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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / December 2006Sloth Kills Again?
Here we have a probable case of Sloth Kills. Houghton is a semi-rural, two-lane road with few passing zones and far too much traffic. It's rare NOT to get stuck behind some Sloth while driving on that road; it's happened to me many, many times. Here's what I think happened: the guy in the purple Civic was stuck behind a Sloth (or, more likely, multiple Sloths), attempted to pass, and misjudged, striking the victim's car head on. Of course, the statistics will show this collision as "speed-related" or "road rage" or "aggressive driving" or something along those lines. Meanwhile, the TRUE cause of the collision - the Mr. Magoo retiree who was driving 15 MPH below the speed limit - just kept right on driving and was long gone by the time the cops arrived. Of course, this is all just a theory. We'll never know if this is what actually happened, since the police won't collect the proper data to make such a determination. http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/161168 Car weaving down Houghton kills motorist By Alexis Huicochea ARIZONA DAILY STAR Tucson, Arizona | Published: 12.20.2006 A 45-year-old Tucson woman died Tuesday afternoon on the Southeast Side when the driver of a car crossed the center line and hit her vehicle head-on, police said. The woman, whose name will not be released until her family has been notified, was northbound on South Houghton Road near East Drexel Road at 4:42 p.m. when a purple Honda Civic struck her Ford Tempo, said Sgt. Mark Robinson, a Tucson Police Department spokesman. Witnesses told police the Civic was weaving in the road and being driven erratically before the collision, Robinson said. Both drivers were trapped in their cars and had to be removed by the Tucson Fire Department, he said. The woman was wearing a seat belt but police could not determine if the 43-year-old man driving the other car was. There were no passengers. A helicopter was called to take the woman to a hospital because her injuries were so severe, but she died before it arrived.  SignatureWell, it appears that the gory .sigs about Carl's dead wife did their job. I've tucked them away for now, but if he (or one of his sockpuppets) comes back, so will the nasty .sigs. :) Scott en Aztl?n wrote: <archived> > Here we have a probable case of Sloth Kills. > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > I've tucked them away for now, but if he (or one of his sockpuppets) > comes back, so will the nasty .sigs. :) Man in Black: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect. Vizzini: Wait 'til I get going! Now, where was I? ----- - gpsman Scott en Aztl?n wrote: > Here we have a probable case of Sloth Kills. > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > A helicopter was called to take the woman to a hospital because her > injuries were so severe, but she died before it arrived. What is a sloth? And where is the sloth mentioned in this article? Did I miss something??? Nor did I read anything about a Mr. Magoo in the clipping either. Was Magoo the 43-year-old man driving the Civic? I can understand not releasing the name of the dead woman until her next-of-kin are notified, but the man seemed to survive the crash. Why is his name being withheld? Ned. > What is a sloth? And where is the sloth mentioned in this article? > Did I miss something??? What was the civic driver attempting to get around? > Nor did I read anything about a Mr. Magoo in the clipping either. He was driving the car the civic driver was attempting to get around. Ned Williamham wrote: <brevity snip> > > Here we have a probable case of Sloth Kills. > What is a sloth? Any driver with the audacity to be to the OP's front and operating at a lesser velocity. > And where is the sloth mentioned in this article? It isn't. > Did I miss something??? Just that the OP is an imbecile. > Nor did I read anything about a Mr. Magoo in the clipping either. Was > Magoo the 43-year-old man driving the Civic? He's the driver of the nonexistent vehicle the OP has imagined and to whom he has attributed the cause of the crash... from a distance of a mere 450 miles. ----- - gpsman "Ned Williamham" <nwilliamham@earthlink.net> said in rec.autos.driving: >What is a sloth? Someone who drives inappropriately slowly. >And where is the sloth mentioned in this article? >Did I miss something??? Only the point. :) >Nor did I read anything about a Mr. Magoo in the clipping either. The incident took place in Tucson - Snowbird Capital of the Southwest. The roads there are FULL of Mr. Magoos this time of year. >Why is his name being withheld? That's the Liberal Media at work. They are loathe to embarrass anybody by assigning blame for traffic collisions. SignatureWell, it appears that the gory .sigs about Carl's dead wife did their job. I've tucked them away for now, but if he (or one of his sockpuppets) comes back, so will the nasty .sigs. :) Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Scott en Aztlán said in rec.autos.driving: > "Ned Williamham" <nwilliamham@earthlink.net> said in > rec.autos.driving: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > The incident took place in Tucson - Snowbird Capital of the Southwest. I just returned home from the Slow... errrrrr...... Snowbird Capital of the Southeast (a.k.a. FL). I'll post commentary later. > The roads there are FULL of Mr. Magoos this time of year. You ought to check out FL - the "Let's sit and admire the pretty green light," capital of the universe. > >Why is his name being withheld? > > That's the Liberal Media at work. They are loathe to embarrass anybody > by assigning blame for traffic collisions. Unless he was "speeding," "driving aggressively," "road-raging," or something similar.... SignatureLoco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend admits to being a red light runner: "The cameras don't catch everyone. I have never been nailed for this." Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend, 5/9/06 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/ee4wq Message ID: 9nb162p1idam39jhmv5s2g0b7booh67stc@4ax.com necromancer <necromancer@kretp.tmy> said in rec.autos.driving: >> The incident took place in Tucson - Snowbird Capital of the Southwest. > >I just returned home from the Slow... errrrrr...... Snowbird Capital of >the Southeast (a.k.a. FL). I'll post commentary later. I'm cringing already. :-/ >> The roads there are FULL of Mr. Magoos this time of year. > >You ought to check out FL - the "Let's sit and admire the pretty green >light," capital of the universe. That's the kind of stuff that happens when your reaction time is measured in MINUTES. >> >Why is his name being withheld? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Unless he was "speeding," "driving aggressively," "road-raging," or >something similar.... ...like driving without a seatbelt on... SignatureWell, it appears that the gory .sigs about Carl's dead wife did their job. I've tucked them away for now, but if he (or one of his sockpuppets) comes back, so will the nasty .sigs. :) Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Scott en Aztlán said in rec.autos.driving: > necromancer <necromancer@kretp.tmy> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I'm cringing already. :-/ It wasn't too bad, I guess. Mostly a lot of Sloth Slaloming in the #2 and #3 lanes and my JDLEDI (Just Don't Let 'Em Do It) almost got me sideswiped on 295 in J-ville. > >> The roads there are FULL of Mr. Magoos this time of year. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That's the kind of stuff that happens when your reaction time is > measured in MINUTES. That's-a-Florida! :) Signature"How about this one: 'My child's self esteem is adequate enough that we don't need to advertise his minor schoolastic achievements on the back of our car.'" --George Carlin necromancer <necromancer@kretp.tmy> said in rec.autos.driving: >> >I just returned home from the Slow... errrrrr...... Snowbird Capital of >> >the Southeast (a.k.a. FL). I'll post commentary later. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >and #3 lanes and my JDLEDI (Just Don't Let 'Em Do It) almost got me >sideswiped on 295 in J-ville. JSEFDI (Just Stop 'Em From Doing It)? SignatureWell, it appears that the gory .sigs about Carl's dead wife did their job. I've tucked them away for now, but if he (or one of his sockpuppets) comes back, so will the nasty .sigs. :) Scott en Aztl?n wrote: > Here we have a probable case of Sloth Kills. > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > I've tucked them away for now, but if he (or one of his sockpuppets) > comes back, so will the nasty .sigs. :) I see a trend, time for a new shorthand- LWYMMD (look what you made me do) Getting stuck behind a sloth sucks, but only a dipshit idiot would pass with not enough visibility. The sloth didn't cause the crash, but did contribute to it. Dave spamTHISbrp@yahoo.com said in rec.autos.driving: >Getting stuck behind a sloth sucks, but only a dipshit idiot would pass >with not enough visibility. I absolutely agree. Nobody is saying what the purple Civic driver did wasn't incredibly stupid, but THAT'S HUMAN NATURE. When one is trapped by a Sloth, the wide open road ahead of the Sloth practically BEGS one to find some way - any way - to escape the trap. YES, angry people sometimes make poor judgement calls. The point is, if there hadn't been a Sloth blocking the road to cause the anger, the collision in the story would never have occured. In Message-ID: <HY5hh.14188$GB1.1348@tornado.texas.rr.com>, Jaybird tells us about a law in Texas that basically says if you use "abusive, indecent, profane, or vulgar" language in public, that tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace and YOU can be arrested for disorderly conduct. One so charged might try an argument similar to yours, e.g. "yeah, it sucks that I called this guy an ugly sack of sh.t, and said his girlfriend was a two-bit whore, but that was no reason for him to punch me in the nose." The law rightfully recognizes that the instigators are not entirely blameless in such incidents. Clearly, a Sloth who pisses people off by driving too slowly is every bit as guilty of disturbing the peace as the guy who utters obscenities. In crashes like these, the Sloth shares in the blame, and should be sanctioned for the carnage they help to cause. A ticket for disturbing the peace would be a good step in the right direction. SignatureWell, it appears that the gory .sigs about Carl's dead wife did their job. I've tucked them away for now, but if he (or one of his sockpuppets) comes back, so will the nasty .sigs. :) Scott en Aztl?n wrote: > spamTHISbrp@yahoo.com said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > been a Sloth blocking the road to cause the anger, the collision in > the story would never have occured. Then you have no point... since the sloth is purely imaginary. > In Message-ID: <HY5hh.14188$GB1.1348@tornado.texas.rr.com>, Jaybird > tells us about a law in Texas that basically says if you use "abusive, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > reason for him to punch me in the nose." The law rightfully recognizes > that the instigators are not entirely blameless in such incidents. An intentional attempt to incite is irrelevant to someone driving down the road guilty of only being unconcerned with your opinion of their velocity. > Clearly, a Sloth who pisses people off by driving too slowly is every > bit as guilty of disturbing the peace as the guy who utters > obscenities. Spurious conclusion. If a