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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ VA psychiatrist charged in road-rage gunfire Tenn. doctor accused of firing gunshots at van carrying children Updated: 3:55 p.m. MT Aug 21, 2006 CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. - A Veterans Administration psychiatrist charged with firing gunshots at a van carrying children told the officer who stopped him that it was an act of road rage, authorities said. Dr. Alex Abelardo Fider, a psychiatrist at the VA hospital in Murfreesboro, was charged with aggravated assault. He was released on a $10,000 bond Monday. A Nissan Quest carrying an adult and two 11-year-olds was exiting Interstate 24 on Sunday when three shots were fired from a Dodge Caravan, Tennessee Department of Safety spokeswoman Julie Oaks said. At least one round hit the Nissan, she added. She said the Nissans driver returned to the interstate to follow the Dodge and called the Tennessee Highway Patrol. The trooper who stopped the Dodge near Kimball reported finding three spent shell casings in the glove box and a pistol under the passenger seat, Oaks said. The arrest report said Fider, a passenger in the van, told the trooper the shooting was an act of road rage, Oaks said. Fider, scheduled to appear in court Sept. 12, did not immediately return a message left for him at the hospital Monday -------------------------------- HUH?? Now why would the guy save the shell casings instead of tossing them out the window? > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ > > VA psychiatrist charged in road-rage gunfire > Tenn. doctor accused of firing gunshots at van carrying children > -------------------------------- > > HUH?? Now why would the guy save the shell casings instead of tossing > them out the window? Uh, maybe because a guy that shoots at a van full of kids isn't exactly full of rational thought. Kinda like a nutcase who tosses marbles out of his window on the freeway. > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Kinda like a nutcase who tosses marbles out of his window on the > freeway. Kinda like someone who plays in traffic during rush hour. Sounds like a case for Dr Phil ;) >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Kinda like a nutcase who tosses marbles out of his window on the >freeway. I knew a biker who did that when cars tailgated him ... > >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > I knew a biker who did that when cars tailgated him ... Which only means there's more than 1 nutcase around, which isn't surprising. >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > I knew a biker who did that when cars tailgated him ... Can you blame him?? Everyone has a right to self-defense. > >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ > >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Can you blame him?? Everyone has a right to self-defense. Mmm, and what about the other people on the road behind you that aren't tailgating you? I guess that gives them the right to blow your head off. After all, everyone has a right to self-defense. > On 8/23/2006 3:09 PM ... Larry Bud wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I guess that gives them the right to blow your head off. After all, > everyone has a right to self-defense. Judy isn't capable of thinking that far ahead (or behind, as the case may be). He is just a deadly killer with his accident-causing marbles. >> >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >Mmm, and what about the other people on the road behind you that aren't >tailgating you? You might as well say "A man has no right to shoot the guy raping his daughter cause a stray bullet might hit an innocent bystander." URACOWARD. Grow a couple balls and fight. >>> Can you blame him?? Everyone has a right to self-defense. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >daughter cause a stray bullet might hit an innocent bystander." >URACOWARD. Grow a couple balls and fight. And if that stray bullet does in fact hit someone else, he will be held to account for it. You have the responsibility for all your actions, even if you don't think so.  SignatureBill Funk replace "g" with "a" >>>> Can you blame him?? Everyone has a right to self-defense. >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >You have the responsibility for all your actions, even if you don't >think so. As usual, you can't think logically. Of course you will be held accountable for the stray bullet that hits the innocent. But you still have the right to shoot the rapist. THINK > >>>> Can you blame him?? Everyone has a right to self-defense. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > accountable for the stray bullet that hits the innocent. But you > still have the right to shoot the rapist. THINK Given the last scenario you gave...and this becoming a police state...cops don't like competition for the chance to shoot rapists. They say you should not take the law into your own hands (remember the Wapner court program). However, your sentence in that case would be less than if the rapist were innocent. Yep, I did think this time. Did you? >>>>> Can you blame him?? Everyone has a right to self-defense. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >accountable for the stray bullet that hits the innocent. But you >still have the right to shoot the rapist. THINK As opposed to you, I do think. I have several firearms, and have taken rather good training in the proper handling and shooting of same. If I do have the right to shoot a rapist, I also have the responsibility to make sure no one else is hurt by my actions. Get theat nice man in the white jacket to explain responsibility to you. SignatureBill Funk replace "g" with "a" > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > HUH?? Now why would the guy save the shell casings instead of tossing > them out the window? Perhaps the shrink is a quack. Both his license to drive and his license to practice psychiatry should be discontinued. > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ > > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Perhaps the shrink is a quack. Both his license to drive and his > license to practice psychiatry should be discontinued. He ought to be charged with attempted murder and have his guns taken away. <...> >> Dr. Alex Abelardo Fider, a psychiatrist at the VA hospital in >> Murfreesboro, was charged with aggravated assault. He was released on >> a $10,000 bond Monday. <...> >> The arrest report said Fider, a passenger in the van, told the trooper >> the shooting was an act of road rage, Oaks said. <...