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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / February 2006Man kills himself on United flight after torching car dealership
North Miami Beach city worker kills self on flight to L.A. BY DAVID OVALLE dovalle@MiamiHerald.com The man accused of torching a North Miami-Dade car dealership because he was unhappy with the deal he got on a car killed himself aboard a flight from Washington D.C. to Los Angeles, officials confirmed Thursday. Gerald Georgettis was found in a bathroom aboard United Flight 209, which made an emergency landing at Denver International Airport on Wednesday afternoon. He was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital. His death was first reported Thursday morning by Miami Herald news partner WFOR-CBS4. It was unclear how he killed himself, but Denver police stressed no other passengers were in danger. CBS 4 reported he hanged himself. In a case that drew widespread attention in South Florida, police say that on Saturday Georgettis was upset with the deal he got on a Ford Escape at the Metro Ford dealership at 900 NW Seventh Ave. Georgettis plowed the new car into the showroom glass, then set the business on fire, Miami-Dade police. He worked for the city of North Miami Beach and handed in his resignation on Monday. ''I'm shocked. I still can't believe it,'' North Miami Beach Mayor Raymond Marin told The Miami Herald Thursday morning. ``I know him as nothing more than an nice guy. I can't say anything bad about him. I don't know what happened.'' http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13831219.htm > North Miami Beach city worker kills self on flight to L.A. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13831219.htm I don't believe a word of this story. Media and cops are once again covering up something. > > ''I'm shocked. I still can't believe it,'' North Miami Beach Mayor > > Raymond Marin told The Miami Herald Thursday morning. ``I know him as [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I don't believe a word of this story. Media and cops are once again > covering up something. Yeah, I'm sure all those passengers on the plane were probed by aliens to cause their memory to lapse too. > > North Miami Beach city worker kills self on flight to L.A. > > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > I don't believe a word of this story. Media and cops are once again > covering up something. And yet you believe every word written by a guy who believes the world is run by reptiles. You truely are retarded. > ''I'm shocked. I still can't believe it,'' North Miami Beach Mayor > Raymond Marin told The Miami Herald Thursday morning. ``I know him as > nothing more than an nice guy. I can't say anything bad about him. I > don't know what happened.'' > > http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13831219.htm People are always shocked that some of us actually want to die. Idiots. > People are always shocked that some of us actually want to die. > Idiots. Well, seeing as how self-preservation is one of any animal's most fundamental instinct, I'd say you're the idiot. I suspect that if someone had grabbed this guy before he was able to board that airplane and eventually off himself, and held his face in a sinkful of water in an attempt to drown him, he'd have fought just as hard as any of the rest of us. Geoff  Signature"It's a tough old fuckin' world out there, and if your self-image is based on how much respect you receive from me, you'd better just stick your head in the oven right now." -- Vinnie Jordan > Gerald Georgettis was found in a bathroom aboard United Flight 209, > which made an emergency landing at Denver International Airport on > Wednesday afternoon. He was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital. > It was unclear how he killed himself, but Denver police stressed no > other passengers were in danger. CBS 4 reported he hanged himself. ...in an airplane lavatory? C'mon. > ...in an airplane lavatory? C'mon. Maybe he was "scarfing." Geoff Signature"As far as me being 'a retard' posibly so as compared to a genious." -- ooreroom@aol.com >> Gerald Georgettis was found in a bathroom aboard United Flight 209, >> which made an emergency landing at Denver International Airport on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > ...in an airplane lavatory? C'mon. Welcome to the 6 Mile High Suicide Club Maybe he was upset at the airfare deal he got. > North Miami Beach city worker kills self on flight to L.A. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13831219.htm I would say the gene pool was just improved. > North Miami Beach city worker kills self on flight to L.A. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13831219.htm Normally cross posting irritates me like hell- but can I just say how excellantly this was cross posted! Look - it relates to every single group perfectly! Thats incredible! Don't you think? no? I'll get my coat.... > Normally cross posting irritates me like hell- but can I just say how > excellantly this was cross posted! Look - it relates to every single > group perfectly! Thats incredible! > > Don't you think? no? > I'll get my coat.... How does it relate to aviation disasters? > > Normally cross posting irritates me like hell- but can I just say how > > excellantly this was cross posted! Look - it relates to every single [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > How does it relate to aviation disasters? The disaster of a delayed flight ? Graham Unemployed psycho troll/netkook/pedophile Michael Voight "mrtravel" trolled: >> Normally cross posting irritates me like hell- but can I just say how >> excellantly this was cross posted! Look - it relates to every single [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >How does it blah blah blah troll troll troll kook kook kook? Usenet Public Message The "mrtravel" psycho: - is a 47 year old unemployed loser, alcoholic, drug addict/dealer - has been trolling usenet and flooding newsgroups for TWO DECADES - has been harassing and stalking usenet posters for TWO DECADES - is a known criminal, in trouble with the law since he was a teenager - has no life outside usenet, is online trolling/harassing/stalking 24/7 - is such a loser he often responds to posts within one or two minutes - is a known liar and bullshitter, lies about everything - was fired by Cisco in early 2005 for doing all of the above from work - likes to make death threats - is a known pedophile and child sexual predator - is a known importer of Russian whores looking for fast cheap green cards If you are one of his victims, report him to Scotts Valley police: Michael D. Voight, aka "mrtravel" 111 Bean Creek Rd, No. 118 Scotts Valley, CA 95066-4148 (831) 438-2485 Scotts Valley PD One Civic Center Drive Scotts Valley, CA 95066 (831) 440-5670 Police Chief Steve Lind s l i n d @ s c o t t s v a l l e y . o r g http://www.scottsvalleypd.com Also contact the Scotts Valley mayor: Paul Marigonda m a r i g o n d @ p a c b e l l . n e t About the "mrtravel" psycho - FAQ http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/f207022ace08c90c More info on the psycho http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/25a7ed8ad9d9d920 mrtravel's drug abuse http://groups-beta.google.com/group/ba.general/msg/f0c64751c93c3e2c mrtravel's wife left him http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.air/msg/6828ed1eb3843662 > North Miami Beach city worker kills self on flight to L.A. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13831219.htm So, it sounds like the airline check-in procedure (requiring photo ID) does *not* include a check for outstanding arrest warrants? SignatureGet Credit Where Credit Is Due http://www.cardreport.com/ Credit Tools, Reference, and Forum > So, it sounds like the airline check-in procedure > (requiring photo ID) does *not* include a check for > outstanding arrest warrants? The only ID check I usually get is by the lowly paid person just before the TSA check point. They can't even validate whether the BP matches a current flight. >> So, it sounds like the airline check-in procedure >> (requiring photo ID) does *not* include a check for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >the TSA check point. They can't even validate whether the BP matches a >current flight. Or even whether the name on the BP matches the one on the ID. My wife was issued another PAX's BP by mistake one time; she got all the way through security without anyone from the TSA ever noticing. When she realized she had the wrong BP, she went to the counter at the gate and asked for the right BP; the clerk at the counter informed the TSA, who promptly went apeshit. They wanted to ground the plane and re-screen everyone. Finally, after a long argument, the TSA supervisor saw reason and let the flight proceed without re-screening everyone. SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave Unemployed psycho troll/netkook/pedophile Michael Voight "mrtravel" trolled: >> So, it sounds like the airline check-in procedure >> (requiring photo ID) does *not* include a check for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >the TSA check point. They can't even validate whether the BP matches a >current flight. Too bad they don't check for psychopaths like you and shoot them on the spot. It would make aviation safer and life better for the whole world. Usenet Public Message The "mrtravel" psycho: - is a 47 year old unemployed loser, alcoholic, drug addict/dealer - has been trolling usenet and flooding newsgroups for TWO DECADES - has been harassing and stalking usenet posters for TWO DECADES - is a known criminal, in trouble with the law since he was a teenager - has no life outside usenet, is online trolling/harassing/stalking 24/7 - is such a loser he often responds to posts within one or two minutes - is a known liar and bullshitter, lies about everything - was fired by Cisco in early 2005 for doing all of the above from work - likes to make death threats - is a known pedophile and child sexual predator - is a known importer of Russian whores looking for fast cheap green cards If you are one of his victims, report him to Scotts Valley police: Michael D. Voight, aka "mrtravel" 111 Bean Creek Rd, No. 118 Scotts Valley, CA 95066-4148 (831) 438-2485 Scotts Valley PD One Civic Center Drive Scotts Valley, CA 95066 (831) 440-5670 Police Chief Steve Lind s l i n d @ s c o t t s v a l l e y . o r g http://www.scottsvalleypd.com Also contact the Scotts Valley mayor: Paul Marigonda m a r i g o n d @ p a c b e l l . n e t About the "mrtravel" psycho - FAQ http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/f207022ace08c90c More info on the psycho http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/25a7ed8ad9d9d920 mrtravel's drug abuse http://groups-beta.google.com/group/ba.general/msg/f0c64751c93c3e2c mrtravel's wife left him http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.air/msg/6828ed1eb3843662 >The "mrtravel" psycho: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >mrtravel's wife left him >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.air/msg/6828ed1eb3843662 And I thought the Ken