet.com - 01 Nov 2005 00:11 GMT
> Just another scam to jack up car prices.  If we cared about safety we'd
> throw reckless drivers in prison.

Tires don't blow out anymore.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/9a619fee7f463fc2

Would you rather have a tire blowout at 90 or 50?

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/60203e2351ea4120?hl=en&

At first i thought the tars had been slashed but no, the tars were fine

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&selm=780e
a958.0410311926.d89b941%40posting.google.com


My tars have been bald for two years. Every month i glue some sandpaper
to them and everythings cool - as long as you drive slow and sensible.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/d0d9405ce0464706?hl=en&

If you speed loons would just slow down we wouldn't have a problem.
drive them until the holes get too big for that tire-in-a-can stuff to
work. Then do what I do and go to pep boys and get a set of used
retreads for $50 and repeat.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/dbe7ec33863c0fc4?hl=en

Just get in front of the trucker and lob a handful or marbles at his
windshield. Perfectly legal since he started it.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/acf43f4e647f4416?hl=en&

I wish everyone involved in this "accident" had died.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/5f4bfd6988914951?hl=en

Driving twenty year old beaters doesn't keep me up to date. Anyway it's
a stupid idea.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/ff331395cfc7b81b?hl=en

Screw driver training and courtesy.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/d4aaae4439d8c383

I don't care who i kill; it's just an accident.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/79da070478765cee

Even a safety nut like me doesn't carry things that far.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/c24964a9d26bba6d?hl=en&

You are a COMPLETE EMMEFFING MORON with no physical intuition at all.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/5506a386f2fb4da9?hl=en&

If you love cars then you love speeding and reckless driving and that
means you love killing and maiming children.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/f1e9f5e4c1382edb?hl=en&

Tailgaters are members of NAMCLA. Don't crowd me or you will DIE!!!!

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/2649446b854b9b07?hl=en&

the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. I get
RESPECT now.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en

Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open stretch
could be 25, i thought. Turns out the cop was right. No complaints from
me then. I should have known the law.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.autos/msg/b140009050c624a9
 
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