> > Perhaps the shrink is a quack. Both his license to drive and his > license to practice psychiatry should be discontinued. How would that prevent him from being a passenger shooting at other vehicles ? ><...> >>> Dr. Alex Abelardo Fider, a psychiatrist at the VA hospital in [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >How would that prevent him from being a passenger shooting at other >vehicles ? Shooting ? If you're REALLY a psycho bent on causing damage you just toss out a couple quarts of oil near a curve during rush-hour ... helps if it's a kinda rainy day .... Some people, 'liberals' mostly, seem to think the only way to cause mayhem is to use a firearm ... I remember a few years back, some guys cause all kinds of death and mayhem ... armed only with a few small box cutters ..... >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >Perhaps the shrink is a quack. Both his license to drive and his >license to practice psychiatry should be discontinued. More likely the cops just planted the shell casings. That's the point i was making. This whole story sounds fishy. > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ > > HUH?? Now why would the guy save the shell casings instead of tossing > them out the window? For reloading later. Maybe he figured that by putting them in the glove box, cops wouldn't find them and if they did, claim no warrant issued to search. I seriously doubt that the shrink will continue his employment with the VA. What I would like to know is, what caused the guy to shoot? What did the kids do to piss him off? >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >What I would like to know is, what caused the guy to shoot? What did the >kids do to piss him off? Maybe the guy didn't shoot. Maybe the kids didn't do anything. This whole story - like finding the shell casings in the glove compartment - sounds like a frame job by the cops. Happens every day. >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >whole story - like finding the shell casings in the glove compartment >- sounds like a frame job by the cops. Happens every day. Easy enough to find out if the cops did a frame job. With both the gun and a bullet, it's very easy to find if they match. SignatureBill Funk replace "g" with "a" >>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ >>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Easy enough to find out if the cops did a frame job. >With both the gun and a bullet, it's very easy to find if they match. HUH??? If they planted the shells they planted the gun too. THINK > >>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ > >>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > HUH??? If they planted the shells they planted the gun too. THINK And they shot the bullet into the other vehicle too? You THINK >> >>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ >> >>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >And they shot the bullet into the other vehicle too? What's to stop them? There ain't one honest cop in america. Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers) - 23 Aug 2006 00:52 GMT Hi. This is the meow-send program at usenet. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver any clue to the following address: Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2001@yahoo.com> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. >HUH??? If they planted the shells they planted the gun too. THINK Did they plant his fingerprints on the gun and casings, retard? --- "Do we operate under a system of equal justice under law? Or is there one system for the average citizen and another for the high and mighty?" ~ Senator Ted Kennedy, 1973 SignatureEl Pollo Loco (Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend) demonstrates it's complete gullibility, stupidity, and state of delusion when it falls for an April Fool's joke, hook, line, and sinker: > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/008d032d86999983?hl=en& Ragnar wrote: > Gods, you're dumb. Its a rather obvious April Fool's joke. And you're > the Fool. This is no joke. > >>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ > >>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > HUH??? If they planted the shells they planted the gun too. THINK Uh oh, looks like Pride of America/Aunt Judy/Laura Bush Murder Her Boyfriend has now morphed into "Speeds & Drunk Drivers are Murderers". > On 8/22/2006 10:19 PM ... Larry Bud wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Uh oh, looks like Pride of America/Aunt Judy/Laura Bush Murder Her > Boyfriend has now morphed into "Speeds & Drunk Drivers are Murderers". Yep. Actually, Judy is posting under both at the moment. Must want to start an argument with himself. >>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >HUH??? If they planted the shells they planted the gun too. THINK HUH??? If they planted the gun, they'd need to come up with some sort of evidence that the suspect actually owned or (even more critical) actually fired the gun. THINK! SignatureBill Funk replace "g" with "a" >>HUH??? If they planted the shells they planted the gun too. THINK > >HUH??? >If they planted the gun, they'd need to come up with some sort of >evidence that the suspect actually owned or (even more critical) >actually fired the gun. THINK! They "found" the gun under the passenger seat where the alledged shooter was sitting. That's all the evidence they need. >>>HUH??? If they planted the shells they planted the gun too. THINK >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >They "found" the gun under the passenger seat where the alledged >shooter was sitting. That's all the evidence they need. You need to get your paranoia under control - and I speak as one who is actually diagnosed as paranoid. Your startement also shows a complete lack of understanding of court procedure. But I merely state the obvious. SignatureBill Funk replace "g" with "a" Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Speeders $ Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS, proud (and obvious) graduate of the South Hampton Institute of Technology polluted rec.autos.driving with this crap: > Maybe <crap flushed> > every day. Hey, a.shole: is that a freuidian slip in your nym, el faggio?? SignatureI ncompetence & C orruption E picenter They pointed a pretzel at him. > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14456485/ > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > What I would like to know is, what caused the guy to shoot? What did the > kids do to piss him off? |
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