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Today's MFFYCam Episode
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Scott en Aztlán - 12 Nov 2006 02:09 GMT http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en
In today's episode, the MFFYCam captures a driver who suddenly decides she needs to turn right at the next intersection, so she slows sharply and cuts across three lanes of traffic to make her turn, leaving a wave of brake lights in her wake.
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necromancer - 12 Nov 2006 02:18 GMT Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Scott en Aztlán said in rec.autos.driving:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en > > In today's episode, the MFFYCam captures a driver who suddenly decides > she needs to turn right at the next intersection, so she slows sharply > and cuts across three lanes of traffic to make her turn, leaving a > wave of brake lights in her wake. Encountered numbnutzes like thatone many times. Now, had she KRETP to begin with.....
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 12 Nov 2006 03:18 GMT >http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en > >In today's episode, the MFFYCam captures a driver who suddenly decides >she needs to turn right at the next intersection, so she slows sharply >and cuts across three lanes of traffic to make her turn, leaving a >wave of brake lights in her wake. Did anybody honk the horn at her?. I would have. I do that every time i see a driver do sumping crazy in the hopes a cop will notice and arrest the psycho.
MLOM - 12 Nov 2006 03:23 GMT > >http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > time i see a driver do sumping crazy in the hopes a cop will notice > and arrest the psycho. What if you violate a noise ordinance with the horn? I figure you'd prefer giving the MFFY driver enough of a nudge for an unplanned off-road experience.
Who knows? Scott might have used the horn after stopping his video.
Scott en Aztlán - 12 Nov 2006 07:32 GMT Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2001@yahoo.com> said in rec.autos.driving:
>Did anybody honk the horn at her? Nope - waste of time.
>I would have. I do that every >time i see a driver do sumping crazy in the hopes a cop will notice >and arrest the psycho. Cops don't care about dangerous stuff like this. Since she clearly wasn't speeding, they wouldn't have even bothered to pull her over.
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necromancer - 12 Nov 2006 14:44 GMT Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS masturbated to some kid porn while saying this in rec.autos.driving:
> Did anybody honk the horn at her?. I would have. I do that every > time i see a driver do sumping crazy in the hopes a cop will notice > and arrest the psycho that I am. And when you get arrested for a noise ordinance violation/disturbing the peace/general poor taste, will you kick the cop's teeth in?
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Alan Baker - 12 Nov 2006 05:49 GMT > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en > > In today's episode, the MFFYCam captures a driver who suddenly decides > she needs to turn right at the next intersection, so she slows sharply > and cuts across three lanes of traffic to make her turn, leaving a > wave of brake lights in her wake. Hmmm...
It looks like the vehicle with the MFFYCam was traveling significantly faster than traffic flow.
And two cars braking, is hardly a "wave".
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Scott en Aztlán - 12 Nov 2006 07:21 GMT Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving:
>It looks like the vehicle with the MFFYCam was traveling significantly >faster than traffic flow. Speed limit: 55 MPH. Camera car was driving at or below the legal limit at all times.
Traffic flow: Artificially lowered due to blockage by Sloth LLB.
>And two cars braking, is hardly a "wave". How do you know there were only 2? Did you see the tape from the rearward camera?
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Alan Baker - 12 Nov 2006 07:54 GMT > Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Traffic flow: Artificially lowered due to blockage by Sloth LLB. Really? That's why the centre lane with the truck ahead of this alleged "sloth" was slower?
> >And two cars braking, is hardly a "wave". > > How do you know there were only 2? Did you see the tape from the > rearward camera? No. You didn't make it available, now did you?
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Scott en Aztlán - 12 Nov 2006 16:20 GMT Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving:
>> >It looks like the vehicle with the MFFYCam was traveling significantly >> >faster than traffic flow. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Really? That's why the centre lane with the truck ahead of this alleged >"sloth" was slower? You've never seen two Sloths drive side-by-side, forming a rolling roadblock before?
>> >And two cars braking, is hardly a "wave". >> >> How do you know there were only 2? Did you see the tape from the >> rearward camera? > >No. QED.
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Alan Baker - 12 Nov 2006 21:43 GMT > Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You've never seen two Sloths drive side-by-side, forming a rolling > roadblock before? And the truck in the right lane, too? And the three vehicles ahead of him?
