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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / December 2006

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Brent P - 13 Dec 2006 18:56 GMT
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/14/1494.asp

"Billions in Highway Taxes Diverted to General Spending
Only one-third of fees collected by state and local government from
motorists goes directly to road construction and maintenance."
<...>
"According to the latest figures from the Federal Highway Administration,
motorists gave state and local government $40.3 billion in 2005 for the
ability to drive and own a vehicle."
<...>
"After accounting for administration and overhead, $28.5 billion remained
for all fifty states to spend in 2005. Of this amount, only $13 billion
was spent on state and local road construction and maintenance."
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MLOM - 13 Dec 2006 21:40 GMT
> http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/14/1494.asp
>
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> was spent on state and local road construction and maintenance."
> <...>

Sounds a lot like MoDOT prior to Amendment 3.
Scott en Aztlán - 14 Dec 2006 03:23 GMT
tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com (Brent P) said in
rec.autos.driving:

>http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/14/1494.asp
>
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>for all fifty states to spend in 2005. Of this amount, only $13 billion
>was spent on state and local road construction and maintenance."

And meanwhile local governments are forced to make up for these
shortfalls by passing even MORE taxes, like the Measure M sales tax in
Orange County, CA.

Pity there's no law that REQUIRES road taxes to be spent ONLY on road
projects...
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Ashton Crusher - 17 Dec 2006 20:59 GMT
>tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com (Brent P) said in
>rec.autos.driving:
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>Pity there's no law that REQUIRES road taxes to be spent ONLY on road
>projects...

If you want to see more of the money spent on roads lobby for the
elimination of the Federal Highway Administration.  The need for the
FHWA ended with the completion of the interstate.  Since then they
have been an almost useless organization in search of work to do ( I
know because I work for the State DOT that deals with them).  To
justify their existence they have shifted a large amount of their
resources into "helping states".  As one example, they do practically
no actual design work but maintain a bunch of "experts" in various
fields that invariably know less then the people they are allegedly
"helping".  They also "support" research, which means they are
overhead on the part of your tax dollars spent on researching.  And at
least 50% of what's researched has already been researched 20 times
over in master thesis after masters thesis.  There is no end to how
many times graduate students from third world countries can "discover"
that weak pavements don't last as long.  

One of the brilliant conclusions from the zillion dollar Strategic
Highway Research Program of the last decade was that when you do
maintenance work that said work lasts longer when you do it on good
pavements then it does when you do it on crappy pavements.  It took
them years to figure that out.  All paid for out of your tax dollars.
 
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