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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / January 2006Congrats Jaybird.
Texas is boldly leading the USA in the tracking and logging of citizens' movements. http://www.google.com/search?q=texas+RFID+inspection+sticker http://www.infowars.com/articles/bb/rfid_tx_considers_tags_in_all_cars.htm Despite reports of this bill being defeated, it appears that Texas is going ahead with the RFID plan and infastructure anyway. http://www.govtech.net/news/news.php?id=96707 > Texas is boldly leading the USA in the tracking and logging of citizens' > movements. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://www.govtech.net/news/news.php?id=96707 Congrats to me?  Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. > Congrats to me? You can't tell me you don't see the nearly limitless enforcement possibilities for this? Looks like you get incredibly increased power once the system is in place. >> Congrats to me? > > You can't tell me you don't see the nearly limitless enforcement > possibilities for this? Looks like you get incredibly increased power > once the system is in place. Not really. You might see it as such, but the only thing I read that it will do involves insurance, inspection, and registration. Those are all administrative violations. You're the paranoid one, remember? :o) Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. > >> Congrats to me? > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > will do involves insurance, inspection, and registration. Those are all > administrative violations. You're the paranoid one, remember? :o) Yeah, just like those who here in Michigan believed that seat belt violations would eventually become a primary offense. Yeah, they were "paranoid" too... until they DID become a primary offense. >> >> Congrats to me? >> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > violations would eventually become a primary offense. Yeah, they were > "paranoid" too... until they DID become a primary offense. They're primary in Texas too. Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. >> >> Congrats to me? >> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >violations would eventually become a primary offense. Yeah, they were >"paranoid" too... until they DID become a primary offense. It's a lot easier not to be "paranoid" when you're holding the whip. SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. >>> Congrats to me? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > will do involves insurance, inspection, and registration. Those are all > administrative violations. You're the paranoid one, remember? :o) Come on jaybird, you know you'll start using the data of the system. You could issue speeding tickets from a desk back at the station. Better place to 'hide' than in the median after the overpass. > >>> Congrats to me? > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > could issue speeding tickets from a desk back at the station. Better > place to 'hide' than in the median after the overpass. Jaybird would never do that. When that happens, Jaybird's job will be off-shored to India and Jaybird will be laid off. >>>> Congrats to me? >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > could issue speeding tickets from a desk back at the station. Better > place to 'hide' than in the median after the overpass. That's not a bad idea. That would really curb the problem. Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. >>>>>Congrats to me? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > That's not a bad idea. That would really curb the problem. You imply that speeding is a problem. It's about the last thing I'd worry about if I wanted to make the roads safer. To curb the REAL problems you need to get out there and drive in traffic and watch people, something cops seem to be loath to do - they'd far rather hide in the median, behind bridges, etc. and just write speeding tickets. nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel >You imply that speeding is a problem. It's about the last thing I'd >worry about if I wanted to make the roads safer. To curb the REAL [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >nate SHUT UP. :-) Why are you telling him this. IF he listens to you, and we all know that is unlikely, there will be a far better chance of me getting caught from a revenue patrol. ************************* Dave >>>>>>Congrats to me? >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > cops seem to be loath to do - they'd far rather hide in the median, behind > bridges, etc. and just write speeding tickets. Sometimes that's what needs to be done. Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. > >>>>>>Congrats to me? > >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Sometimes that's what needs to be done. hiding to issue speeding tickets? It almost never needs to be done, unless there's a budget problem. For several reasons already posted, it doesn't do much of anything for road safety. nate >> >>>>>>Congrats to me? >> >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > unless there's a budget problem. For several reasons already posted, > it doesn't do much of anything for road safety. It's not a budget problem as much as it is a problem with speeders. Parking between cars in neighborhoods is a good spot, and if you're there on weekends in the afternoon I've had residents come out and thank me for doing it. Some even bring you a coke or something. Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. > >> >>>>>>Congrats to me? > >> >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > weekends in the afternoon I've had residents come out and thank me for doing > it. Some even bring you a coke or something. But speeders aren't a problem on an Interstate highway. (the neighborhood thing is completely unrelated...) There's absolutely no need to artificially limit the natural flow speed unless there's some hazard that's not obvious to the average driver. nate >> >> >>>>>>Congrats to me? >> >> >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > need to artificially limit the natural flow speed unless there's some > hazard that's not obvious to the average driver. Yep, I think we agree on that point, just from different perspectives. I agree that there is no need to limit speed unless there are hazards that aren't always obvious. Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. > It's not a budget problem as much as it is a problem with speeders. Parking > between cars in neighborhoods is a good spot, and if you're there on > weekends in the afternoon I've had residents come out and thank me for doing > it. Some even bring you a coke or something. ----- I'll feed you Cokes, three meals a day, beers by the pool after your shift... and drive you home and pick you up the next morning. Well... not to Texas... ----- - gpsman >> It's not a budget problem as much as it is a problem with speeders. >> Parking [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Well... not to Texas... Got Bud Light? :o) Signature--- jaybird --- I am not the cause of your problems. My actions are the result of your actions. Your life is not my fault. >> hiding to issue speeding tickets? It almost never needs to be done, >> unless there's a budget problem. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >weekends in the afternoon I've had residents come out and thank me for doing >it. Some even bring you a coke or something. I know just the type who do it, too. Here in SoCal (and probably elsewhere) there are certain people, usually residents of newer and/or gated neighborhoods, who feel that they OWN the street. Not only that, but they feel rather possessive about it, and get pissed off if you drive on their street (unless you are their friend/part of their clique - then it's perfectly OK). You can usually tell these people by the fact that the not only allow but ENCOURAGE their children to play in the street, leave their toys in the street, and NOT to get out of the way when non-clique vehicles approach. Some go so far as to put little plastic orange cones and/or yellow and black warning signs out in the street; the "safety" crap, along with the toys, turns the cul-de-sac into a slalom course. And if you have the unmitigated gall to drive on "their" street, they will shout at you to slow down. THESE are the kinds of busybodies who invite police officers to park in their neighborhoods and write speeding tickets. SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave > Here in SoCal (and probably elsewhere) there are certain people, > usually residents of newer and/or gated neighborhoods, who feel that [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > you have the unmitigated gall to drive on "their" street, they will > shout at you to slow down. It could be worse, it could snow.... (reference to idiotic and growing habit of people in chicago to reserve street parking with various pieces of junk) >It could be worse, it could snow.... (reference to idiotic and growing >habit of people in chicago to reserve street parking with various pieces >of junk) They've been doing that since I lived there. Ever take their junk, throw it on the curb, and park in the space anyway? SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave >>It could be worse, it could snow.... (reference to idiotic and growing >>habit of people in chicago to reserve street parking with various pieces >>of junk) > > They've been doing that since I lived there. Ever take their junk, > throw it on the curb, and park in the space anyway? Thankfully I've never had to deal with that.... But I have all sorts of ideas to screw with the process... >THESE are the kinds of busybodies who invite police officers to park >in their neighborhoods and write speeding tickets. Ummm, I was glad to see a cop parked on my street the other day For once people didn't make left turns at the stop sign at 15 mph, then slam on their brakes and yell at pedestrians who were already in the crosswalk. I'd prefer they're enforcing the speed limit, stop signs, and registration laws in a residential area than on I-8 anyway. Although it only changes the behavior once a month, it's a nice change if you walk as often as I do. Dave Hogan >Ummm, I was glad to see a cop parked on my street the other day > >Although it only changes the behavior once a month, it's a nice change >if you walk as often as I do. I walk enough to know that you'd need a cop stationed at EVERY intersection to make any difference. Drivers just don't see pedestrians (or, if they do, they figure they can intimidate you into letting them do whatever they want). SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave >>Ummm, I was glad to see a cop parked on my street the other day >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >pedestrians (or, if they do, they figure they can intimidate you into >letting them do whatever they want). Every other intersection could work, since most people drive marginally better a block before they pass the cop, and a block after they've seen him. Seriously, I was just pointing out that I'd prefer to have a cop on a surface street than a freeway enforcing the minor traffic laws, since that's where the bigger risks to the whole of society come from IMO. Dave > >>Ummm, I was glad to see a cop parked on my street the other day > >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Dave Eh, I think people pretty much drive like freakin' morons on freeways around here. However, what enforcement there is is not useful; at least 2 out of every 3 cops that I see are just parked in the median, either running radar or watching cars go by (I don't use my V-1 anymore as most of the time I am in Virginia or DC even though I live in Maryland) and that doesn't help the real problems at all. I would love to see cops actively patrolling the freeways and ticketing people for unsafe lane changes, unsafe merges, not signalling, improper light use (high beams, rear fogs, etc.) LLBing, etc. etc. etc. (well they can't ticket people for LLBing in Maryland, but I'd still like to see it) but I am not holding my breath waiting for that to happen. I have just pretty much accepted that freeways around here are a lawless mess, and the best I can do is simply try to keep from being collected by one of the many morons out there and at the same time not get picked up by the revenue patrol. Fortunately my reflexes haven't failed me yet, but it does take constant attention. Just yesterday I had a Yukon try to merge into my passenger door, despite more than ample space ahead of and behind me (couldn't move left, because his onramp turned into my exit ramp...) nate > I walk enough to know that you'd need a cop stationed at EVERY > intersection to make any difference. Drivers