Pangborn/David Moore flame war was bad: http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com Not to mention the Joseph Bartlo kookieness: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/c02e09d2bb9558cb?dmode=source&hl=en These "disputes" are like the Great Red Spot on Jupiter: a gigantic storm that goes on for years and seems to self-perpetuate rather than disspiate. They roil around through various newsgroups but never seem to end. I swear, there has GOT to be a Ph.D. dissertation or two waiting to be wrung out of these people. How do these things get started? What keeps them going? Truly amazing sh.t. SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave > I swear, there has GOT to be a Ph.D. dissertation or two waiting to be > wrung out of these people. How do these things get started? What keeps > them going? > > Truly amazing sh.t. The internet just exposes the kooks, because they've been around all along. And the apparent anonyminity (at least anonymous to those who can't subpeona records) gives them that much more power. Cops can go into chat rooms posing as a 13 year old girl and pick up a pervert in about 5 seconds. > >The "mrtravel" psycho: > > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Not to mention the Joseph Bartlo kookieness: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/c02e09d2bb9558cb?dmode=source&hl=en > These "disputes" are like the Great Red Spot on Jupiter: a gigantic > storm that goes on for years and seems to self-perpetuate rather than [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Truly amazing sh.t. You should have been around rta in the old daze, Scott...it was a "stalker" FLAMEFEST...!!! SignatureBest Greg >You should have been around rta in the old daze, Scott...it was a "stalker" >FLAMEFEST...!!! How long ago? Who was involved? What happened to them? ;) SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave > You should have been around rta in the old daze, Scott...it was a "stalker" > FLAMEFEST...!!! One of the major grocery chains has an opening for a Night Stocker. Am I the only one who finds this funny? SignatureCheers, Bev =========================================== Lawyering: the only profession that if you didn't have it you wouldn't need it. > > You should have been around rta in the old daze, Scott...it was a "stalker" > > FLAMEFEST...!!! > > One of the major grocery chains has an opening for a Night Stocker. Am I the > only one who finds this funny? Cute, although I like this one better: http://rachelandthecity.com/archives/fudge.jpg Mark C., <Mark_invalid_spamblock_@rsii.net> was motivated to say this in rec.autos.driving on Mon, 13 Feb 2006 02:29:30 GMT: > Cute, although I like this one better: > http://rachelandthecity.com/archives/fudge.jpg I'd be interested in hearing *her* explain what she does for a living... >> You should have been around rta in the old daze, Scott...it was a "stalker" >> FLAMEFEST...!!! > >One of the major grocery chains has an opening for a Night Stocker. Am I the >only one who finds this funny? Heh. SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave [all groups except r.a.d. removed from distribution] > These "disputes" are like the Great Red Spot on Jupiter: a gigantic > storm that goes on for years and seems to self-perpetuate rather than > disspiate. They roil around through various newsgroups but never seem > to end. Ever heard of the "meow wars." The story is detailed in the Wikipedia article about usenet. Personally I though it was absolutely hilarious. http://www.godhatesjanks.org/webcenter/meow.html >Ever heard of the "meow wars." The story is detailed in the Wikipedia >article about usenet. Personally I though it was absolutely hilarious. > >http://www.godhatesjanks.org/webcenter/meow.html LOL!! Somehow I missed out on that one... SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave <snip> > Ever heard of the "meow wars." The story is detailed in the Wikipedia > article about usenet. Personally I though it was absolutely hilarious. > > http://www.godhatesjanks.org/webcenter/meow.html Holy cow, that's a riot! I had no idea........... > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Holy cow, that's a riot! I had no idea........... There's still people around that think "meow" posts are cool... not to mention "snuh..." nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel >So, it sounds like the airline check-in procedure >(requiring photo ID) does *not* include a check for >outstanding arrest warrants? I doubt it. It would be too complicated and time consuming. Now that was really stupid. Torching the dealership didn't hurt the salesmen one bit. Their insurance will cover everything and the salesmen get a paid vacation from working until the remodeling. If he really wanted to get them in the pants where it counts he could have torched the salesmens personal cars and houses. Most home insurance doesn't cover arson. > North Miami Beach city worker kills self on flight to L.A. