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Restaurant owner gets no jail in crash death

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gpsman - 26 Apr 2006 14:20 GMT
Victim's family finds no solace in sentence
Restaurant owner gets no jail in crash death
BY SHEILA MCLAUGHLIN | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

WEST CHESTER TWP. - Scott Snow is better known for paying $13,000 to
buy one of Marge Schott's World Series trophies at auction last month
than he is for killing a man in a car crash earlier this year.

In a Butler County courtroom Tuesday, that's one detail the children of
Glen Saxbury wanted a judge to consider when Snow was sentenced to 120
hours of community service for Saxbury's death.

They felt Snow's gleeful appearance over the trophy on TV and in
newspapers March 31 showed that the 51-year-old restaurant owner had
moved on with his life without looking back at what he had done to
theirs.

"He was such a big part of all our lives," Janine Saxbury of Middletown
said of her father Tuesday. "It was just a bad time for (Snow) to speak
out publicly."

They also thought Snow should serve his hours speaking against cell
phones and driving - a combination police said contributed to Saxbury's
death Jan. 4.

The Saxburys walked away with a handshake and an apology from Snow, but
little else.

"I was hoping more would be said about cell-phone use being dangerous,"
Janine Saxbury said.

"Everywhere we go, someone's got their cell phone up to their ear and
they're driving," Dennis Saxbury added.

Snow, in a 2004 bright yellow Hummer, was reaching for his ringing
phone when he ran a red light at Muhlhauser Road and Centre Pointe
Drive and broadsided Glen Saxbury's van. The 71-year-old semiretired
systems analyst from Middletown was headed to lunch. He died instantly.

Snow pleaded no contest earlier to a misdemeanor charge of vehicular
manslaughter.

Hendrickson found him guilty.

The blonde and tanned owner of Buffalo Wild Wings Grill & Bar outlets
in three states spoke just six words in court Tuesday before learning
that the maximum 90-day jail sentence would be suspended.

"I'm just terribly sorry it happened," Snow told Judge Robert
Hendrickson of Butler County Area III Court.

Hendrickson had postponed sentencing the Maineville man from earlier
this month, saying he wanted to verify that Snow was receiving mental
health counseling since the crash and that he was sorry.

The judge said he was convinced of Snow's remorse after reading the
psychiatrist's report.

He rejected the Saxbury family's wish for Snow to become an activist
against talking on cell phones while driving, saying it was unethical.

"If the court was to do that, then I'm no longer the judicial branch of
government. I'd now be the legislative branch in trying to change the
laws here," Hendrickson said of the family's request. "I don't think
that would be proper for me to do that. There's the distinct separation
of powers here."

He wants the Saxbury family to choose the charities or nonprofit
organizations where Snow would serve his community service. They are
not sure what that will be.

Snow is expected to serve 20 hours a month and finish by mid-December,
Hendrickson said.

He already has paid nearly $1,000 in fines and court costs and will be
on probation for two years.

The Saxburys said they aren't sure yet what to make of Snow's apology.
They hope he is sincere.

"There's so many emotions," Janine Saxbury said. "He did say he was
sorry."

Snow declined to comment Tuesday.

He and his wife stood outside the courtroom talking with their
attorneys as the Saxburys turned to leave. He quickly broke away from
his group and headed in their direction before they reached the door.

He shook each of their hands. He asked them to send his condolences to
their mother.

* What a Prince!  Oh so "just terribly sorry it happened"... but can't
be bothered to deliver his own f.cking condolences...

Eat at Buffalo Wild Wings Grill & Bar!  There's no such thing as bad
publicity.

 -Sidebar-

Cell phones and driving

Cell-phone use was the most common distraction for drivers in crashes
and near-misses, according to a study released this month by the
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Drivers who dialed cell phones were three times more likely to crash.
That's about twice the risk factor of talking or listening on the phone
while driving or the same as reading or applying makeup.

Nearly 80 percent of crashes and 65 percent of near-crashes involved
some form of driver distraction within three seconds before the
incident.

Four states - Connecticut, the District of Columbia, New Jersey and New
York - ban talking on hand-held cell phones while driving.

Source: The 100-Car Study co-sponsored by NHTSA, Virginia
Transportation Research Council and Virginia Tech.
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060426/NEWS01/604260343/-1/all
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- gpsman
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE - 26 Apr 2006 19:11 GMT
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060426/NEWS01/604260343/-1/all

>Victim's family finds no solace in sentence
>Restaurant owner gets no jail in crash death
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>"I'm just terribly sorry it happened," Snow told Judge Robert
>Hendrickson of Butler County Area III Court.