just don't see > pedestrians (or, if they do, they figure they can intimidate you into > letting them do whatever they want). I decided to walk to the store today. Some dumbass nearly ran me down today as he drove cell-phone on ear into the crosswalk. My direction had the green light. I should have pretended that he made me fall on the hood. At over 200lbs and given the thin sheetmetal I should have made a good sized dent without hurting myself and it looking entirely accidental. >I decided to walk to the store today. How long has it been since you've done that? ;) BTW, when my wife and I walk to the store, we carry a couple EuroSacs (http://www.bags4you.com/Bags/bags.html) with us. When empty they fit easily into a pocket, but each loads up with more than a regular grocery bag will hold, and the handles are MUCH easier on the hands than those plastic grocery bags. Plus they're green, and some stores even give you a small credit for each bag of your own that you bring in. >Some dumbass nearly ran me down today as he drove cell-phone on ear >into the crosswalk. My direction had the green light. I should have >pretended that he made me fall on the hood. At over 200lbs and given the >thin sheetmetal I should have made a good sized dent without hurting >myself and it looking entirely accidental. That will waste at least an hour of your time if a cop comes out to take statements and make a report. Quicker (and nearly as effective at scaring the piss out of them) to just slap their fender. SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave >>I decided to walk to the store today. > How long has it been since you've done that? ;) At that point? About 3 seconds. I had walked to the bank in the other direction just before I decided to go to the store. I walk when I don't feel like driving and the conditions aren't going to make bicycling comfortable or I don't want to park my bicycle at the destination. (in this case wally world) > BTW, when my wife and I walk to the store, we carry a couple EuroSacs > (http://www.bags4you.com/Bags/bags.html) with us. When empty they fit [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > even give you a small credit for each bag of your own that you bring > in. If I would get a credit, I'd just bring some of the plastic ones I have... generally when I walk it's when I am not buying much. In this case two jugs of grape juice. >>Some dumbass nearly ran me down today as he drove cell-phone on ear >>into the crosswalk. My direction had the green light. I should have >>pretended that he made me fall on the hood. At over 200lbs and given the >>thin sheetmetal I should have made a good sized dent without hurting >>myself and it looking entirely accidental. > That will waste at least an hour of your time if a cop comes out to > take statements and make a report. Quicker (and nearly as effective at > scaring the piss out of them) to just slap their fender. laff >>>I decided to walk to the store today. > >> How long has it been since you've done that? ;) > >At that point? About 3 seconds. I had walked to the bank in the other >direction just before I decided to go to the store. You've been talking to Jaybird too long - you're evading questions like a pro now. ;) What I was really trying to find out is how often you walk places; I don't trecall you ever mentioning it before. >I walk when I don't feel like driving and the conditions aren't going to >make bicycling comfortable or I don't want to park my bicycle at the >destination. (in this case wally world) You live within walking distance of a Wal-Mart? That's both a blessing and a curse, neh? :) >> BTW, when my wife and I walk to the store, we carry a couple EuroSacs >> (http://www.bags4you.com/Bags/bags.html) with us. When empty they fit [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >generally when I walk it's when I am not buying much. In this case two >jugs of grape juice. I guess I just don't have "workin' hands" - the handles on those plastic bags start to get pretty uncomfortable after a block or two. SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave >>> How long has it been since you've done that? ;) >>At that point? About 3 seconds. I had walked to the bank in the other >>direction just before I decided to go to the store. > You've been talking to Jaybird too long - you're evading questions > like a pro now. ;) > > What I was really trying to find out is how often you walk places; I > don't trecall you ever mentioning it before. See the 'frank and his village' thread of some time ago. It depends. I mostly bike, but self induced wind chill and not having a safe place to tie it up will cause me to walk. Anyway as I thought it the best way to get somewhere starting in the late 80s. (as a kid I mostly biked, but I'm not counting walking home from school etc) >>I walk when I don't feel like driving and the conditions aren't going to >>make bicycling comfortable or I don't want to park my bicycle at the >>destination. (in this case wally world) > You live within walking distance of a Wal-Mart? About a mile, mile and half including the parking lot :) >>> BTW, when my wife and I walk to the store, we carry a couple EuroSacs >>> (http://www.bags4you.com/Bags/bags.html) with us. When empty they fit [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>> even give you a small credit for each bag of your own that you bring >>> in. >>If I would get a credit, I'd just bring some of the plastic ones I have... >>generally when I walk it's when I am not buying much. In this case two >>jugs of grape juice. > I guess I just don't have "workin' hands" - the handles on those > plastic bags start to get pretty uncomfortable after a block or two. I just had one bag this time. I don't walk if I am going to have a lot of stuff to carry... >> I guess I just don't have "workin' hands" - the handles on those >> plastic bags start to get pretty uncomfortable after a block or two. > >I just had one bag this time. I don't walk if I am going to have a lot >of stuff to carry... My wife and I have a total of four hands - no point in wasting capacity. ;) SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave >>>>> Congrats to me? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > That's not a bad idea. That would really curb the problem. It looks like you are getting the police state you desire. |
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