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Define "Speediot"

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Scott en Aztlán - 16 Dec 2006 21:19 GMT
I've seen this term bandied about recently in this newsgroup. What,
exactly, is the definition of this word?

Is it:

* Someone who drives too fast for conditions?
* Someone who drives faster than the arbitrary numbers painted on a
sign?
* Someone who drives faster than Carl Troller?
* An incendiary device used by trolls in an attempt to ignite a flame
war?
* (Fill in the blank)

???
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700
If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to the impact.

necromancer - 16 Dec 2006 21:24 GMT
Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Scott en Aztlán
said in rec.autos.driving:
> I've seen this term bandied about recently in this newsgroup. What,
> exactly, is the definition of this word?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> war?
> * (Fill in the blank)

I'd say #3: anyone that drives faster than carl troller.

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Dave - 16 Dec 2006 23:02 GMT
Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Scott en Aztlán
said in rec.autos.driving:
> I've seen this term bandied about recently in this newsgroup. What,
> exactly, is the definition of this word?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> war?
> * (Fill in the blank)

I'd say #3: anyone that drives faster than carl troller.

I'd say #5: anyone who knows how to drive, and thus is looked down upon by
others who think they know how to drive
MLOM - 17 Dec 2006 03:26 GMT
> Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Scott en Aztlán
> said in rec.autos.driving:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> I'd say #5: anyone who knows how to drive, and thus is looked down upon by
> others who think they know how to drive

I agree with you on #3 and #5, but I'd add #6: the 99.99999999999% of
drivers who drive faster than Aunt Judy.
MLOM - 17 Dec 2006 03:34 GMT
> > Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Scott en Aztlán
> > said in rec.autos.driving:
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> I agree with you on #3 and #5, but I'd add #6: the 99.99999999999% of
> drivers who drive faster than Aunt Judy.

Just give me some time to excise my tongue from my cheek after the last
one.
Matthew T. Russotto - 18 Dec 2006 02:15 GMT
>I've seen this term bandied about recently in this newsgroup. What,
>exactly, is the definition of this word?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>sign?
>* Someone who drives faster than Carl Troller?

Close.  Someone who drives just as fast as Carl's wife did, or faster.
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aggressive_driving@yahoo.com - 23 Dec 2006 21:40 GMT
Scott en Aztl?n (Mexican National?) wrote:

> I've seen this term bandied about recently in this newsgroup. What,
> exactly, is the definition of this word?

In one sentence: A speediot is someone who drives with a relentless
need to be ahead of everyone else. "Impatient f.cks" is a more colorful
term for these egomaniacs. That's an impossible goal on most roads
because you keep coming upon more traffic. Speediots drive like their
cruise control is stuck. They barely slow down for anything in their
rush to get back to the subdivision. Glued-on cellphones have been a
common accessory since the 90s. Eyes tend to be straight ahead,
scanning for the next passing opportunity.

If you're not exactly a speediot you should stop trying to remove speed
as a cause in crashes. The NHTSA says speed causes at least 30% of
crashes, so admit it and drop your ego. It's crazy to debate things so
palpably obvious as energy, crash-avoidance and impact force. Your
whole mythology is based on a false immunity to the unexpected. Nobody
is that clued-in to the space/time continuum.

> Is it:
>
> * Someone who drives too fast for conditions?

Yes, and this is especially true in snow and fog where speediots get
stupid beyond belief. They crash with great regularity each season
after thousands of warnings. Bad behavior gets amplified by bad
weather.

> * Someone who drives faster than the arbitrary numbers painted on a
> sign?

Sometimes, but more specifically it's someone who ALWAYS drives A LOT
faster than the posted limit. Don't try to pin me on a number, but it
ranges from 10 to 20 MPH over most limits. It also manifests itself in
general pushiness and aggression (see my updated website for a full
treatise).

Some roads do seem underposted but you ignore worst case scenarios and
assume you're smarter than all those engineers. Speed limits are just a
form of conservatism. People who've lived awhile understand why we need
it for society to function. They know that most people will drive over
the limit, so they post them a bit low. Speeding is one of the last
vestiges of "acceptable lawlessness," even though it kills with great
regularity. It's like smoking and blowing it in everyone's face.

Speeding is promoted by automakers and newer cars are overpowered
compared to their ancestors. With so much smooth power on tap, people
can't be blamed for speeding now and then, but those who defend it with
lies are dangerous. The effort made to "debunk" the Ian Johnston video
was a case in point. It was only a demonstration that faster cars take
longer to stop and unexpected things happen.

