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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / March 2006red light camera
if u get a red light camera and it is not you in the picture, can the government legally force you to identify the driver?? this is in california. I dont run red lights. I think I was wronged by the camera. Scenario: The light is currently yellow, I'm driving and I can make the yellow, however, the car in front of me slams on the brakes in the intersection and stops. So I'm beyond the marker(stopped) and the camera takes a shot. I don't know how this will hold up in court..I think it would be better to avoid a ticket by using "wrong driver" > if u get a red light camera and it is not you in the picture, can the > government legally force you to identify the driver?? in practice, yes. If the driver is unclear but it is your car you either rat out the driver or pay the ticket. > this is in california. I dont run red lights. I think I was wronged by > the camera. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > camera takes a shot. I don't know how this will hold up in court..I > think it would be better to avoid a ticket by using "wrong driver" Are there points involved, or just a fine? If the latter, much as it sucks, it might be better for you to just pay the ticket (I know, I know, that's what they WANT you to do, but it will cost you less in the long run) nate CA law will give a point and the fine is over $300... so I definitely want to fight this. How can CA law force someone to identify the driver? Is there a law that states this? > CA law will give a point and the fine is over $300... so I definitely > want to fight this. > > How can CA law force someone to identify the driver? Is there a law > that states this? I was making a general statement based on how things work out here. It sounds like CA has an unusual law, so you should probably wait until someone with specific knowledge of CA chimes in. nate > > CA law will give a point and the fine is over $300... so I definitely > > want to fight this. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sounds like CA has an unusual law, so you should probably wait until > someone with specific knowledge of CA chimes in. Any questions about the law of the road in a specific state can usually be answered by looking up the info on the web site for that state's DMV. > if u get a red light camera and it is not you in the picture, can the > government legally force you to identify the driver?? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > camera takes a shot. I don't know how this will hold up in court..I > think it would be better to avoid a ticket by using "wrong driver" If there's another car in the intersection, the camera should show THAT car, also. It should be easy to get out of this ticket if you explain it that way, that you would have made it through before red if you hadn't been stopped by traffic. Or, it could back-fire on you. It depends on the reason that the vehicle ahead of you stopped. If it was predictable that the vehicle ahead of you would probably stop, then you were legally required NOT to enter the intersection at all, as you can't legally enter the intersection unless you are sure you can also EXIT it. -Dave >if u get a red light camera and it is not you in the picture, can the >government legally force you to identify the driver?? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >camera takes a shot. I don't know how this will hold up in court..I >think it would be better to avoid a ticket by using "wrong driver" There's a lot of options for you, really, if you really did not run the light. I assume you're in San Diego, from the 619 in your email address. If not, then I might be wrong, but San Diego is supposedly pretty generous when it comes to running a light. The San Diego cameras are only supposed to be tripped if you cross the line, on a red, after they power up and you're moving over 15 mph. If it was in Poway, Encinitas, Del Mar or any of the other sketchy cities around town you might be getting screwed badly though. More info on which RLC took the shot would be helpful. If it's a City of SD camera you might do well to take a video of someone else getting flashed, and check yellow timings to make sure they're not up to their old tricks. Dave --- http://www.davidphogan.com/sdroads Amature a.s(phalt) and more! SD Dave wrote: <brevity snip> > There's a lot of options for you, really, if you really did not run > the light. I assume you're in San Diego, from the 619 in your email > address. If not, then I might be wrong, but San Diego is supposedly > pretty generous when it comes to running a light. WTF?!?!? Generous?!?! The "Revenue Generation Machine" might not take this guy's money at the slightest opportunity? Stand back! Plonks a comin'... ----- - gpsman >SD Dave wrote: <brevity snip> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >- gpsman Troll, You've already proven how stupid you are, this is just icing. Read the word "supposedly" that you quoted, dumbfuck. Love, Dave --- http://www.davidphogan.com/sdroads Amature a.s(phalt) and more! >Scenario: The light is currently yellow, I'm driving and I can make the >yellow, however, the car in front of me slams on the brakes in the >intersection and stops. So I'm beyond the marker(stopped) and the >camera takes a shot. In that scenario, the camera would take a shot of the car that stopped in the middle of the intersection. Your car might be in the picture, but you shouldn't be the target of the fine.  SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave >if u get a red light camera and it is not you in the picture, can the >government legally force you to identify the driver?? No. But they will lie to you to try to get you to tell them. >this is in california. I dont run red lights. I think I was wronged by >the camera. Depedning on the law in your state, you can ignore the ticket if y >Scenario: The light is currently yellow, I'm driving and I can make the >yellow, however, the car in front of me slams on the brakes in the >intersection and stops. So I'm beyond the marker(stopped) and the >camera takes a shot. I don't know how this will hold up in court..I >think it would be better to avoid a ticket by using "wrong driver" The cameras will take more than one shot of you in the intersection. The follow up shots will show your car stopped at the intersection waiting for the light to change. You can probalby get off if that is what happened. It really depends on how greedy your town is. --------------- Alex |
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