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13831219.htm > Now that was really stupid. Torching the dealership didn't hurt the > salesmen one bit. Their insurance will cover everything ***** > and the > salesmen get a paid vacation from working until the remodeling. ***** Is that so ? I though many US salesmen worked on commission only. Graham >Is that so ? > >I though many US salesmen worked on commission only. > >Graham I guess it could vary by dealership but that's my understanding. >> Now that was really stupid. Torching the dealership didn't hurt the >> salesmen one bit. Their insurance will cover everything [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Is that so ? Maybe, but I doubt it. If they have earned vacation they likely can use it. Otherwise, they'll probably be unemployed while the renovation takes place. Of course, the employer may want to keep his employees, so may pay them anyway. > I though many US salesmen worked on commission only. They do, though there is vacation in the bundle too. A few friends are in the business and get a few weeks vacation a year. They're paid the average commission they received for the previous year. SignatureKeith eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com wrote: <brevity and crossposting snip> > Their insurance will cover everything and the > salesmen get a paid vacation from working until the remodeling. Highly unlikely. Sales work is always commisioned. Any other type of compensation plan denotes the "salesperson" is a mere "clerk". If "paid vacation" is considered a period in which one may worry themselves sick over how the bills will be paid while fighting for unemployment compensation and/or the insurance company... you might be right. newssky wrote: > > The man accused of torching a North Miami-Dade car dealership because > > he was unhappy with the deal he got on a car killed himself... A "good deal" is a state of mind.- Jeff Wyler ----- - gpsman > Now that was really stupid. Torching the dealership didn't hurt the > salesmen one bit. Their insurance will cover everything and the > salesmen get a paid vacation from working until the remodeling. If he > really wanted to get them in the pants where it counts he could have > torched the salesmens personal cars and houses. Most home insurance > doesn't cover arson. Don't salesman get mostly paid by commission? What is the commission on $0? Unemployed psycho troll/netkook/pedophile Michael Voight "mrtravel" trolled: >> Now that was really stupid. Torching the dealership didn't hurt the >> salesmen one bit. Their insurance will cover everything and the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Don't salesman get blah blah blah troll troll troll kook kook kook? >What is the blah blah blah troll troll troll kook kook kook? Go f.ck yourself, stupid troll. Usenet Public Message The "mrtravel" psycho: - is a 47 year old unemployed loser, alcoholic, drug addict/dealer - has been trolling usenet and flooding newsgroups for TWO DECADES - has been harassing and stalking usenet posters for TWO DECADES - is a known criminal, in trouble with the law since he was a teenager - has no life outside usenet, is online trolling/harassing/stalking 24/7 - is such a loser he often responds to posts within one or two minutes - is a known liar and bullshitter, lies about everything - was fired by Cisco in early 2005 for doing all of the above from work - likes to make death threats - is a known pedophile and child sexual predator - is a known importer of Russian whores looking for fast cheap green cards If you are one of his victims, report him to Scotts Valley police: Michael D. Voight, aka "mrtravel" 111 Bean Creek Rd, No. 118 Scotts Valley, CA 95066-4148 (831) 438-2485 Scotts Valley PD One Civic Center Drive Scotts Valley, CA 95066 (831) 440-5670 Police Chief Steve Lind s l i n d @ s c o t t s v a l l e y . o r g http://www.scottsvalleypd.com Also contact the Scotts Valley mayor: Paul Marigonda m a r i g o n d @ p a c b e l l . n e t About the "mrtravel" psycho - FAQ http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/f207022ace08c90c More info on the psycho http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/25a7ed8ad9d9d920 mrtravel's drug abuse http://groups-beta.google.com/group/ba.general/msg/f0c64751c93c3e2c mrtravel's wife left him http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.air/msg/6828ed1eb3843662 > North Miami Beach city worker kills self on flight to L.A. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > which made an emergency landing at Denver International Airport on > Wednesday afternoon. He was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital... What emergency? HE WAS DEAD! Is a stranger's suicide a reason for a whole planeload full of people to be set down in Denver (probably didn't even bring their skis) rather than wherever it was going? Christ, some suicides are real sh.ts. SignatureCheers, Bev ************************************************* Never argue with a woman holding a torque wrench. > > North Miami Beach city worker kills self on flight to L.A. > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > planeload full of people to be set down in Denver (probably didn't even bring > their skis) rather than wherever it was going? I guess they could have taken him back to his seat and let rigor mortis set in ? > Christ, some suicides are real sh.ts. Yup. Some train drivers feel that way too. > Never argue with a woman holding a torque wrench. Ok. Graham >> > North Miami Beach city worker kills self on flight to L.A. >> > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > I guess they could have taken him back to his seat and let rigor mortis set in ? That would be a bit much, but I'm sure they could have put him in a plastic bag and stowed him in with the luggage. Seems a bit callous, but since neither we nor the passengers knew him, no big deal. >> Christ, some suicides are real sh.ts. > > Yup. Some train drivers feel that way too. They're right. Why should a lot of strangers be inconvenienced in any way at all because some jerk needs to use his own death to annoy people? Do YOU feel guilty and remorseful because a stranger throws himself in front of a train