> > >> >And two cars braking, is hardly a "wave". [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > QED. So show us the tape...
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Scott en Aztlán - 13 Nov 2006 02:45 GMT Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving:
>> >> Traffic flow: Artificially lowered due to blockage by Sloth LLB. >> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >And the truck in the right lane, too? And the three vehicles ahead of >him? You mean the ones slowing down to make a right turn?
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Alan Baker - 13 Nov 2006 02:50 GMT > Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You mean the ones slowing down to make a right turn? You're coming up on him long before he starts slowing to turn...
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Larry Bud - 12 Nov 2006 15:31 GMT > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It looks like the vehicle with the MFFYCam was traveling significantly > faster than traffic flow. Are you kidding me? He barely gained on the group in front of him in the 20 seconds the video was running.
The only time he closed the gap is when the stupid bitch slammed on her brakes and cut across 3 lanes of traffic.
Alan Baker - 12 Nov 2006 21:42 GMT > > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en > > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > The only time he closed the gap is when the stupid bitch slammed on her > brakes and cut across 3 lanes of traffic. I'm sorry, but that is plainly nonsense. When the video opens there are easily 15 dashed lane marks between the camera car and the vehicles ahead. At the moment the FourRunner changed lanes, there is *one* mark.
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Larry Bud - 12 Nov 2006 22:49 GMT > > > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en > > > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > easily 15 dashed lane marks between the camera car and the vehicles > ahead. Wrong, there are 9 or 10. Pause the video at the start and count them.
> At the moment the FourRunner changed lanes, there is *one* mark. The dumb bitch then hit her BRAKES to change lane at the 9 second mark. There is a TON of room between the camera and the stupid bitch at this point, and the space would have remained if the idiot didn't slam on the brakes. The car behind her had to slow down to avoid hitting her. At this point there are 3 or 4 marks at the 11 second point. Still plenty of room to get over, if she knew how to drive.
At the 14 second mark there are still 3 marks between the camera and the bitch, as her right wheel go over the lane marker.
By the time she change 1 lane, he was on her, but clearly she was only going about 20 mph (in a 55 zone).
Bottom line, do you think she was driving properly?
Scott en Aztlán - 13 Nov 2006 02:48 GMT Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving:
>I'm sorry, but that is plainly nonsense. When the video opens there are >easily 15 dashed lane marks between the camera car and the vehicles >ahead. At the moment the FourRunner changed lanes, there is *one* mark. You know, I haven't seen anyone who enjoys argument for argument's sake since I plonked GPSTroll into my killfile.
You two ought to get acquainted - you could have endless fun together.
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Alan Baker - 12 Nov 2006 05:52 GMT > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en > > In today's episode, the MFFYCam captures a driver who suddenly decides > she needs to turn right at the next intersection, so she slows sharply > and cuts across three lanes of traffic to make her turn, leaving a > wave of brake lights in her wake. Oh, yeah!
And the first vehicle to brake was following *way* too close.
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Scott en Aztlán - 12 Nov 2006 07:29 GMT Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving:
>And the first vehicle to brake was following *way* too close. <shrug> If the dib bulb in the 4Runner hadn't been Sloth LLBing, there would have been neither reason nor opportunity for the white Suburban to tailgate it.
Of course, none of this excuses what the MFFY in the 4Runner did.
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Alan Baker - 12 Nov 2006 07:56 GMT > Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Of course, none of this excuses what the MFFY in the 4Runner did. Sorry, but:
a: as overtaking traffic, it was your job to keep clear of a legal lane change, and,
b: didn't you just excuse someone for tailgating?
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Scott en Aztlán - 12 Nov 2006 16:22 GMT Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving:
>> >And the first vehicle to brake was following *way* too close. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >a: as overtaking traffic, it was your job to keep clear of a legal lane >change Cite.
>b: didn't you just excuse someone for tailgating? I did not excuse, I explained.
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Alan Baker - 12 Nov 2006 21:46 GMT > Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Cite. Right after the rear camera video shows the cars who could have set off the "wave" of braking...
