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Tickets Drop 40% in San Diego

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Dave - 31 Dec 2005 01:38 GMT
http://www.fox6.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=E7C816F0-44E5-473E-BB43-582
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The San Diego Police Department wrote 40 percent fewer traffic tickets
this year, primarily because of a sharp drop in the number of officers
available for traffic enforcement duties.

Through November, police wrote 34,340 violations for speeding, running
red lights, illegal U-turns and other driving infractions, compared
with 56,900 during the same period last year.

The primary reason for the steep drop this year is that fewer officers
are working traffic enforcement.

Police have been diverted for training, court appearances, special
details and calls deemed to have a higher priority than traffic.

"We are spread thin," San Diego police Executive Assistant Chief
William Maheu said. "It shows in these citation numbers."

The trend will carry over into 2006 because department resources are
unlikely to change significantly.

The department has a budget for 2,102 officers, but just 1,763 officers
are available now, Maheu said.

The police department lost 31 officers this year to law-enforcement
agencies with better pay and benefit packages.

Police estimated that a 40 percent reduction in tickets could mean that
$2 million or more isn't going to the city's general fund.

The ticket decrease, however, doesn't appear to extend beyond San
Diego. The California Highway Patrol and the San Diego County Sheriff's
Department did not report similar declines.

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I'm surprised they don't mention the accident rates, which must have
gone up.  Right?  Or is there a reason to not include them?  Maybe 2
million reasons?

Dave
gpsman - 31 Dec 2005 14:16 GMT
Dave wrote: <brevity snip>
>  The San Diego Police Department wrote 40 percent fewer traffic tickets
> this year, primarily because of a sharp drop in the number of officers
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> million reasons?
> -----
eh...

I wouldn't necessarily expect an increased "accident" rate because
fewer officers issued few citations.  I wouldn't necessarily expect
that infractions have increased just because enforcement has lessened.

U-turns, speeding, red-light running, etc. don't cause crashes *most of
the time*.  It's the increased potential for causing or worsening a
crash that needs to be cited.
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- gpsman
Dave - 31 Dec 2005 14:30 GMT


> Police estimated that a 40 percent reduction in tickets could mean that
> $2 million or more isn't going to the city's general fund.
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>
> Dave

I'm surprised they were willing to admit IN WRITING that traffic tickets are
all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$ and have nothing at all to do with safety.  Nowhere
in the article did anyone express concern that evil speeders were now free
to kill and maim at will, as nobody was writing tickets to stop them.  -Dave
gpsman - 31 Dec 2005 15:20 GMT
Dave wrote: <brevity snip>

> > Police estimated that a 40 percent reduction in tickets could mean that
> > $2 million or more isn't going to the city's general fund.
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> I'm surprised they were willing to admit IN WRITING that traffic tickets are
> all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$ and have nothing at all to do with safety.
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WHERE... in the hell does it say... THAT!!!
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- gpsman
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend - 31 Dec 2005 18:02 GMT
> http://www.fox6.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=E7C816F0-44E5-473E-BB43-582
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>
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> gone up.  Right?  Or is there a reason to not include them?  Maybe 2
> million reasons?

I doubt if it had much impact on the highway crash rate.  Penalties
for highway violations are so mild, drivers just do what they want
anyway.
johns - 31 Dec 2005 23:00 GMT
Cops can't get through that morning and evening traffic. I would
estimate the number of cars per minute coming in to town is
about 1200 per minute. And that lineup starts about 6 AM,
and continues at that rate until 8 AM .. roughly 150 to 200
thousand cars pour in and out of that town twice daily, 5
days a week. That is at least 2 million traffic fines per week
... or 100 million traffic fines per year. How many court rooms
would that fill? If I was a judge in a traffic court, I would wet
my pants just thinking about it. There are no "legal" solutions
to a problem of this magnitude. The only thing that might work
is to not allow cars in the city at all ... only public transportation.

johns
 
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