and makes everybody hang around uselessly for hours and hours? Christ, scoop up the remains and let everybody go! >> Never argue with a woman holding a torque wrench. > > Ok. Smart man! SignatureCheers, Bev ============================================================ Brian (Talking to crowd): You need to be independant minded. Crowd: We are! We are! Person in crowd: I'm not! -- Monty Python > That would be a bit much, but I'm sure they could have put him > in a plastic bag and stowed him in with the luggage. How would they have gotten him there? There's no easy access to the cargo hold from the passenger compartment of an airliner. They could've let him cool his heels (along with the rest of his body) in the lavatory, but that would've rendered one of the lavs unusable. Or they could've removed the body and belted it into a vacant seat. But with most flights being packed to the rafters ever since dereg- ulation, there may not have been a vacant seat available. Or if there had been, it might've been in a row that was otherwise occupied. Now, sitting next to a dead guy wouldn't bother me, as long as I had the aisle seat -- at least he wouldn't be a talker -- but it would make a lot of folks uneasy. Hey, I know! They could've dragged him up front and strapped him into the cockpit jumpseat. The pilots could've retended that they were being given a line check. Geoff Signature"It's a tough old fuckin' world out there, and if your self-image is based on how much respect you receive from me, you'd better just stick your head in the oven right now." -- Vinnie Jordan > > That would be a bit much, but I'm sure they could have put him > > in a plastic bag and stowed him in with the luggage. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > the aisle seat -- at least he wouldn't be a talker -- but it would > make a lot of folks uneasy. Put him in the seat next to those severely obese people who have been quoted on this NG recently, whinging about angry they are that other passengers object to being crowded by the overflowing flab. He won't complain if their huge arse takes up half his seat. SignatureGet Credit Where Credit Is Due http://www.cardreport.com/ Credit Tools, Reference, and Forum >> That would be a bit much, but I'm sure they could have put him >> in a plastic bag and stowed him in with the luggage. > >How would they have gotten him there? There's no easy access to >the cargo hold from the passenger compartment of an airliner. What about the dumbwaiter in the galley? I've seen it used by people to access the cargo hold in lots of movies... >They could've let him cool his heels (along with the rest of his >body) in the lavatory, but that would've rendered one of the lavs >unusable. It was unusable anyway. Would YOU use a lavatory that someone just died in? >Or they could've removed the body and belted it into a vacant seat. And stink up the entire cabin? NFW!!! SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave >>They could've let him cool his heels (along with the rest of his >>body) in the lavatory, but that would've rendered one of the lavs >>unusable. > >It was unusable anyway. Would YOU use a lavatory that someone just >died in? Considering what I'm going to do in the lavatory, certainly. >>>They could've let him cool his heels (along with the rest of his >>>body) in the lavatory, but that would've rendered one of the lavs [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Considering what I'm going to do in the lavatory, certainly. Right. If he was hanging, I doubt it would interfere. Unemployed psycho troll/netkook/pedophile Michael Voight "mrtravel" trolled: >>>>They could've let him cool his heels (along with the rest of his >>>>body) in the lavatory, but that would've rendered one of the lavs [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Right. If he was hanging, I doubt it would interfere. Nobody would interfere if you hung yourself, idiot troll. Usenet Public Message The "mrtravel" psycho: - is a 47 year old unemployed loser, alcoholic, drug addict/dealer - has been trolling usenet and flooding newsgroups for TWO DECADES - has been harassing and stalking usenet posters for TWO DECADES - is a known criminal, in trouble with the law since he was a teenager - has no life outside usenet, is online trolling/harassing/stalking 24/7 - is such a loser he often responds to posts within one or two minutes - is a known liar and bullshitter, lies about everything - was fired by Cisco in early 2005 for doing all of the above from work - likes to make death threats - is a known pedophile and child sexual predator - is a known importer of Russian whores looking for fast cheap green cards If you are one of his victims, report him to Scotts Valley police: Michael D. Voight, aka "mrtravel" 111 Bean Creek Rd, No. 118 Scotts Valley, CA 95066-4148 (831) 438-2485 Scotts Valley PD One Civic Center Drive Scotts Valley, CA 95066 (831) 440-5670 Police Chief Steve Lind s l i n d @ s c o t t s v a l l e y . o r g http://www.scottsvalleypd.com Also contact the Scotts Valley mayor: Paul Marigonda m a r i g o n d @ p a c b e l l . n e t About the "mrtravel" psycho - FAQ http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/f207022ace08c90c More info on the psycho http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/25a7ed8ad9d9d920 mrtravel's drug abuse http://groups-beta.google.com/group/ba.general/msg/f0c64751c93c3e2c mrtravel's wife left him http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.air/msg/6828ed1eb3843662 >>>It was unusable anyway. Would YOU use a lavatory that someone just >>>died in? >> >> Considering