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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / January 2006Don't drive in MD!$$(Doesn't everyone speed?)$$
Speed Cameras Coming to Montgomery County New Law Takes Effect In 30 Days Under a measure that won final approval Wednesday in the Maryland General Assembly, Montgomery County will become the first jurisdiction in the state to use automated speed cameras in residential neighborhoods and near its schools. Calling the legislation an unnecessary government intrusion, Gov. Robert Ehrlich had vetoed a bill to allow the use of the cameras. But both the State Senate and House of Delegates voted to override Ehrlich's veto, and its passage was celebrated by Democratic lawmakers in Montgomery County as a way to make roads safer. Under the new law, which takes effect in 30 days, drivers caught going 10 mph or more above the speed limit could be fined as much as $40. The automated cameras are already in use in the District and a handful of other states. http://www.nbc4.com/news/6460938/detail.html Kelley, <mgm@grandhotel.net> was motivated to say this in rec.autos.driving on Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:22:44 -0500: > Calling the legislation an unnecessary government intrusion, > Gov. Robert Ehrlich had vetoed a bill to allow the use of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > by Democratic lawmakers in Montgomery County as a way to > make roads safer. I hope that you will be contacting your "representatives," in the near future and tell them that come re-election time that you will remember this when you step into the voting booth... Speed scameras do nothing to make roads safer. They only serve to line the pockets of the juristictions that use them and the companies that operate them. > Kelley, <mgm@grandhotel.net> was motivated to say this in > rec.autos.driving on Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:22:44 -0500: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > the pockets of the juristictions that use them and the companies that > operate them. I'll definitely be seeing how my reps. voted; not to mention avoiding Monkey Co. more than I already do. Go Erlich. nate > > Kelley, <mgm@grandhotel.net> was motivated to say this in > > rec.autos.driving on Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:22:44 -0500: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > nate or maybe not. http://mlis.state.md.us/2005rs/billfile/HB0443.htm doesn't seem to be any way to see how any particular representative voted. Oh well, guess i'll have to write on principle. nate > Kelley, <mgm@grandhotel.net> was motivated to say this in > rec.autos.driving on Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:22:44 -0500: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > the pockets of the juristictions that use them and the companies that > operate them. Forgot to mention, I've got $50 that says that within a few months there will be general shock and dismay when many residents of Monkey Co. discover that they've been speeding through their own neighborhoods while simultaneously complaining about all the speeders... nate N8N, <njnagel@hotmail.com> was motivated to say this in rec.autos.driving on 26 Jan 2006 17:17:36 -0800: > Forgot to mention, I've got $50 that says that within a few months > there will be general shock and dismay when many residents of Monkey > Co. discover that they've been speeding through their own neighborhoods > while simultaneously complaining about all the speeders... Things like that do sort of have a way of comming back to someone, don't they? I won't take the odds, but $50.00 would be worth it to see the look on one of their faces when they open the envelope and see the ticket... > Forgot to mention, I've got $50 that says that within a few months > there will be general shock and dismay when many residents of Monkey > Co. discover that they've been speeding through their own neighborhoods > while simultaneously complaining about all the speeders... > > nate In a city near me the residents of a particular area kept complaining to council about drivers speeding in their streets. When the police decided to act on the complaints and setup radar traps in those areas, the only people who were caught speeding were *all* local residents, many of whom where caught doing over 80km/h in 50 zones. >> Forgot to mention, I've got $50 that says that within a few months >> there will be general shock and dismay when many residents of Monkey [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >the only people who were caught speeding were *all* local residents, >many of whom where caught doing over 80km/h in 50 zones. Heh, same idea in my old neighborhood. People asked for speed bumps, but when they got them complained they were too jarring on their cars but OTHER kept speeding.. Police increased patrols, residents complained THEY were getting ticketed. Stop signs were installed, residents complained nobody was stopping. Police increased enforcement, residents complained they were getting ticketed again. The whiniest people seem to have the stinkiest sh.t. Dave >>Kelley, <mgm@grandhotel.net> was motivated to say this in >>rec.autos.driving on Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:22:44 -0500: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Co. discover that they've been speeding through their own neighborhoods > while simultaneously complaining about all the speeders... Personally I wish they'd set up a camera that catches people running the four-way stop at my corner. About one out of ten people simply drives right through it at speed. It's one thing when it's people who aren't familiar with the neighborhood, I can understand how it might escape their notice due to a badly-placed bus-stop sign that breaks up the octagon shape of the sign, and this coming right after topping a hill. What really grates my nerves are the people who run the stop sign, at speed, once in the morning going to work, and once in the evening coming home from work. FWIW I personally rarely exceed the speedlimit by more than 10MPH, and in residential areas in most parts of Montgomery County, running 35 in a 25 is probably unwise. A lot of people do roll at "five over" but generally that isn't unreasonable, and this law doesn't penalize such persons.  