> >b: didn't you just excuse someone for tailgating? > > I did not excuse, I explained. Nope. You did for the tailgater precisely what you said you wouldn't do for the "MFFY".
She didn't brake excessively and if the truck behind her had been where he was supposed to have been, he wouldn't have been disturbed. And if you hadn't been overtaking in the middle lane, rather than the left, you would have gone right through as well.
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Larry Bud - 12 Nov 2006 22:52 GMT > She didn't brake excessively Nonsense. You think proper lane changes, across 3 lanes of traffic in about 100 feet is proper?
and if the truck behind her had been where
> he was supposed to have been, he wouldn't have been disturbed. And if > you hadn't been overtaking in the middle lane, rather than the left, you > would have gone right through as well. He's allowed to drive the speed limit. It's not his job to make sure the moron going across 3 lanes is able to do so.
Scott en Aztlán - 13 Nov 2006 02:52 GMT Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving:
>> >a: as overtaking traffic, it was your job to keep clear of a legal lane >> >change [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Right after the rear camera video shows the cars who could have set off >the "wave" of braking... Translation: YOU CAN'T because there is no such law.
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Alan Baker - 13 Nov 2006 02:56 GMT > Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Translation: YOU CAN'T because there is no such law. Translation: You CAN'T because there was no such wave...
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gpsman - 12 Nov 2006 15:05 GMT Scott en Aztl?n wrote:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en > > In today's episode, the MFFYCam captures a driver who suddenly decides > she needs to turn right at the next intersection, so she slows sharply > and cuts across three lanes of traffic to make her turn, leaving a > wave of brake lights in her wake. As usual, most prominent is your MFFY attitude and your poor driving. -----
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Larry Bud - 12 Nov 2006 15:28 GMT Scott en Aztl?n wrote:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > I'm a wreckless driver and damn proud of it! I wouldn't consider this MFFY, it's "I'm not paying attention enough to realize my turn is coming up". Or "I have no f.cking clue where I'm going".
If she had come up from behind you, then cut in front of you to make the turn, then you've got an MFFY.
Ulf - 12 Nov 2006 20:15 GMT >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > realize my turn is coming up". Or "I have no f.cking clue where I'm > going". Yup, definitely. I'm no MFFY, but I've done worse than this driver.
> If she had come up from behind you, then cut in front of you to make > the turn, then you've got an MFFY. Agreed.
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Larry Bud - 12 Nov 2006 22:53 GMT > >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Yup, definitely. I'm no MFFY, but I've done worse than this driver. Maybe you should take a driving class. She clearly endangered everybody in that section of road, in all 3 lanes.
Arif Khokar - 13 Nov 2006 01:08 GMT >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en
>> In today's episode, the MFFYCam captures a driver who suddenly decides >> she needs to turn right at the next intersection, so she slows sharply >> and cuts across three lanes of traffic to make her turn, leaving a >> wave of brake lights in her wake.
> I wouldn't consider this MFFY, it's "I'm not paying attention enough to > realize my turn is coming up". Or "I have no f.cking clue where I'm > going". No, that driver was definitely a MFFY. A non-MFFY driver, after realizing she's about to miss the turn she's supposed to make, would proceed straight through the intersection, get in the left turn lane at the next intersection, and make a U-turn to get back to the first intersection.
Scott en Aztlán - 13 Nov 2006 02:50 GMT Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> said in rec.autos.driving:
>> I wouldn't consider this MFFY, it's "I'm not paying attention enough to >> realize my turn is coming up". Or "I have no f.cking clue where I'm [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >the next intersection, and make a U-turn to get back to the first >intersection. Exactly. We all make mistakes, but only a MFFY will screw over everyone else on the road in their desperate attempts to recover from their mistake.
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Alan Baker - 13 Nov 2006 02:53 GMT > Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > everyone else on the road in their desperate attempts to recover from > their mistake. She didn't "screw over everyone else on the road". She caused one tailgater to have to brake and one person who apparently preaches KRETP but doesn't practice it to do the same. That's it.
If the tailgater had been where he belonged and you had moved into the left lane to pass the slower traffic, there would have been nothing at all out of the ordinary here.
