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It's an Urban Legend, but What the Hell :)

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Scott en Aztlán - 20 Jan 2006 05:03 GMT
This showed up in my email box today. It has all the earmarks of an
Urban Legend, but I'm posting it here for the amusement value. ;)

=== BEGIN QUOTED EMAIL ===

For those of us who like to drive fast.....

California Highway Patrol will launch a 30-day speeding ticket frenzy
in South Orange County starting January 25, 2006. The state estimates
that 22 million dollars will be generated in speeding tickets. 3
million will go to pay California Highway Patrol officer overtime.
There will be 90 California Highway Patrol officers on duty at all
times patrolling the 7 freeways.  They are the following: 73, 55, 133,
241, 57, 5, 605 freeways.

Now 7 mph above the limit can justify a ticket and every California
Highway Patrol officers is supposed to pull a car over and write a
ticket every 10 minutes.

They have issued 50 brand new unmarked Crown Victoria cruisers and
they are bringing all their part timers on full time. If you live or
work in South Orange County you must take one of their freeways. It's
up to you how fast you are doing when they do. This is a test by the
CHP to raise the extra funds for the State of California. The wealthy
folks of South Orange County can afford this new tax. The California
State Legislators dreamed up this law to help close the budget gap or
something like that. I was told KICU-FM confirmed all of this. So be
safe and don't forget speeding tickets are on you.

You've been warned.
Kevin McMurtrie - 20 Jan 2006 05:59 GMT
> This showed up in my email box today. It has all the earmarks of an
> Urban Legend, but I'm posting it here for the amusement value. ;)

Isn't there a law saying unmarked police cars can't do traffic
infractions?  I wouldn't pull over for one - too many looneys have their
own interior light bar.  It sounds like a hoax to me too.
223rem - 20 Jan 2006 06:10 GMT
>>This showed up in my email box today. It has all the earmarks of an
>>Urban Legend, but I'm posting it here for the amusement value. ;)
>
> Isn't there a law saying unmarked police cars can't do traffic
> infractions?  I wouldn't pull over for one - too many looneys have their
> own interior light bar.  

I agree. But here in Indiana I've seen unmarked F150s doing traffic stops.
Also, unmarked Camaros. If you dont stop and its an unmarked cop
you're in big trouble.
Brent P - 20 Jan 2006 06:31 GMT
>>>This showed up in my email box today. It has all the earmarks of an
>>>Urban Legend, but I'm posting it here for the amusement value. ;)

>> Isn't there a law saying unmarked police cars can't do traffic
>> infractions?  I wouldn't pull over for one - too many looneys have their
>> own interior light bar.  

> I agree. But here in Indiana I've seen unmarked F150s doing traffic stops.
> Also, unmarked Camaros. If you dont stop and its an unmarked cop
> you're in big trouble.

IL state police use camaros and mustangs with civilian plates.  I could
just mount some red and blue lights inside and get big brimmed hat and I
would now appear to be an ISP officer.
223rem - 20 Jan 2006 06:40 GMT
>>>>This showed up in my email box today. It has all the earmarks of an
>>>>Urban Legend, but I'm posting it here for the amusement value. ;)
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> just mount some red and blue lights inside and get big brimmed hat and I
> would now appear to be an ISP officer.

The question is, do you dare not pull over when the unmarked camaro behind you
turns on its disco lights hidden behind the grille?
Brent P - 20 Jan 2006 07:02 GMT
>> IL state police use camaros and mustangs with civilian plates.  I could
>> just mount some red and blue lights inside and get big brimmed hat and I
>> would now appear to be an ISP officer.

> The question is, do you dare not pull over when the unmarked camaro behind you
> turns on its disco lights hidden behind the grille?

I pulled over for one once. It was night and I couldn't tell what make
the vehicle was, only the blue and red lights.

He had been screwing with me for miles. Coming up on my bumper when I
moved into the left lane to pass someone or got stuck behind someone.
Then when I moved right for him to pass, he would refuse to pass. Over
and over again. His initial driving was cop like, but no cop had ever
screwed around that long. Normally they would just pass after I moved
over for them.

When I finally punched it to be rid of him, using a middle lane squatter
to set a pick as I was sick of having someone tailgating me, he
flicked on the lights. Got a warning. Only thing I could tell is that it
wasn't likely a crown vic. Turned out to be a camaro. I just pulled over
and waited for someone in proper uniform to show up being ready to take
off if it wasn't.
Scott en Aztlán - 20 Jan 2006 15:39 GMT
>>>>Isn't there a law saying unmarked police cars can't do traffic
>>>>infractions?  I wouldn't pull over for one - too many looneys have their
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>The question is, do you dare not pull over when the unmarked camaro behind you
>turns on its disco lights hidden behind the grille?

Pick up the cell phone, dial 911, give them your location, and tell
them there is a police impersonator attempting to pull you over. If
it's a real cop, the dispatcher will tell you.
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- Dave

James Clark - 20 Jan 2006 16:12 GMT
>>This showed up in my email box today. It has all the earmarks of an
>>Urban Legend, but I'm posting it here for the amusement value. ;)
>
> Isn't there a law saying unmarked police cars can't do traffic
> infractions?  I wouldn't pull over for one - too many looneys have their
> own interior light bar.  It sounds like a hoax to me too.