(snip)

This is just awful. Pretty obvious the prosecutor was bought off to
reduce the charge to a misdemeanor and the judge was bought off to
suspend any jail time.  But the killer is a rich big shot and that
made all the difference.  This should have been felony manslaughter
and 20 years in the can.  The corruption and criminal coddling in
america are just unbelievable.
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. - 26 Apr 2006 21:43 GMT
>http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060426/NEWS01/604260343/-1/all
>
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>reduce the charge to a misdemeanor and the judge was bought off to
>suspend any jail time.

Actually, no.

It's not pretty obvious.

In fact, your claim verges on the absurd.

We just don't see that many prosecutors who take money for charging
decisions. We just don't see that many judces who take money for
results.

I would put the odds at about a thousand to one against.

But the killer is a rich big shot and that
>made all the difference.  This should have been felony manslaughter
>and 20 years in the can.  The corruption and criminal coddling in
>america are just unbelievable.
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend - 26 Apr 2006 23:04 GMT
> >This is just awful. Pretty obvious the prosecutor was bought off to
> >reduce the charge to a misdemeanor and the judge was bought off to
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> decisions. We just don't see that many judces who take money for
> results.

Well then, you're an idiot cause this stuff happens every day a million
times. You or I  would have gotten years of can time here, as is right.
OBC - 27 Apr 2006 01:04 GMT
> Well then, you're an idiot cause this stuff happens every day a million
> times. You or I  would have gotten years of can time here, as is right.

You think he's an idiot? You've got proof he fell for a april fool's
joke, retard?
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE - 27 Apr 2006 02:49 GMT
>> Well then, you're an idiot cause this stuff happens every day a million
>> times. You or I  would have gotten years of can time here, as is right.
>
>You think he's an idiot? You've got proof he fell for a april fool's
>joke, retard?

Hey stupid.  You're the one who fell for the April Fools joke  i
played on you and you're obviously still mad about it!!  HAHAHAHA
OsamaBinKennedy.20.dwpj65@spamgourmet.com - 27 Apr 2006 03:04 GMT
> >You think he's an idiot? You've got proof he fell for a april fool's
> >joke, retard?
>
> Hey stupid.  You're the one who fell for the April Fools joke  i
> played on you and you're obviously still mad about it!!  HAHAHAHA

Liar.

Like most of your posts, it was too rediculous to be credible. When I
followed the link, it said, in nice red letters, "April Fool's."
Obviously you're too stupid to recognize what "April Fool's" means.

But if you think I did fall for it, show me the message in that thread
where I DIDN'T point out to you that it was an April Fool's joke,
loser. :-)

I'll make it easy for you and point you towards the thread:

--

El Pollo Loco (Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend) demonstrates it's
complete gullibility, stupidity, and state of delusion when it falls
for an April Fool's joke, hook, line, and sinker:

> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/008d032d86999983?hl=en&

Ragnar wrote:
> Gods, you're dumb.  Its a rather obvious April Fool's joke.  And you're
> the Fool.

This is no joke. Bush has gotten away with stealing two elections and
blowing up WTC and lying america into war.  So don't put a third term
attempt past him. I mean who's gonna stop him. The democrats and the
media are totally bought off.
OsamaBinKennedy.20.dwpj65@spamgourmet.com - 27 Apr 2006 03:48 GMT
> >You think he's an idiot? You've got proof he fell for a april fool's
> >joke, retard?
>
> Hey stupid.  You're the one who fell for the April Fools joke  i
> played on you and you're obviously still mad about it!!  HAHAHAHA

Liar.

Like most of your posts, it was too rediculous to be credible. When I
followed the link, it said, in nice red letters, "April Fool's."
Obviously you're too stupid to recognize what "April Fool's" means.

But if you think I did fall for it, show me the message in that thread
where I DIDN'T point out to you that it was an April Fool's joke,
loser. :-)

I'll make it easy for you and point you towards the thread:

--

El Pollo Loco (Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend) demonstrates it's
complete gullibility, stupidity, and state of delusion when it falls
for an April Fool's joke, hook, line, and sinker:

> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/008d032d86999983?hl=en&

Ragnar wrote:
> Gods, you're dumb.  Its a rather obvious April Fool's joke.  And you're
> the Fool.