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Arif Khokar - 13 Nov 2006 03:03 GMT >> Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> said in rec.autos.driving:
>>> No, that driver was definitely a MFFY. A non-MFFY driver, after >>> realizing she's about to miss the turn she's supposed to make, would >>> proceed straight through the intersection, get in the left turn lane at >>> the next intersection, and make a U-turn to get back to the first >>> intersection.
>> Exactly. We all make mistakes, but only a MFFY will screw over >> everyone else on the road in their desperate attempts to recover from >> their mistake.
> She didn't "screw over everyone else on the road". She caused one > tailgater to have to brake and one person who apparently preaches KRETP > but doesn't practice it to do the same. That's it. Sorry, but that's not how it's supposed to work. When there are turn lanes, one is supposed to slow down only when they've entered one of the designated lanes. You're not supposed to slow down in the through lanes and depend on other drivers to take evasive action to avoid colliding with you.
> If the tailgater had been where he belonged Where does he belong? He's not going to overtake her by using the left turn lane.
Alan Baker - 13 Nov 2006 09:01 GMT > >> Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > and depend on other drivers to take evasive action to avoid colliding > with you. So, what then: how do you ever shift lanes if someone is beside you? You're already moving as fast as you're supposed to and you've just told us "you're not supposed to slow down"...
> > If the tailgater had been where he belonged > > Where does he belong? He's not going to overtake her by using the left > turn lane. Hmmmm...
I know! Not tailgating. The only person who had to take "evasive action" was a tailgater.
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Arif Khokar - 14 Nov 2006 00:27 GMT > So, what then: how do you ever shift lanes if someone is beside you? Wait for them to pass me, or pass them.
Alan Baker - 14 Nov 2006 00:30 GMT > > So, what then: how do you ever shift lanes if someone is beside you? > > Wait for them to pass me, or pass them. You're never allowed to slow down to make a lane change? You really want to stick with that asinine position?
LOL
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Arif Khokar - 14 Nov 2006 00:32 GMT >>> So, what then: how do you ever shift lanes if someone is beside you?
>> Wait for them to pass me, or pass them.
> You're never allowed to slow down to make a lane change? You really want > to stick with that asinine position? No, I never have had to slow down to make a lane change. I have had to speed up to make one.
Alan Baker - 14 Nov 2006 00:36 GMT > >>> So, what then: how do you ever shift lanes if someone is beside you? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > No, I never have had to slow down to make a lane change. I have had to > speed up to make one. That's not what I asked. You claim never to have "had to slow down" (which I don't believe, BTW; tell me you've never eased off the throttle to fall back a car length or less to align yourself with the nearest gap to the left or right. Please.), but that says nothing about whether or not it is "allowed".
Please cite the law, ordinance or regulation that makes it illegal to slow down or brake in a through lane...
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Arif Khokar - 14 Nov 2006 00:40 GMT >> No, I never have had to slow down to make a lane change. I have had to >> speed up to make one.
> That's not what I asked. Sorry, I misread your original statement.
> Please cite the law, ordinance or regulation that makes it illegal to > slow down or brake in a through lane... That's not what I said.
Jim Yanik - 14 Nov 2006 02:03 GMT >>>> So, what then: how do you ever shift lanes if someone is beside >>>> you? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > No, I never have had to slow down to make a lane change. I have had > to speed up to make one. What I hate are the MFFY's who slow to a crawl (or STOP and block the lane)to wait to be let into a lane they should have gotten into much earlier. You can see this every day on eastbound SR436 nearing Red Bug Road(Orlando/Casselberry,Florida),and NEVER any police to cite them.
They could really fill their coffers with those ticket revenues.
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Scott en Aztlán - 14 Nov 2006 03:45 GMT Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> said in rec.autos.driving:
>What I hate are the MFFY's who slow to a crawl (or STOP and block the >lane)to wait to be let into a lane they should have gotten into much >earlier. You can see this every day on eastbound SR436 nearing Red Bug >Road(Orlando/Casselberry,Florida),and NEVER any police to cite them. Hell, you can see that every day on MOST roads. Here's one from my collection:
http://www.zippyvideos.com/4541598645560526/lemmein/
It stems either from a complete lack of planning, or from the expectation that there will always be a JLEDI in the target lane who will slow down and allow the MFFY to merge in. Unfortunately, most of the time they are right. :(
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Scott en Aztlán - 14 Nov 2006 03:34 GMT Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> said in rec.autos.driving:
>>>> So, what then: how do you ever shift lanes if someone is beside you? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >No, I never have had to slow down to make a lane change. I have had to >speed up to make one. Which, incidentally, is exactly what the MFFY in the 4Runner should have done. The minivan in the middle lane had to have neen doing at least 10 MPH below the speed limit; the MFFY could have easily sped up, changed lanes in front of the minivan, and not inconvenienced anybody.