Signaturenam primi in omnibus proeliis oculi vincuntur. Monkey County just saw how much DC was making in redlight cameras and wanted a piece of that action. But I have to admit, Florida Avenue by Galludet used to be a dragstrip. Now it just barely crawls along at 35mph. They would probably save money by just putting strobe lights at intersections instead of real cameras. Once the strobe at 14th and U went out, everybody went back to running the light. > Speed scameras do nothing to make roads safer. They only serve to line > the pockets of the juristictions that use them and the companies that > operate them. Oh, they do "a little" to make roads safer in that they do slow folks down a tad. Most folks have a "5 to 10 MPH over is OK" view of the speed limit. But some drivers take that a step beyond and have a "5 to 10 MPH over is OK" above the average speed of the traffic. IOW: If the "traffic" is flowing at 55 MPH, they will want to go 60 to 65 and that means they are may be going 20 MPH over the posted limit. The speed cameras will give tickets to the "over the average speed" drivers and put the feat of God into the folks who look at the limit as the minimum speed. >Speed Cameras Coming to Montgomery County > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >http://www.nbc4.com/news/6460938/detail.html Any local contacts for potential tourists to let them know they'll be changing their plans? Dave > Speed Cameras Coming to Montgomery County > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > http://www.nbc4.com/news/6460938/detail.html $40. Oh wow!!!! If they lost their license for 3 months, the speeding problem wouldn't even exist. Looks like they don't want to stop speeding, just in effect tax americans in a new way. >Looks like they don't want to stop >speeding, just in effect tax americans in a new way. Mark this date in history people! LBMHBF said something useful for once! Dave Hogan <--- posts under a real name, unlike many cowards > > Speed Cameras Coming to Montgomery County > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > problem wouldn't even exist. Looks like they don't want to stop > speeding, just in effect tax americans in a new way. Lookout, hypocrite, the cameras are in residential school zones!!! Just where you like to speed!!! > Speed Cameras Coming to Montgomery County > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > http://www.nbc4.com/news/6460938/detail.html Sounds like a great idea to me... Anything we can do to slow traffic where children are about is a good idea. A $40.00 fine may not get the message across though.... > > Speed Cameras Coming to Montgomery County > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Anything we can do to slow traffic where children are about is a good > idea. A $40.00 fine may not get the message across though.... It's for the CHIIIIILLLLLLDRUN!!!1!!! nate > > > Speed Cameras Coming to Montgomery County > > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > nate If Maryland really wanted the revenue all they would need to do would be set up dozens of cameras around the east side of the beltway. Fined at $25.00 for each 5 mile increment over 55mph drivers would probably generate enough fines to allow the stae income tax to be repealed. > > > > Speed Cameras Coming to Montgomery County > > > > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > at $25.00 for each 5 mile increment over 55mph drivers would probably > generate enough fines to allow the stae income tax to be repealed. Or they could just set the speed limit properly, and the road would be safer. Actually I think that some of the east side is signed 65 MPH, but I don't drive that stretch much. (I drive most of the rest of the beltway on a near daily basis, however...) nate > > > > > Speed Cameras Coming to Montgomery County > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > don't drive that stretch much. (I drive most of the rest of the > beltway on a near daily basis, however...) If traffic control is a revenue enhancer as some argue camera based ticket writing on the beltway would be a natural. Better than a state run numbers game...er lottery. Could be a recent change I suppose. We take the Wilson bridge round the beltway to route 50 and it's been marked 55mph. Actual speeds vary upwards to 100mph if you count the boyz on motorcycles playing chase in heavy traffic. > > > > > > Speed Cameras Coming to Montgomery County > > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > ticket writing on the beltway would be a natural. Better than a state > run numbers game...er lottery. Sure it would, no argument there. It won't happen, though, because traffic would quickly grind to a halt as those wise to the scheme would slow to 55 MPH causing massive traffic disruptions. There's no reason for anywhere between the WW bridge and US 50 to be posted anything less than 65 MPH. In reality it could probably be posted at 70 or 75 and things would be fine; unfortunately, MD still has a legislatively mandated 65 MPH statewide speed limit. Certainly when it's not congested people are driving faster than 65 MPH. > Could be a recent change I suppose. We take the Wilson bridge round > the beltway to route 50 and it's been marked 55mph. Actual speeds vary > upwards to 100mph if you count the boyz on motorcycles playing chase in > heavy traffic. I honestly don't recall; I just ASSumed it was 65 MPH, being the lightest traveled section of the beltway and yet has 3 smooth, wide lanes in each direction. Last time I was through there it was still a "work zone" and actually posted at 50 MPH (yeah right!) You know, I used to see the motorcycle kids on US-50 between Bowie and Annapolis all the time a few years ago, they were rather scary as they were traveling so fast - 120 MPH or faster - that even at an 80 MPH cruise you could easily miss one coming up behind you when pulling out to pass. When you checked your mirrors the first time, they'd be over the last hill, but when you checked them again on your way over, they'd be right up on your a$$... but for some reason I haven't seen them more than once or twice the last couple years. I'd usually see them after dark on Saturday or Sunday evenings... don't miss 'em at all. nate >If traffic control is a revenue enhancer as some argue camera based >ticket writing on the beltway would be a natural. What makes you think they don't do it? > >If traffic control is a revenue enhancer as some argue camera based > >ticket writing on the beltway would be a natural. > > What makes you think they don't do it? I'm not aware of them doing it - have you read anything different. Big State Troopers position themselves alongside the fast lanes and motion miscreants over or send cruisers to chase them down. They also use cruisers in traffic and I believe helicopters. N8N, <njnagel@hotmail.com> was motivated to say this in rec.autos.driving on 27 Jan 2006 07:19:26 -0800: > > Sounds like a great idea to me... > > Anything we can do to slow traffic where children are about is a good > > idea. A $40.00 fine may not get the message across though.... > > It's for the CHIIIIILLLLLLDRUN!!!1!!! It's for the ENNNVIRONMENT!!!2!!! |
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