This is no joke. Bush has gotten away with stealing two elections and
blowing up WTC and lying america into war.  So don't put a third term
attempt past him. I mean who's gonna stop him. The democrats and the
media are totally bought off.
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. - 27 Apr 2006 03:53 GMT
>> >This is just awful. Pretty obvious the prosecutor was bought off to
>> >reduce the charge to a misdemeanor and the judge was bought off to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Well then, you're an idiot cause this stuff happens every day a million
>times.

Post proof.

You or I  would have gotten years of can time here, as is right.

for what?

I guarantee you no one gets years in jail for having an accident
because they reach for their cell phone and accidentally crash into
someone.

You are out of touch with reality.
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE - 27 Apr 2006 17:24 GMT
>I guarantee you no one gets years in jail for having an accident
>because they reach for their cell phone and accidentally crash into
>someone.

The guy ran a red light.  Can't you read? . And stop calling things
like this an accident. This death was entirely the fault of the rich
dood.
gpsman - 27 Apr 2006 18:14 GMT
> >I guarantee you no one gets years in jail for having an accident
> >because they reach for their cell phone and accidentally crash into
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> like this an accident. This death was entirely the fault of the rich
> dood.

It might appear that way, but nobody knows for sure.  For example, we
have no way of knowing if the dead driver violated any law/s that might
have placed him in the exact spot at the exact moment he was struck.

If so, (and, for the benefit of those who are "differently-abled" in
the reading comprehension department I'm not saying I know one way or
the other) he would bear some, however little, responsibility for the
crash.

I think the courts understand that driving is an inherently dangerous
activity and to expect all drivers to operate without error and thereby
avoid all crashes would be a little unrealistic.

I think very few crashes are the result of gross negligence.  A human
being has an attention span and a limit of performing the
evaluations/sec. and multiple operations and decision making necessary
to drive safely and often needs a "break".

If you've driven for any length of time you have found yourself "waking
up" while driving having lost the last few minutes.  The activity of
driving exceeds the ability of the brain to process the flood of high
speed information it receives every second and sometimes that ability
can vary.

By the time a person reaches x years of age the response to a ringing
telephone can be practically involuntary reflex.  Your brain can
disconnect from driving because you usually aren't driving when your
phone rings, maybe.

None of which excuses this driver or makes his sentence not obviously
too lenient, but I think there are "matters of extenuation and
mitigation" in practically every "accidental" crash not the result of
"willful and wanton" negligence.

That's why you can't lock up every driver involved in a fatal or
serious crash forever.

Hope this helps.
-----

- gpsman
TedKennedyMurderedHisPregnantMistress.dwpj65@spamgourmet.com - 27 Apr 2006 23:13 GMT
> Can't you read? . And stop calling things

Did you ever figure out what "April Fool's" meant, el pollo loco?

> like this an accident. This death was entirely the fault of the rich
> dood.

Exactly. And yet he still gets to keep his senatorial seat.

Oh, we weren't talking about Tubby Kennedy, were we?

--

El Pollo Loco (Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend) demonstrates it's
complete gullibility, stupidity, and state of delusion when it falls
for an April Fool's joke, hook, line, and sinker:

> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/008d032d86999983?hl=en&

Ragnar wrote:
> Gods, you're dumb.  Its a rather obvious April Fool's joke.  And you're
> the Fool.

This is no joke. Bush has gotten away with stealing two elections and
blowing up WTC and lying america into war.  So don't put a third term
attempt past him. I mean who's gonna stop him. The democrats and the
media are totally bought off.
OBC - 27 Apr 2006 01:54 GMT
> >This is just awful. Pretty obvious the prosecutor was bought off to
> >reduce the charge to a misdemeanor and the judge was bought off to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> In fact, your claim verges on the absurd.

Absurd? That's EPL's mantra. Of course, EPL fell hook line and sinker
for an april fool's joke that was labeled as such, so no surprise EPL
would be delusional enough to believe the prosecutor would be bribed.
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim - 26 Apr 2006 23:39 GMT
at least he didn't have tinted windows on his car, so no problem, that's
probably why he was let off so easy because he didn't committ the ultimate
crime of having tinted windows on his car
Alex Rodriguez - 28 Apr 2006 20:56 GMT
They need to file a civil suit against the idiot.  Taking his cash will make
him take notice of his stupidity.  
----------------
Alex
 
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