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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / April 2006Right turn signal required on green traffic light?
Hi, I just got ticketed for making a right turn on GREEN light without turning my right-turn-signal light on. Does anyone know if turning signal is mandatory in California? Even when the traffic light is green on your direction? Thanks, Ken > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Does anyone know if turning signal is mandatory in California? Even > when the traffic light is green on your direction? What happened? Did you forget to change your blinker fluid? > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks, > Ken Turn signals are required for all turns. It doesn't matter if the turn is LEGAL or not. In this case, the turn would have probably been legal, if you'd bothered to put your signal on. But as you didn't signal, you got the ticket you earned. -Dave >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > you'd bothered to put your signal on. But as you didn't signal, you got > the ticket you earned. -Dave Makes me wonder if Ken learned to drive in the South. They tend to not use their turn signals in the South and the police there ignore it...  SignatureMr. Transmission Sucks! http://mrtransmissionsucks.com >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Turn signals are required for all turns. That is not true in California. Vehicle Code section 22107 requires use of turn signals only when other vehicles would be affected by the turn. The law is the same in Massachusetts where I live. Many other states do require unnecessary use of turn signals. SignatureJohn Carr (jfc@mit.edu) > That is not true in California. Vehicle Code section 22107 > requires use of turn signals only when other vehicles would > be affected by the turn. The law is the same in Massachusetts > where I live. Many other states do require unnecessary use > of turn signals. Like the cop behind him or any number of other drivers at that intersection. >> That is not true in California. Vehicle Code section 22107 >> requires use of turn signals only when other vehicles would [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Like the cop behind him or any number of other drivers at that > intersection. Don't forget the drivers, pedestrians, motorcyclists, etc., that the driver HAD NOT SEEN YET. -Dave > >Turn signals are required for all turns. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > where I live. Many other states do require unnecessary use > of turn signals. So now you're left arguing the meaning of "affected". If I had to gamble a couple hundred bucks and some points on my license that I can convince a judge that anyone seeing my turn signal is "unaffected", I'd just use the signal. In fact, I do. As far as Massachusetts is concerned, common practice throughout New England not only mandates that one NOT SIGNAL a right turn but that one NEVER STOP before making one, regardless of the current coloration of any traffic signals in the vicinity. Ask the *first* rear bumper of my old Toyota how I know this. -- C.R. Krieger (foolish enough to believe that 'right turn on red after stopping' actually means that) It happened at 5:30 am when the streets were practically empty (except for the cop hiding on one of the side street). Ken. > > >Turn signals are required for all turns. > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > (foolish enough to believe that 'right turn on red after stopping' > actually means that) > It happened at 5:30 am when the streets were practically empty (except > for the cop hiding on one of the side street). > > Ken. It doesn't matter what happened. The fact is, you did not see and COULD not see all the traffic and potential traffic around you. That is when it is most important to use the signal. That is, ALWAYS, as you can never be 100% sure that you have seen ALL traffic around you. -Dave >> It happened at 5:30 am when the streets were practically empty (except >> for the cop hiding on one of the side street). [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >most important to use the signal. That is, ALWAYS, as you can never be 100% >sure that you have seen ALL traffic around you. -Dave So you think police ticket law-abiding drivers whose legal driving you happen to disapprove of? I bet a cop could find something to throw you in jail for if freed from the requirement that he only arrest you for illegal acts. SignatureJohn Carr (jfc@mit.edu) Remember it's close to the end of the month. Cops need to meet their quota for the month. They can always find something wrong with every driver. What can you say? They are crook. Royal > >> It happened at 5:30 am when the streets were practically empty (except > >> for the cop hiding on one of the side street). [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > find something to throw you in jail for if freed from > the requirement that he only arrest you for illegal acts. >> It happened at 5:30 am when the streets were practically empty (except >> for the cop hiding on one of the side street). [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >most important to use the signal. That is, ALWAYS, as you can never be 100% >sure that you have seen ALL traffic around you. -Dave Does the cop hiding in the bushes count as traffic? ----------------- Alex >>> Hi, >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > where I live. Many other states do require unnecessary use > of turn signals. Why even worry if the signal is necessary or not. Just signal for all turns or lane changes; you'll never be wrong -- and you won't have to think about it. >>>> Does anyone know if turning signal is mandatory in California? Even >>>> when the traffic light is green on your direction? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >for all turns or lane changes; you'll never be wrong -- and you >won't have to think about it. For some reason, it's "uncool" or "too much work" or something equally lame for some people to use their turn signals. OTOH, other people think that by turning on their signal you are REQUIRED to yield the right-of-way to them, even if it means you have to slam on your brakes. One thing you almost never see here in SoCal is the use of a turn signal when entering or exiting a freeway. I think I may be the only driver in the entire state who does it. ;) SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Does anyone know if turning signal is mandatory in California? Even > when the traffic light is green on your direction? What puzzles me is why you think it's acceptable *not* to use an indicator in such a situation. Graham > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks, > Ken DUH,that's what turn signals are FOR,when you -make a turn- !!! USE THEM. (suppose a person was going to cross the street,and seeing no turn signal,thinks you are going straight,and walks out in your path?) They also let people behind you know what you are doing,why you are slowing,for instance. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Does anyone know if turning signal is mandatory in California? Even > when the traffic light is green on your direction? Is this a troll or a window on the 'I used my turn signal so you must yield to me' mentality? Signals are to be used when other traffic is present, period. Signaling is not something you just do to get someone to move out of your way, in fact your signal creates no such obligation upon others. > Signals are to be used when other traffic is present, period. You're close. Signals are to be used at all times, because you aren't always aware of all the "other" traffic around you, no matter how carefully you try to maintain 360 degree awareness. If you don't see any traffic around you, it is even MORE IMPORTANT that you signal, to potentially alert someone you DO NOT SEE. -Dave >> Signals are to be used when other traffic is present, period. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > around you, it is even MORE IMPORTANT that you signal, to potentially alert > someone you DO NOT SEE. -Dave Yep. That's the meaning I was hinting at. There is always other traffic. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks, > Ken Since you got a ticket I think the answer is obvious. Common sense, courtesy, concern about the safety of others and self-interest would dictate the use of turn signals at all times. It's a good habit to get into. >Hi, >I just got ticketed for making a right turn on GREEN light without >turning my right-turn-signal light on. >Does anyone know if turning signal is mandatory in California? Even >when the traffic light is green on your direction? this question explains a lot of the poor driving I see. ------------ Alex |
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