> * Someone who drives faster than Carl Troller?

The term "troll" is only relative to the speediots who've claimed
ownership of this forum. I flow with traffic whenever possible and pass
quite a few people, believe it or not. I move somewhat briskly, but
with reserve and I never get into situations where I might tailgate. I
understand the word "moderation" - which isn't in your vocabulary. If
you want to forever debate the strawman you've made, that's your
problem.

> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700
> If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to the impact.

If you listen carefully you can hear your number coming up through bad
karma. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not quite
this evil in person. But some people are just born rotten (natural born
speediots?) Since it's Christmastime, I hope you cure what ails you.
Lack of empathy is a troubling sign.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=killed+driver+speeding
(bleak holidays)

C.T.

http://www.geocities.com/aggressive_driving/
Brent P - 23 Dec 2006 21:51 GMT
>> I've seen this term bandied about recently in this newsgroup. What,
>> exactly, is the definition of this word?
>
> In one sentence: A speediot is someone who drives with a relentless
> need to be ahead of everyone else.

That would be you Carl. You have a relentless need to be ahead of
everyone else that you demonstrate by your goal to have everyone else
drive slower than you.

<description that fits no regulars in this group other than maybe some
trolls, deleted>

> If you're not exactly a speediot you should stop trying to remove speed
> as a cause in crashes. The NHTSA says speed causes at least 30% of
> crashes,

That also includes things like driving too slowly.
Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers) - 23 Dec 2006 22:15 GMT
Someone wrote:
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-9111165305855013700
>> If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to th=
>e impact.
>
>If you listen carefully you can hear your number coming up through bad
>karma.

ROTFLMAO. Looks like you're wife's bad karma already caught up to her.
=))

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Scott en Aztlán - 24 Dec 2006 05:28 GMT
aggressive_driving@yahoo.com said in rec.autos.driving:

>> I've seen this term bandied about recently in this newsgroup. What,
>> exactly, is the definition of this word?
>
>In one sentence: A speediot is someone who drives with a relentless
>need to be ahead of everyone else.

So why do you call me, Brent, Arif, and the rest of us by this
ridiculous term which clearly does not apply? The troll's need to
incite trouble, perhaps?

>If you're not exactly a speediot you should stop trying to remove speed
>as a cause in crashes.

How can I remove something that was never there in the first place?

>> Is it:
>>
>> * Someone who drives too fast for conditions?
>
>Yes, and this is especially true in snow and fog where speediots get
>stupid beyond belief.

That is an acceptable definition, but it conflicts with the "one
sentence" definition you gave above. I wish you'd make up your mind!

>> * Someone who drives faster than the arbitrary numbers painted on a
>> sign?
>
>Sometimes, but more specifically it's someone who ALWAYS drives A LOT
>faster than the posted limit.

I don't know anybody like that.

>Some roads do seem underposted but you ignore worst case scenarios and
>assume you're smarter than all those engineers.

If engineers were actually allowed to set speed limits, they wouldn't
be underposted. It's when politicians set speed limits artificially
low in order to enhance ticket revenue that the problems are created.

>> * Someone who drives faster than Carl Troller?
>
>The term "troll" is only relative to the speediots who've claimed
>ownership of this forum.

Now that's a hoot! A troll attempting to redefine the word "troll!"
Maybe if Jeffrey Dahmer had redefined the term "mass murderer" he
wouldn't have been convicted?

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9111165305855013700
>> If you listen carefully, you can hear Carl's wife scream just prior to the impact.
>
>If you listen carefully you can hear your number coming up through bad
>karma.

Sorry to disappoint you, Carl, but my Karma account over at Wells
Swarga has a positive balance well into the seven figures. I'm pushing
20 years without a single ticket or collision. I doubt you can
honestly say the same. If that makes me a "speediot" then I'll proudly
wear the term as a badge of honor. ;)
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necromancer - 24 Dec 2006 12:32 GMT
Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Scott en Aztlán
said in rec.autos.driving:
> If engineers were actually allowed to set speed limits, they wouldn't
> be underposted. It's when politicians set speed limits artificially
> low in order to enhance ticket revenue that the problems are created.

As such why I say get rid of the fines and replace them with jail time.
Yeah, I know it sounds aunt judyesque, but if the revenue aspect is take
out of traffic enforcement and a burden is placed on the government in
housing all these new "criminals," then you just watch as speed limits
and yellow lights in particular are set properly.

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