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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / June 2006Sloth Wastes Road Capacity
Took the family up to Pasadena yesterday (we had dinner at Houston's - fascinating place). Since the 710 extension tunnels are not built yet, we too the 5 up to the 605 and the 210 across - the Arroyo Seco alternative is just scary. :) Anyway, I noticed a larger than usual number of -10 Sloths on the roads yesterday. Like the proverbial stone in the stream, cars in the lane behind the Sloth are pinned down by full-speed traffic whizzing past in the adjacent lanes, so traffic backs up behind the Sloth and a HUGE empty space develops in front. Occasionally there would be 2 or even 3 of these jerkoffs driving side-by-side, forming a rolling roadblock just like the one those college punks in Atlanta created a few months back. And then there are the well-known safety issues caused by Sloth. Drivers pinned behind a Sloth desperately want to escape. They become angry (Claybrookian PC types call this "Road Rage"), and may take greater risks. In addition to a waste of capacity, Sloth is a rolling road hazard. Sloth Kills! It should be obvious that the number of cars that will pass any given reference point on the road will be fewer in the Sloth lanes than in the lanes where everyone is driving at the common speed of traffic - kinda like a bathroom sink with a hair clog drains more slowly than a sink with an unobstructed drain. So why the big hue and cry to widen freeways? Wider roads take years to build, reduce capacity while under construction, cost billions of dollars, and destroy neighborhoods and animal habitat. Wouldn't it be cheaper to simply get rid of the capacity-sapping Sloth drivers, either through better training or, if they just can't get it, revocation of their licenses (or, at the very least, restricting them to surface streets)? Outlaw Sloth and overnight our roads will become safer and have more usable capacity - all at a fraction of the cost of widening.  SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave > Took the family up to Pasadena yesterday (we had dinner at Houston's - > fascinating place). Since the 710 extension tunnels are not built yet, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Outlaw Sloth and overnight our roads will become safer and have more > usable capacity - all at a fraction of the cost of widening. In short, these people are stealing road throughput to which you have a right. I suggest a technological modification to their cars to prevent them from slowing down. If they get all bent out of shape because they "need to stop," just remind them they'll run out of gas eventually. > I suggest a technological modification to their cars to prevent them > from slowing down. If they get all bent out of shape because they "need > to stop," just remind them they'll run out of gas eventually. Forced lane changes to the right would be just fine. > > I suggest a technological modification to their cars to prevent them > > from slowing down. If they get all bent out of shape because they "need > > to stop," just remind them they'll run out of gas eventually. > > Forced lane changes to the right would be just fine. My reading is that the OP is not content to accept anything but maximum throughput in every lane. > > > I suggest a technological modification to their cars to prevent them > > > from slowing down. If they get all bent out of shape because they "need [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > My reading is that the OP is not content to accept anything but maximum > throughput in every lane. The OP is a psychopath and loves killing innocent people with his speeding. Laura Bush murdered her boy friend shitted in rec.autos.driving: > The OP is a psychopath and loves killing innocent people with his > speeding. Post a cite where the OP has been convicted of killing anyone, buttmunch. SignatureLoco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend defends a known *DRUNK DRIVER*: "Teddy went off a single lane bridge with no guard rail at night. The real killer was the idiot who built the bridge. Next question." --Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE June 20th, 2006 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/zlnyz Message ID: qcch92lislem5sqq92qgf7hf9mlm847sgh@4ax.com >Laura Bush murdered her boy friend shitted in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Post a cite where the OP has been convicted of killing anyone, >buttmunch. > laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Post a cite where the OP has been convicted of killing anyone, > >buttmunch. Talking to yourself, loser? Damn, it must suck to be you! Signature-- "There's not a shred of evidence that the jerries murdered anything close to 7 million jooz. Another monstrous lie just like the 9-11 official story. " -- Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend, 12/01/2004 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/9oog5 Message-ID: <780ea958.0411302101.5ef25456@posting.google.com> >> > > I suggest a technological modification