what I'm going to do in the lavatory, certainly. > >Right. If he was hanging, I doubt it would interfere. Only if you are about 3' tall and the dead guy is balled up near the ceiling. >It was unusable anyway. Would YOU use a lavatory that someone just >died in? There's a Chevron station that smelled like someone had. And you know what? I used it anyway. Dave >>It was unusable anyway. Would YOU use a lavatory that someone just >>died in? > > There's a Chevron station that smelled like someone had. And you know > what? I used it anyway. Before, or after? ;-) SignatureKeith > >Would YOU use a lavatory that someone just died in? > > There's a Chevron station that smelled like someone had. And you know > what? I used it anyway. Sometimes it's *really* nice being a guy, isn't it? <grin> >>It was unusable anyway. Would YOU use a lavatory that someone just >>died in? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dave How long does it take for the smell toi start? Unemployed psycho troll/netkook/pedophile Michael Voight "mrtravel" trolled: >>>It was unusable anyway. Would YOU use a lavatory that someone just >>>died in? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >How long does it take for the smell toi start? About as long as it takes your Russian mail order slut brides to leave your fat unemployed a.s once they get their green cards..... Usenet Public Message The "mrtravel" psycho: - is a 47 year old unemployed loser, alcoholic, drug addict/dealer - has been trolling usenet and flooding newsgroups for TWO DECADES - has been harassing and stalking usenet posters for TWO DECADES - is a known criminal, in trouble with the law since he was a teenager - has no life outside usenet, is online trolling/harassing/stalking 24/7 - is such a loser he often responds to posts within one or two minutes - is a known liar and bullshitter, lies about everything - was fired by Cisco in early 2005 for doing all of the above from work - likes to make death threats - is a known pedophile and child sexual predator - is a known importer of Russian whores looking for fast cheap green cards If you are one of his victims, report him to Scotts Valley police: Michael D. Voight, aka "mrtravel" 111 Bean Creek Rd, No. 118 Scotts Valley, CA 95066-4148 (831) 438-2485 Scotts Valley PD One Civic Center Drive Scotts Valley, CA 95066 (831) 440-5670 Police Chief Steve Lind s l i n d @ s c o t t s v a l l e y . o r g http://www.scottsvalleypd.com Also contact the Scotts Valley mayor: Paul Marigonda m a r i g o n d @ p a c b e l l . n e t About the "mrtravel" psycho - FAQ http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/f207022ace08c90c More info on the psycho http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/25a7ed8ad9d9d920 mrtravel's drug abuse http://groups-beta.google.com/group/ba.general/msg/f0c64751c93c3e2c mrtravel's wife left him http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.air/msg/6828ed1eb3843662 >>It was unusable anyway. Would YOU use a lavatory that someone just >>died in? > >There's a Chevron station that smelled like someone had. And you know >what? I used it anyway. "When ya gotta go, ya gotta go!" - Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park. SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave > >> That would be a bit much, but I'm sure they could have put him > >> in a plastic bag and stowed him in with the luggage. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > It was unusable anyway. Would YOU use a lavatory that someone just > died in? Hell, I have used a few that sure smelled that way - but when ya gotta go, ya gotta go. :O| : How would they have gotten him there? There's no easy access to : the cargo hold from the passenger compartment of an airliner. > What about the dumbwaiter in the galley? I've seen it used by people > to access the cargo hold in lots of movies... Hollywood. : They could've let him cool his heels (along with the rest of his : body) in the lavatory, but that would've rendered one of the lavs : unusable. > It was unusable anyway. Would YOU use a lavatory that someone just > died in? Sure. I've been in plenty of nastier restrooms that *live* people had used. Or they could've removed the body and belted it into a vacant seat. > And stink up the entire cabin? NFW!!! Decomposition is unlikely to set in during an interval that's typical of an airline flight. Geoff Signature"In modern theology, Purgatory is where you go if it's too crowded at Aspen." -- Alan Gore > Hey, I know! They could've dragged him up front and strapped him > into the cockpit jumpseat. The pilots could've retended that they > were being given a line check. ... or that another crewmember was "dead-heading"... >> That would be a bit much, but I'm sure they could have put him >> in a plastic bag and stowed him in with the luggage. > > How would they have gotten him there? There's no easy access to > the cargo hold from the passenger compartment of an airliner. You mean there's NO place on one of those big planes that a body could be stashed temporarily? I find that hard to believe. > Hey, I know! They could've dragged him up front and strapped him > into the cockpit jumpseat. The pilots could've retended that they > were being given a line check. Yeah, dragging an unconscious drunk up into the cockpit wouldn't have aroused a single smidgeon of suspicion. I guess saying "Shift change" would be even worse... SignatureCheers, Bev =========================================== Lawyering: the only profession that if you didn't have it you wouldn't need it. > >> That would be a bit much, but I'm sure they could have put him > >> in a plastic bag and stowed him in with the luggage. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You mean there's NO place on one of those big planes that a body could be > stashed temporarily? I find that hard to believe. Empty space = lost revenue. I hope that explains ! Graham >> >> That would be a bit much, but I'm sure they could have put him >> >> in a plastic bag and stowed him in with the luggage. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Empty space = lost revenue. I hope that explains ! Leave the cadaver in the John. There are more than one on any flight I've taken. Maybe the captain could anounce that "due to unforseen circumstanes, there won't be any more applications to the "mile-high" club taken". ...or maybe just turn on the "fasten seatbelt" sign. SignatureKeith -- Keith > The Real Bev wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Empty space = lost revenue. I hope that explains ! THINK -- nobody is going to pay to be stuffed into a storage cabinet for 6 hours even for 1/10 the price. SignatureCheers, Bev xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet." -- Anon. > >> >> That would be a bit much, but I'm sure they could have put him > >> >> in a plastic bag and stowed him in with the luggage. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > THINK -- nobody is going to pay to be stuffed into a storage cabinet for 6 > hours even for 1/10 the price. Hmmm............. Yous ure about that ? ;-) Graham >>>>>>That would be a bit much, but I'm sure they could have put him >>>>>>in a plastic bag and stowed him in with the luggage. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Graham I am sure people would be willing to pay money for a horizontal "storage cabinet" to sleep for a few hours. That kind of reminds me of a Japanese hotel I heard about many years ago. >I am sure people would be willing to pay money for a horizontal "storage >cabinet" to sleep for a few hours. That kind of reminds me of a >Japanese hotel I heard about many years ago. Not to mention old sleeper cars on steam trains... SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave > > >> That would be a bit much, but I'm sure they could have put him > > >> in a plastic bag and stowed him in with the luggage. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Empty space = lost revenue. I hope that explains ! I understand that corpses are considered to be unnecessary dead weight. :O| : How would they have gotten him there? There's no easy access to : the cargo hold from the passenger compartment of an airliner. > You mean there's NO place on one of those big planes that a body > could be stashed temporarily? I find that hard to believe. No place that hasn't already been mentioned, and that has its own disadvantages. On a widebody a stiff could be stashed in one of the downstairs galleys, but who'd want a dead body in the same space where food and drink are prepared? That'd be gnarsti. Some of the newer widebodies that are used on transoceanic flights have crew rest areas in out-of-the-way places. That'd be a possi- bility, I suppose. (Haven't 747s always had a room with a couple of bunks just aft of the cockpit, or am I thinking of C-5s?) Geoff Signature"Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back." -- Ann Coulter >No place that hasn't already been mentioned, and that has its own >disadvantages. On a widebody a stiff could be stashed in one of >the downstairs galleys, but who'd want a dead body in the same >space where food and drink are prepared? That'd be gnarsti. Two words: Garment Bag. SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. >> Gerald Georgettis was found in a bathroom aboard United Flight 209, >> which made an emergency landing at Denver International Airport on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >planeload full of people to be set down in Denver (probably didn't even bring >their skis) rather than wherever it was going? Of course - who wants to be in a plane that's all stunk up by a dead hunk of meat? SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave > What emergency? HE WAS DEAD! While I personally wouldn't have cared, I suspect that a lot of passengers wouldn't have wanted to remain airborne with a corpse aboard for any longer than absolutely necessary. Geoff Signature"It's a tough old fuckin' world out there, and if your self-image is based on how much respect you receive from me, you'd better just stick your head in the oven right now." -- Vinnie Jordan >> What emergency? HE WAS DEAD! > > While I personally wouldn't have cared, I suspect that a lot of > passengers wouldn't have wanted to remain airborne with a corpse > aboard for any longer than absolutely necessary. I doubt if it would have been necessary to tell them. Or perhaps they could have taken a vote on whether to eject him in an uninhabited area. Lots of mountains in Colorado and every once in a while a body turns up... SignatureCheers, Bev =========================================== Lawyering: the only profession that if you didn't have it you wouldn't need it. >>> What emergency? HE WAS DEAD! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > could have taken a vote on whether to eject him in an uninhabited area. > Lots of mountains in Colorado and every once in a while a body turns up... I've heard of burial at sea, but burial at air? > >>> What emergency? HE WAS DEAD! > >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I've heard of burial at sea, but burial at air? The Argentinian military were into that. They didn't wait for the subject to die before ejection though. Graham >>>> What emergency? HE WAS DEAD! >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I've heard of burial at sea, but burial at air? Many nautical customs are carried over into the world of aviation...... Burials at sea require the services of the holder of the largely honorific ship's billet of "Sailmaker", who sews the shroud in which the decedent is "enshrouded" (with - no cannonballs today - an inert 5" projectile or suitable weight betwixt the corpse's knees) prior to immersal. Traditionally, the sailmaker's last stitch passes through the nose of the 'deceased", a carryover from the days of cruder medical techniques, thought to be a sure fire method of determining whether death had actually occurred, since a big needle through the nose might reveive fakers or the lightly unconscious. Besides, who aboard an a/c would (a) have a bosun's pipe or (b) know the appropriate pipe for "Full fathom five" or in this case "Several miles high..." "Sheriff, I wuz a'walking down to the mailbox,and this guy jest landed right in the road with a loud splop...." TMO >>>> What emergency? HE WAS DEAD! >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I've heard of burial at sea, but burial at air? You're obviously not on the 'need to know' list. SignatureCheers, Bev xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet." -- Anon. >>>>> What emergency? HE WAS DEAD! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You're obviously not on the 'need to know' list. True. Besides, once the credit card transaction for the ticket clears, machts nicht to us. >>> What emergency? HE WAS DEAD! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > have taken a vote on whether to eject him in an uninhabited area. Lots of > mountains in Colorado and every once in a while a body turns up... Maybe D.B.Cooper doesn't want the company. SignatureKeith I have one work for this cross-posted, politically incorrect subject. PLONK! > North Miami Beach city worker kills self on flight to L.A. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13831219.htm > I have one work for this cross-posted, politically incorrect subject. > > PLONK! And to save space, you had to repeat the entire post?? That was good "word" by you. Unemployed psycho troll/netkook/pedophile Michael Voight "mrtravel" trolled: >> I have one work for this cross-posted, politically incorrect subject. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >That was good "word" by you. Hitting the bottle again? How many times have you been told drugs and alcohol don't mix............ Usenet Public Message The "mrtravel" psycho: - is a 47 year old unemployed loser, alcoholic, drug addict/dealer - has been trolling usenet and flooding newsgroups for TWO DECADES - has been harassing and stalking usenet posters for TWO DECADES - is a known criminal, in trouble with the law since he was a teenager - has no life outside usenet, is online trolling/harassing/stalking 24/7 - is such a loser he often responds to posts within one or two minutes - is a known liar and bullshitter, lies about everything - was fired by Cisco in early 2005 for doing all of the above from work - likes to make death threats - is a known pedophile and child sexual predator - is a known importer of Russian whores looking for fast cheap green cards If you are one of his victims, report him to Scotts Valley police: Michael D. Voight, aka "mrtravel" 111 Bean Creek Rd, No. 118 Scotts Valley, CA 95066-4148 (831) 438-2485 Scotts Valley PD One Civic Center Drive Scotts Valley, CA 95066 (831) 440-5670 Police Chief Steve Lind s l i n d @ s c o t t s v a l l e y . o r g http://www.scottsvalleypd.com Also contact the Scotts Valley mayor: Paul Marigonda m a r i g o n d @ p a c b e l l . n e t About the "mrtravel" psycho - FAQ http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/f207022ace08c90c More info on the psycho http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/25a7ed8ad9d9d920 mrtravel's drug abuse http://groups-beta.google.com/group/ba.general/msg/f0c64751c93c3e2c mrtravel's wife left him http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.air/msg/6828ed1eb3843662 <complete post and crosspost snips> Restoration of original subject for r.a.d. ----- - gpsman > Unemployed psycho troll/netkook/pedophile Michael Voight "mrtravel" trolled: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Hitting the bottle again? How many times have you been told drugs > and alcohol don't mix............ He used the word "work" instead of "word". My response used "word" instead of "work". Apparently you don't have enough brain cells to understand mrtravel wrote: <snipped> I wasn't busy... ----- gpsman >I have one work for this cross-posted, politically incorrect subject. > >PLONK! I have one word for this top-posting, non-quote-trimming, cross-posting, bandwidth-wasting moron: PLONK!!! SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave > I have one work for this cross-posted, politically incorrect subject. > > PLONK! And I have 4 words for you: "change your diaper lately?" :O| Hey, there ain't nuthin bad about the wonderful experience of buying a car, and thus: 10. People do like to get duped and raped in car deals. 9. Car dealers are terrific, friendly liars. 8. The 0 percent incentive to get that alluring 6 year financing is the best thing since the added-on mark-up. 7.--1. As that bragging good citizen & terrific service sign in the break room couldn't admit: "We just can't give the customer/mooch an even break, and be profitable." |
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