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A great place to jack a car

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223rem - 07 Jan 2006 15:34 GMT
Those self-serve car washes are great places for jacking cars.
Especially when people are vacuuming their cars, looking down
at the floor mats, completely unaware of their surroundings,
and with the noise of the vaccum making it impossible to hear
anything. I've seen women in nice SUVs at such car washes in bad
areas of Indy, only their a.s sticking out the door as they were
vacuuming their mats. They probably think that during the day
they're safe. It's so stupid to tempt fate like that.
JohnH - 07 Jan 2006 16:35 GMT
> Those self-serve car washes are great places for jacking cars.

And all this time I thought a good place to jack a car was the frame. Go
figure.
Old Wolf - 09 Jan 2006 03:17 GMT
> > Those self-serve car washes are great places for jacking cars.
>
> And all this time I thought a good place to jack a car was the frame. Go
> figure.

Be careful. My car has "chassis rails" that run down the length of the
car. But most of the length of them is just flimsy metal (it's only the
bits forward of about the driver's door hinge that are strong metal and
help to support the engine and trans), I really have no idea why the
car designer put them there. Anyway, I tried to jack my car up on
these rails one time to change a wheel, thinking they were real
chassis rails, and they just crumpled. I then tried using the sills,
which also buckled. Finally I decided to put the jack under the
suspension arm (which I still do, unless I'm planning to remove
part of the suspension!).

Anyhow, one time recently I went to my local inspection station
(NZ requires six-monthly inspections), and there was a new guy
on, and he failed it due to buckled chassis rails -- a $200 job for
a panelbeater to fix. Gah...
Old Wolf - 09 Jan 2006 03:18 GMT
> > Those self-serve car washes are great places for jacking cars.
>
> And all this time I thought a good place to jack a car was the frame. Go
> figure.

Be careful. My car has "chassis rails" that run down the length of the
car. But most of the length of them is just flimsy metal (it's only the
bits forward of about the driver's door hinge that are strong metal and
help to support the engine and trans), I really have no idea why the
car designer put them there. Anyway, I tried to jack my car up on
these rails one time to change a wheel, thinking they were real
chassis rails, and they just crumpled. I then tried using the sills,
which also buckled. Finally I decided to put the jack under the
suspension arm (which I still do, unless I'm planning to remove
part of the suspension!).

Anyhow, one time recently I went to my local inspection station
(NZ requires six-monthly inspections), and there was a new guy
on, and he failed it due to buckled chassis rails -- a $200 job for
a panelbeater to fix. Gah...
Dave Head - 07 Jan 2006 17:01 GMT
>Those self-serve car washes are great places for jacking cars.
>Especially when people are vacuuming their cars, looking down
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>vacuuming their mats. They probably think that during the day
>they're safe. It's so stupid to tempt fate like that.

In Indy, the potential jacker may have to consider that the lady may have a ,40
auto on her someplace, and that she knows how to use it and is willing to use
it.
Dan J.S. - 07 Jan 2006 18:06 GMT
> Those self-serve car washes are great places for jacking cars.
> Especially when people are vacuuming their cars, looking down
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> vacuuming their mats. They probably think that during the day
> they're safe. It's so stupid to tempt fate like that.

Indiana is one of the sensible states that allows conceal carry. You would
be surprised how well that deters jackers. (however given your name of
223rem, i am sure you probably understand it very well)
Scott en Aztlán - 07 Jan 2006 22:32 GMT
>> Those self-serve car washes are great places for jacking cars.
>> Especially when people are vacuuming their cars, looking down
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>be surprised how well that deters jackers. (however given your name of
>223rem, i am sure you probably understand it very well)

How easy is it to conceal an assault rifle? :)
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Dan J.S. - 07 Jan 2006 22:55 GMT
>>> Those self-serve car washes are great places for jacking cars.
>>> Especially when people are vacuuming their cars, looking down
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> How easy is it to conceal an assault rifle? :)

there are handguns with the .223 caliber... they are goofy looking , but
they exist.
223rem - 08 Jan 2006 03:57 GMT
> there are handguns with the .223 caliber... they are goofy looking , but
> they exist.

You mean they shoot 223 remington ammo? That's not possible.
Dave Stone - 08 Jan 2006 04:45 GMT
>> there are handguns with the .223 caliber... they are goofy looking ,
>> but they exist.
>
> You mean they shoot 223 remington ammo? That's not possible.

Yes, there's the OA series made by Olympic Arms. They're huge, like Desert
Eagle size. See: http://www.olyarms.com/?page=m1_oa_models

Bushmaster markets a few things like the above with the Professional
Ordnance acquisition from a few years back. AKA the Carbon 15 pistols. But
they are all 20" and larger. Kind of a grey area there IMHO.
Joe Bramblett, KD5NRH - 09 Jan 2006 08:51 GMT
>> there are handguns with the .223 caliber... they are goofy looking ,
>> but they exist.
>
> You mean they shoot 223 remington ammo? That's not possible.

http://www.tcarms.com/TC_HTML/TC_G2_Pistol_CalChart.htm
Jim Yanik - 09 Jan 2006 15:56 GMT
>>> there are handguns with the .223 caliber... they are goofy looking ,
>>> but they exist.
>>
>> You mean they shoot 223 remington ammo? That's not possible.
>
> http://www.tcarms.com/TC_HTML/TC_G2_Pistol_CalChart.htm

Also the Carbon-15 handgun.
Looks like an AR-15 with no buttstock,and a 9" barrel.

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223rem - 07 Jan 2006 23:36 GMT
> How easy is it to conceal an assault rifle? :)

A lot of light hunting bolt-action rifles shoot
223 remington.
Scott en Aztlán - 09 Jan 2006 00:20 GMT
>> How easy is it to conceal an assault rifle? :)
>
>A lot of light hunting bolt-action rifles shoot
>223 remington.

Those aren't readily concealable, either. ;)
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Scott en Aztlán - 07 Jan 2006 22:29 GMT
>Those self-serve car washes are great places for jacking cars.
>Especially when people are vacuuming their cars, looking down
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>vacuuming their mats. They probably think that during the day
>they're safe. It's so stupid to tempt fate like that.

Got any up-skirt pictures?
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necromancer - 08 Jan 2006 06:43 GMT
Scott en Aztlán, <scottenaztlan@yahooNOSPAM.com> was motivated to say
this in rec.autos.driving on Sat, 07 Jan 2006 14:29:50 -0800:

> >Those self-serve car washes are great places for jacking cars.
> >Especially when people are vacuuming their cars, looking down
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Got any up-skirt pictures?

Scott, don't even take us there, please............
Pooh Bear - 08 Jan 2006 06:58 GMT
> Those self-serve car washes are great places for jacking cars.
> Especially when people are vacuuming their cars, looking down
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> vacuuming their mats. They probably think that during the day
> they're safe. It's so stupid to tempt fate like that.

In such a lawless country I dare say you're right !

Graham
 
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