to their cars to prevent them >> > > from slowing down. If they get all bent out of shape because they "need [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >The OP is a psychopath and loves killing innocent people with his >speeding. You a DAYAM LIE!! SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave >> > I suggest a technological modification to their cars to prevent them >> > from slowing down. If they get all bent out of shape because they "need [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >My reading is that the OP is not content to accept anything but maximum >throughput in every lane. Well yeah, sloth idiots frequently read it that way. >> > I suggest a technological modification to their cars to prevent them >> > from slowing down. If they get all bent out of shape because they "need [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >My reading is that the OP is not content to accept anything but maximum >throughput in every lane. While that would be ideal, there is room for compromise. SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave > sink with an unobstructed drain. So why the big hue and cry to widen > freeways? Wider roads take years to build, reduce capacity while under [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > they just can't get it, revocation of their licenses (or, at the very > least, restricting them to surface streets)? And it only will take one more sloth for each additional lane to screw up the widened road. And the number of sloth drivers will always outpace the number of lanes. However, I see I am making a difference. I was roundly critized in this group for posing this same premise some years ago. > Outlaw Sloth and overnight our roads will become safer and have more > usable capacity - all at a fraction of the cost of widening. Hence the premise of my road theory, which I call "The roads we have". Although we have a new wildcard as the globalist serving democrats and republicans move towards open boarders and adding over 100,000,000 people to the population. This will make traffic horrid in much of the nation even if strict KRETP were followed. >And it only will take one more sloth for each additional lane to screw up >the widened road. And the number of sloth drivers will always outpace the >number of lanes. Precisely. Which is yet another reason why we will NEVER be able to build our way out of traffic congestion. Maximizing efficiency is our only hope of avoiding complete gridlock by 2025. >However, I see I am making a difference. I was roundly critized in this >group for posing this same premise some years ago. No doubt by those very same Sloths who are sapping our road capacity with their arrogant insistence on driving too slowly. >> Outlaw Sloth and overnight our roads will become safer and have more >> usable capacity - all at a fraction of the cost of widening. > >Hence the premise of my road theory, which I call "The roads we have". Catchy - I like it! SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave Scott en Aztlán wrote: <brevity snip> > Like the proverbial stone in the stream, cars in the > lane behind the Sloth are pinned down by full-speed traffic whizzing > past in the adjacent lanes Only drivers who fail to keep their eyes and minds far enough in front of their vehicles would find this a problem. > Outlaw Sloth and overnight our roads will become safer and have more > usable capacity - all at a fraction of the cost of widening. Alternatively, we could line the highways with speed traps and cite all the speediots. That would create a much more open and pleasant driving experience for everyone... even the scofflaws once they come to their senses. ----- - gpsman > Scott en Aztlán wrote: <brevity snip> > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > - gpsman you are really suggesting writing tickets to 95% plus of the drivers on the road??? How many police officers are you planning on hiring???? nate >you are really suggesting writing tickets to 95% plus of the drivers on >the road??? If that's what it takes to speed these Sloths up, so be it. >How many police officers are you planning on hiring???? The cost of just a single lane-mile of new/widened freeway will pay for a SHITLOAD of new traffic cops. SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave >Took the family up to Pasadena yesterday (we had dinner at Houston's - >fascinating place). Since the 710 extension tunnels are not built yet, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >Outlaw Sloth and overnight our roads will become safer and have more >usable capacity - all at a fraction of the cost of widening. Slow drivers are patriots and speeders are psychopaths. That's a fact. laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE puked: > Slow drivers are patriots and speeders are psychopaths. That's a fact. Prove it. Otherwise, STFU, crossposting scum! SignatureAunt Judy demonstrates its lack of understanding of the concept of "</killfile>," and "<killfile>," and what a "thread," is: "Now that takes nerve. You claim to killfile me TWICE in the same thread and you expect people to take you seriously???" Ref: http://tinyurl.com/r5qp9 > Slow drivers are patriots and speeders are psychopaths. That's a fact. No, that's an opinion. >> Slow drivers are patriots and speeders are psychopaths. That's a fact. > >No, that's an opinion. Maybe calling slow drivers patriots is an opinion but speeders kill and maim people constantly in american and that makes their psychopathology a fact. > >> Slow drivers are patriots and speeders are psychopaths. That's a fact. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and maim people constantly in american and that makes their > psychopathology a fact. Not all speeders kill others. Not all speeders maim others in instance of a collision. In fact, speeders may not always be the ones who initiate contact in a collision. Drivers who perform under the speed limit can cause the exact same killing and maiming. A driver who swerves at the speed limit can cause an accident that kills or maims others. Same for those who drive under the speed-limit. For everyone who decides to willingly and excessively speed, there are other who are willing and excessively drive under the posted speed-limit. That's America--the general majority and generally minority are protected. Generally speaking, those who drastically disrupt the bell-curve are those who get punished by police. Speeders, non-speeders and those who travel under-the-speed-limit all apply. Prima facie seems to be standard, even if the law may not explicitly state so in the region-of-interest. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule in law enforcement. Nor would I presume that those who exceed the speed limit to be psychopathic. Not all people who exceed the speed-limit are antisocial, which is a fundamental definition of the psychopathological disorders defined in the psychlogical field. As I'm a psychology student, I consistently reference the DSM-IV manual. Excessive speed does not explicitly correlate to any psychopathologies, so your statement is of no objective basis. Any one psychologist that tries to define speeding as a disorder is looking for a name for him or herself and a few quick bucks along the way, as far as I am concerned. Carl Rogers wrote: <brevity snip/groups adjusted> > As I'm a psychology > student, I consistently reference the DSM-IV manual. Excessive speed > does not explicitly correlate to any psychopathologies, so your > statement is of no objective basis. You omitted a cite of the DSM-IV Manual for your findings... ----- - gpsman >Carl Rogers wrote: <brevity snip/groups adjusted> >> As I'm a psychology [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >You omitted a cite of the DSM-IV Manual for your findings... You can't cite what isn't there. SignatureThere's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. Carl, It's not even worth responding to the troll. You're much too intelligent to be wasting your time with him/her. Are there any plans for a Bay Area roadgeek meeting, later this year? -Peace Out, Brent > > >> Slow drivers are patriots and speeders are psychopaths. That's a fact. > > > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > looking for a name for him or herself and a few quick bucks along the > way, as far as I am concerned. > Carl, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Brent Hey Brent, How goes it? Thanks for the compliment--honestly, I occasionally have a soft-spot for helping others whose viewpoints seem narrow. In some way, I hope that a difference may be possibly be made for the given individual. Honestly, it doesn't seem like anything can help LBVH, so yeah--a lot of that energy is probably falling onto deaf ears. Switching gears... Onto the fun stuff: Would you be free for a SoCal meet in August sometime? It'll be a weekend gig and you're definitely welcome. A couple guys from prominent highway-sites will join. It'll be in Riverside County, not far from some historic routes and plenty of freeways. Bring the camera(s)! Shoot me an e-mail if interested :-) Cheers, Carl Rogers ----------------- Calrog.com, Pictures of Highway Shields: http://hwy-shields.calrog.com Highway Shield & Travel Literature: http://www.lulu.com/calrog-bookstore > Carl, > > It's not even worth responding to the troll. You're much too > intelligent to be wasting your time with him/her. "Much too intelligent??" *snicker* Jason rule in law >enforcement. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >does not explicitly correlate to any psychopathologies, so your >statement is of no objective basis. Excessive speed IS a psychopathology same as being a murderer or rapist is .Speeders have no concern for the safety of others on the highways. They like to kill. You don't want to admit it because you're a speeder yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Laura Homicide wrote: > rule in law >> enforcement. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > highways. They like to kill. You don't want to admit it because > you're a speeder yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Actually, it's been clinically proven several times over that excessive use of exclamation points (or other similar punctuation) causes more death and injury than speeders on a highway. Thus, it would be in your best interest "Laura" to immediately apologize to the families of the victims killed from your inexcusable use of not two, not three, but EIGHTEEN exclamation points! (Holy Jesus, Lord help us all!) Oh, and this'll get your panties in a bunch: I live and drive in Michigan where the posted speed is 70 mph and most folks on the free- way do 75-80 or more. Oh, and this'll REALLY make your head spin: not only have fatalities DECREASED on our freeways here since the speed limit was raised, but the Michigan STATE POLICE in conjunction with the Michigan DOT have just raised the speed limit on more urban free- ways around the state to 65 or 70 mph as well. The police themselves state that it has been proven that a large speed differential is MUCH worse than drivers exceeding the speed limit, especially an UNDER- POSTED speed limit! Just thought you'd get a kick out of those facts. I know I do... Later, Chris SignatureChris Bessert Bessert1@aol.com http://www.michiganhighways.org http://www.wisconsinhighways.org http://www.ontariohighways.org >Oh, and this'll get your panties in a bunch: I live and drive in >Michigan where the posted speed is 70 mph and most folks on the free- [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >the Michigan DOT have just raised the speed limit on more urban free- >ways around the state to 65 or 70 mph as well. The issue of speed and death rates was settled back in 1974 when the national speed limit was dropped to 55 and immediately highway deaths fell by 16 %. >The police themselves >state that it has been proven that a large speed differential is MUCH >worse than drivers exceeding the speed limit, Fine - but speed differentials are not cause by slow drivers since very very vew people do less than the SL. They are obviously caused by the speeders!! So stop contradicting yourself. laura VEHICULAR wrote: >> Oh, and this'll get your panties in a bunch: I live and drive in >> Michigan where the posted speed is 70 mph and most folks on the free- [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > national speed limit was dropped to 55 and immediately highway deaths > fell by 16 %. I'm really not going to debate this with you -- you seem to not want to join the rest of us in the real world, after all -- but anyone else here clearly knows 2006 is NOT 1974. Cars have changed. Roads have changed. Habits have changed. Society has changed. Some changes for the better, some worse. But for someone to cite something that happened over THIRTY years ago when the surrounding factors have so changed is obviously not smart. I prefer to respond to modern day factors and conditions rather than hang my hat on what may have hap- pened when Nixon was president... >> The police themselves >> state that it has been proven that a large speed differential is MUCH [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > very very vew people do less than the SL. They are obviously caused > by the speeders!! Actually, the truth is that the speed differentials I noted ARE caused by slow drivers. In Michigan, truck speeds are currently limited to 55 mph on ALL freeways, while automobile limits can be 60, 65 or 70 at the same time. (This legally-mandated differential of up to 15 mph -- for those following the posted limits! -- is about to be narrowed to 10 mph when the truck limits are bumped to 60 soon.) So, those truckers who ARE following the law and driving no faster than the posted limit -- much SLOWER than the rest of traffic -- are causing the dangerous situation. This is why most truckers do 60-65, as it is safer. The State Police, MDOT and State Legislature agree and, thus, the speed limit is going UP to increase safety. > So stop contradicting yourself. If you can point out where I contradicted myself -- taking note of the FACTS I have listed above, I'll give you a gold star. Otherwise, I really cannot rationalize wasting time on someone who 'shouts' at the top of his/her lungs about "criminal coddlers" and "murders", ignoring reality and proven scientific fact -- especially when it undermines your shouted statements. You seem to be universally ridiculed here, so I'm really at a loss to come up with your strategy. You seem to convince more people that speeding is alright than not with your incoherent rantings and illogical statements. Either you are bored and need a hobby (or boy/girlfriend) or you have some pretty major mental issues. I really don't want to lob insults, but after seeing what you post here on USENET, there really aren't many other reasonable conclusions. Good Day, Chris SignatureChris Bessert Bessert1@aol.com http://www.michiganhighways.org http://www.wisconsinhighways.org http://www.ontariohighways.org Chris Bessert wrote: <brevity snip/groups adjusted> > Those truckers who ARE following the law and > driving no faster than the posted limit -- much SLOWER than the > rest of traffic -- are causing the dangerous situation. Dangerous disparities of the velocities of traffic are caused