A sure sign of an incompetent driver is one that slows down when they should be speeding up, e.g. when merging onto the freeway.
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Brent P - 14 Nov 2006 03:45 GMT > Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> said in rec.autos.driving:
>>No, I never have had to slow down to make a lane change. I have had to >>speed up to make one.
> Which, incidentally, is exactly what the MFFY in the 4Runner should > have done. The minivan in the middle lane had to have neen doing at > least 10 MPH below the speed limit; the MFFY could have easily sped > up, changed lanes in front of the minivan, and not inconvenienced > anybody. I was stuck behind such a dufus today. He had to get into the right lane to get to an on ramp. So what does he do... slows dramatically and forces his way in between two vehicles. Problem was, some yards up there was a gap the size of Ohio. Even with him delaying me, I could have comfortably made that gap and the ramp should that have been where I wanted to go.
> A sure sign of an incompetent driver is one that slows down when they > should be speeding up, e.g. when merging onto the freeway. Just sunday I got stuck behind some dufus who had to merge at 35mph. This when I wanted to avoid hard accelerations on my car because I wasn't sure if I had corrected the problem I was having with it.
John S. - 12 Nov 2006 16:38 GMT Scott en Aztl?n wrote:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7434644716492198156&hl=en > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > I'm a wreckless driver and damn proud of it!
>From what I can see the guy attempting to both run the camera and drive was well behind the person making the lane change. The person had signal on to make the lane change and yet the guy running the camera mysteriously allowed the distance to close quickly as the car in front changed lanes. Quite an unsafe move on the camera operators part. Had he collided with the other car he would have likely been cited.
"Scott", I've seen this nonsense posted by you before and I've always wanted to ask you a few questions. Do you really have that much free time that you can drive around aimlessly looking for video shots? Do you imagine yourself as someday getting your fifteen minutes of fame on one of the discovery channel programs? And finally, don't you think that you are putting others at risk by attempting to buth run the camera and drive at the same time?
Scott en Aztlán - 14 Nov 2006 16:02 GMT "John S." <hjsjms@cs.com> said in rec.autos.driving:
>"Scott", I've seen this nonsense posted by you before and I've always >wanted to ask you a few questions. Do you really have that much free >time that you can drive around aimlessly looking for video shots? Everybody has hobbies. Some people collect stamps. Some collect bugs. Some go around paying hookers to puke on them or to wear high heels while stomping on a mouse. Some drive around the contry taking videos of roads. I happen to enjoy collecting photos and videos of MFFY behavior. And I bet if you pick 10 videos at random from YouTube or Google Video, mine are more interesting to watch than all 10 of them.
>Do you imagine yourself as someday getting your fifteen minutes of fame on >one of the discovery channel programs? Maybe one day I'll capture something so outrageous that I'll make a million selling it to the news media, but that's not my goal. Sunlight is the best disinfectant; by exposing MFFY behavior to public scrutiny and ridicule, my hope is that someone will think twice before making a MFFY maneuver next time. If even one person makes an effort to become a more courteous and safe driver then my efforts have been worthwhile.
>And finally, don't you think >that you are putting others at risk by attempting to buth run the >camera and drive at the same time? The camera is affixed to the windshield on the passenger's side using a suction cup mount. I have a remote control that I keep on the center console. IOW, starting and stopping the camcorder is less dangerous than turning on my car radio. And it is positioned in such a way that it does not block my view of the road.
My other setup is a Logitech webcam connected to a laptop computer; with that setup, the camera records constantly to the laptop's hard disk, and the camera itself is attached to the dashboard with masking tape. Even less of my attention is required to operate this configuration, and even less of my view is blocked.
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