Be careful.

In the wake of the murders of Cara Knott and Robin Bishop, the CHP lobbied to increase penalties for
anyone failing to "submit to their authori-tay".
Dave in SD - 20 Jan 2006 22:51 GMT
> > This showed up in my email box today. It has all the earmarks of an
> > Urban Legend, but I'm posting it here for the amusement value. ;)
>
> Isn't there a law saying unmarked police cars can't do traffic
> infractions?  I wouldn't pull over for one - too many looneys have their
> own interior light bar.  It sounds like a hoax to me too.

Looneys like this guy?

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/5991567/detail.html

Dave
DTJ - 20 Jan 2006 22:53 GMT
>> This showed up in my email box today. It has all the earmarks of an
>> Urban Legend, but I'm posting it here for the amusement value. ;)
>
>Isn't there a law saying unmarked police cars can't do traffic
>infractions?  I wouldn't pull over for one - too many looneys have their
>own interior light bar.  It sounds like a hoax to me too.

Depends on the state probably.  In Illinois you DO NOT have to stop
for any unmarked car, no matter how many lights they have hidden in
the grill.

Of course, if you don't they are likely to shoot you...

*************************
Dave
John David Galt - 25 Jan 2006 01:07 GMT
> Isn't there a law saying unmarked police cars can't do traffic
> infractions?  I wouldn't pull over for one - too many looneys have their
> own interior light bar.  It sounds like a hoax to me too.

California law defines "unmarked" ridiculously narrowly.  It can be
impossible to tell from the front that it's a police vehicle (unless
you're close enough to see his Exempt license plates, which no longer
have an octagon symbol) and still be legally considered a marked car.

Even the red light they use to stop you is detachable or reversible,
depending on the car model.
Ratbert - 20 Jan 2006 06:14 GMT
> This showed up in my email box today. It has all the earmarks of an
> Urban Legend, but I'm posting it here for the amusement value. ;)

It recently showed up on Snopes (all the way at the bottom):
http://www.snopes.com/politics/traffic/newjersey.asp
Dave in SD - 20 Jan 2006 21:12 GMT
> This showed up in my email box today. It has all the earmarks of an
> Urban Legend, but I'm posting it here for the amusement value. ;)

What's funny is the past few days I've been seeing more cops doing
traffic enforcement than I did in all of 2005.  I'd doubt it's anything
but random chance, but still odd timing to me.

Dave
Scott en Aztlán - 21 Jan 2006 05:12 GMT
The CHP claims it's a fake. Of course, what better way to lull drivers
into a false sense of security so they can increase the fleece?

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/local/communities/irvine/article_955998.php

Phony e-mail warns of freeway speed trap
CHP denies "speeding-ticket frenzy" in south O.C.

By JIM RADCLIFFE
The Orange County Register

A bogus e-mail is making the rounds claiming the California Highway
Patrol will deploy a massive speed trap on south Orange County
freeways, a CHP spokesman says.

The e-mail, which appears to be getting wide circulation, says the CHP
will start a 30-day "speeding-ticket frenzy" this coming Wednesday to
"raise the extra funds for the state." The number of officers and
patrol cars would be heavily beefed up, the e-mail contends, with
officers writing a citation every 10 minutes.

Chris Goodwin, a CHP officer and spokesman based in Orange County,
says the agency has received several calls about the false Internet
missive.

"That e-mail is ... completely false," said Goodwin, adding that the
CHP does not have ticket quotas. "Somebody made it up."

Even Goodwin got the e-mail. A relative sent it to him, asking if it
were true.

"No, it's 100 percent false," the officer wrote back.
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James Clark - 21 Jan 2006 06:18 GMT
> "That e-mail is ... completely false," said Goodwin, adding that the
> CHP does not have ticket quotas. "Somebody made it up."

That's right. It's the county that has to meet conviction quotas else they are fined by the state.

But that's old news that came out during the OC bankruptcy.
William S. Hubbard - 25 Jan 2006 21:35 GMT
 "Serve and Protect" has become "Observe and Collect." How soon before
it becomes "Stand and Deliver"?
Arif Khokar - 26 Jan 2006 03:22 GMT
>   "Serve and Protect" has become "Observe and Collect."

That is absolutely the best description of traffic enforcement that I've
ever read.  Thanks! :)
William S. Hubbard - 26 Jan 2006 03:35 GMT
 No problem! These people have become "damned revenuers"!
William S. Hubbard - 26 Jan 2006 03:36 GMT
 No problem! These people have become "damned revenuers"!
Jim Yanik - 26 Jan 2006 17:24 GMT
>   No problem! These people have become "damned revenuers"!

In the past,they used to be called "highwaymen";an euphemism for
robbers,theives.

They would set up roadblocks to relieve travellers of their wealth.

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Scott en Aztlán - 26 Jan 2006 05:12 GMT
>>   "Serve and Protect" has become "Observe and Collect."
>
>That is absolutely the best description of traffic enforcement that I've
>ever read.  Thanks! :)

If you liked that you'll love this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0275934152/sr=1-7/qid=1138252274/ref=sr_1_7/102
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What the heck, I'll play too.
- Dave

 
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