by drivers in compliance with the speed limit? Following that reasoning indicates that lane change crashes are caused by drivers using their turn signals. Rear-end coliisions must be caused by having operable brake lights. Bank robberies must be caused by the people who don't rob banks... ----- - gpsman > Chris Bessert wrote: <brevity snip/groups adjusted> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Dangerous disparities of the velocities of traffic are caused by > drivers in compliance with the speed limit? According to the police who lobbied for the SL change, YES. -Dave > > Chris Bessert wrote: <brevity snip/groups adjusted> > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > According to the police who lobbied for the SL change, YES. Then there must be a media report covering LEO's lobbying for that increased limit, that would be some interesting and welcome news. If it was posted here, I missed it. How did you hear about it? ----- - gpsman >>> Chris Bessert wrote: <brevity snip/groups adjusted> >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > increased limit, that would be some interesting and welcome news. If > it was posted here, I missed it. How did you hear about it? IIRC, there was something about it in the "News from around the country" section of a recent issue of the NMA magazine. Signature~/Garth |"I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. ******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant." (pgp@v6stang.com for secure mail info) --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) > Either you are bored and need a hobby (or boy/girlfriend) or you > have some pretty major mental issues. I really don't want to lob [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Good Day, > Chris Just because you haven't posted on MTR in over a month Chris, doesn't mean you have to make up for it in one day. ;-P Go play in the "Right to Drive" thread. Kevin & Scott need a breather. SignatureSandor Gulyas Graduate Student - Louisiana St. University Dept. of Geography & Anthropology "Nobody left to do the crazy things we used to do before Nobody left to run with anymore" No One To Run With -- (Performed by) Allman Brothers Band (1995) > > Either you are bored and need a hobby (or boy/girlfriend) or you > > have some pretty major mental issues. I really don't want to lob [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > you have to make up for it in one day. ;-P > Go play in the "Right to Drive" thread. Kevin & Scott need a breather. Egad. You don't mean there are actually other people *reading* that thread, do you! If I weren't in it, I'd have ignored it three months ago! >laura VEHICULAR wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >to join the rest of us in the real world, after all -- but anyone else >here clearly knows 2006 is NOT 1974. Cars have changed. Roads have If you are going to debate a troll, at least make sure to understand the facts first. You don't need to do much more than read a few responses to this bitch to learn that while there was a decrease due to passenger miles, the death rate has continued to decrease every year since 1974 even though speeds have increased by a huge amount. Failure to point this out could result in some moron reading trollbitch's posts and thinking she actually has a point. > rule in law > >enforcement. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > highways. They like to kill. You don't want to admit it because > you're a speeder yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah right, like you who toss rocks at other cars. If you want to see a psycopath, look in mirror. >> rule in law >> >enforcement. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Yeah right, like you who toss rocks at other cars. If you want to see >a psycopath, look in mirror. People have a right to defend themselves from deadly tailgaters. Stop worrying about these psychopathic TGers, you coddler. > Anyway, I noticed a larger than usual number of -10 Sloths on the > roads yesterday. Like the proverbial stone in the stream, cars in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > roadblock just like the one those college punks in Atlanta created a > few months back. I consider it my duty to lane split on my motorcycle between them. This often wakes up the drivers and they speed up and quit locking onto the speed of the car next to them They are essentially driving on auto pilot not realizing what is going on around them. Lane splitting past them at a good speed invariably kicks them out of autopilot. > I consider it my duty to lane split on my motorcycle between them. This > often wakes up the drivers and they speed up and quit locking onto the speed [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > around them. Lane splitting past them at a good speed invariably kicks > them out of autopilot. How do they "lock on to the speed of the car next to them" while "not realizing what is going on around them"? I agree that most drivers are oblivious to anything more than 2 car lengths to their front, disagree that they pace the vehicle to their L or R. ----- - gpsman > How do they "lock on to the speed of the car next to them" while "not > realizing what is going on around them"? I agree that most drivers are [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > - gpsman A little on-freeway experimentation shows that they take cues from their surroundings unconsciously. So they don't really notice the car ahead/next to them, but they adjust their speed to keep 'em in the same spot. Dave > > How do they "lock on to the speed of the car next to them" while "not > > realizing what is going on around them"? I agree that most drivers are [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Dave Sloth and speeders are identical in two ways (at least): both are equally dangerous to those driving at a reasonable (or posted) speed, and both are fueled by pure, unadulterated selfishness. >Sloth and speeders are identical in two ways (at least): both are >equally dangerous to those driving at a reasonable (or posted) speed, >and both are fueled by pure, unadulterated selfishness. Don't be such a fuckwit. "Speeders" are not an issue at all, as they tend to move WITH TRAFFIC and thus not pass anybody EXCEPT FOR YOU SLOTHS. Further, the statement that speeders are selfish is ludicrous unless you consider it selfish to act in a manner which reduces the chance of accidents. > >Sloth and speeders are identical in two ways (at least): both are > >equally dangerous to those driving at a reasonable (or posted) speed, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > unless you consider it selfish to act in a manner which reduces the > chance of accidents. My definition of speeder is this...if the speed limit is 70, and the traffic is flowing at 80, the speeder is the nitwit who has to get his 90 out of the way or know the reason why. I normally drive about 5 or sometimes 10 over, is that still sloth in your area? > My definition of speeder is this...if the speed limit is 70, and the > traffic is flowing at 80, the speeder is the nitwit who has to get his > 90 out of the way or know the reason why. I normally drive about 5 or > sometimes 10 over, is that still sloth in your area? It is in some areas. Near me, there is a 55MPH multi-lane divided highway, where less than 80MPH is suicidally or homicidally dangerous. -Dave >My definition of speeder is this...if the speed limit is 70, and the >traffic is flowing at 80, the speeder is the nitwit who has to get his >90 out of the way or know the reason why. I normally drive about 5 or >sometimes 10 over, is that still sloth in your area? Around here the SL is 65, cops won't even look at you until you exceed 75, and the 85th percentile is around 85. So yes, your 80 MPH is borderline Sloth, although as long as you keep to the right nobody is going to complain. SignatureWhat the heck, I'll play too. - Dave > >My definition of speeder is this...if the speed limit is 70, and the > >traffic is flowing at 80, the speeder is the nitwit who has to get his [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > What the heck, I'll play too. > - Dave All trivial...I spent two tours in the Middle East where the posted speed limit is 120 km/h (75 for us)...Anything under 150 km/h is sloth there when many drivers go 170-200. >All trivial...I spent two tours in the Middle East where the posted >speed limit is 120 km/h (75 for us)...Anything under 150 km/h is sloth >there when many drivers go 170-200. Abu Dhabi police recently warned drivers that the 160 km/h speed limit would be strictly enforced with speed cameras. SignatureJohn Carr (jfc@mit.edu) >I consider it my duty to lane split on my motorcycle between them. This >often wakes up the drivers and they speed up and quit locking onto the speed [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >around them. Lane splitting past them at a good speed invariably kicks >them out of autopilot. And serves another purpose, it reduces the traffic on Usenet eventually. > Took the family up to Pasadena yesterday (we had dinner at Houston's - > fascinating place). Since the 710 extension tunnels are not built yet, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Anyway, I noticed a larger than usual number of -10 Sloths on the > roads yesterday Are they in the nearside lane or sitting in the middle lanes? In the UK we call this MLOC - Middle Lane Owners Club. > Outlaw Sloth and overnight our roads will become safer and have more > usable capacity - all at a fraction of the cost of widening. > -- > What the heck, I'll play too. > - Dave OK, fine. Just make sure you don't enforce anti-sloth laws any better than anti-speeding laws are enforced. In which case, you won't have accomplished anything. And put some numbers on it. "-10" under the limit, or -10 of the "common speed". Ticket the speeders first. That'll stop the bunching up. The throughput issue is just a red herring. > The throughput issue is just a red herring. Greater throughput is achieved by lowering the speed limit, so that you don't get people going slower, basically. But that's not a good gerneral solution IMO. |
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