driver can piss people off by driving too slowly, a driver can piss people off by driving too fast. How might a driver determine which velocity might incite anger in which driver? Everybody over the age of 6 is responsible for controlling their own emotions. They don't tolerate such logic in kindergarten. They call it "Plays well with others"... and you can flunk. Nobody makes you angry, you choose to become angry. you can choose to not become angry, and you can choose to not act on your emotions. Every decent parent who has had a 3 year old has expected the child to exert more self-control that you seem to think is required to drive. > In crashes like these, the Sloth shares in the blame, and > should be sanctioned for the carnage they help to cause. A ticket for > disturbing the peace would be a good step in the right direction. Disturbing the peace? Because no law prohibits driving within the speed limits, or at a velocity which another driver might disagree? Who stands in judgment of your velocity? May they determine it not of their liking, crash in your vicinity, and you be found partially responsible? I'm beginning to think you believe the ROW is dependent on velocity. > -- > Well, it appears that the gory .sigs about Carl's dead wife did their job. > I've tucked them away for now, but if he (or one of his sockpuppets) > comes back, so will the nasty .sigs. :) Further bolstering the impression you lack empathy? Nice work. ----- - gpsman > > spamTHISbrp@yahoo.com said in rec.autos.driving: > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Then you have no point... since the sloth is purely imaginary. Kind of like the hypothetical land called Aztlán? Is this punk a Mexican National? Could it be another pointless rebellion against "the system" (that's kept America from being a third-world reckless driving mecca)? I don't know the story of his handle but his mind is stuck in Acidland where he's king of the road. > > Clearly, a Sloth who pisses people off by driving too slowly is every > > bit as guilty of disturbing the peace as the guy who utters [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > slowly, a driver can piss people off by driving too fast. How might a > driver determine which velocity might incite anger in which driver? Overly slow drivers are dangerous but they're greatly outnumbered by speediots. If the converse were true you and I would have a different angle here. This Scott genius won't admit to the actual ratio. There's also the issue of having a high-performance car and forgetting what mere mortals are driving. People make a similar mistake when they cut off semi trucks. > Everybody over the age of 6 is responsible for controlling their own > emotions. They don't tolerate such logic in kindergarten. They call [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Every decent parent who has had a 3 year old has expected the child to > exert more self-control that you seem to think is required to drive. Well said. This all comes down to immaturity and impatience. I have never liked impatient, edgy, arrogant people. They tend to be cigarette smokers, too. I think it's just them, not the nicotine or the car. > > Well, it appears that the gory .sigs about Carl's dead wife did their job. > > I've tucked them away for now, but if he (or one of his sockpuppets) > > comes back, so will the nasty .sigs. :) > > Further bolstering the impression you lack empathy? Nice work. Empathy is too much to expect from someone who treats others as impediments in an obstacle course. "Aunt Judy" isn't far off in calling these people psychopaths. C.T. http://www.geocities.com/aggressive_driving/ Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), said in rec.autos.driving: > Overly slow drivers are dangerous but they're greatly outnumbered by > speediots. You obviously have never had the *pleasure* of driving on Florida interstates. Signature-- necromancer Official Overseer Of Kooks And Trolls In rec.autos.driving aggressive_driving@yahoo.com said in rec.autos.driving: Now ain't that sweet... GPSTroll and Carl Troller - together at last! Hey, now that Carl's wife is dead, you two can be butt buddies! :) SignatureCarl Troller's wife catches a train: http://www.zippyvideos.com/119967005339285/faces_of_death_-_women_gets_hit_by_tr ain_funny/ And his daughter catches one, too: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/309176/girl_hit_by_a_train/ Scott en Aztl?n wrote: > aggressive_driving@yahoo.com said in rec.autos.driving: > > Now ain't that sweet... GPSTroll and Carl Troller - together at last! > > Hey, now that Carl's wife is dead, you two can be butt buddies! :) <spit take> You can't post a f.cking thing that doesn't reveal your intellect remains in elementary school, can you...? It seems my constant spnakings have compelled you to choose to not archive any of your posts... ----- - gpsman BTW, just in case anyone besides Carl is curious: Aztlán is the name that certain radical Mexicans have given to the area of land that was lost to the US durig the Mexican-American War of 1848, as well as the territory comprising the subsequent Gadsden Purchase. Comprising most of the American Southwest, it is a region that these idiots believe they will retake someday by force. That it will occur on the day that monkeys start flying outta my butt is beside the point. :) At the time, I was doing a lot of commuting between SoCal and Tucson, AZ, so neither "Scott in AZ" nor "Scott in CA" was quite correct, but "Scott en Aztlán" worked perfectly. SignatureCarl Troller's wife catches a train: http://www.zippyvideos.com/119967005339285/faces_of_death_-_women_gets_hit_by_tr ain_funny/ And his daughter catches one, too: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/309176/girl_hit_by_a_train/ > BTW, just in case anyone besides Carl is curious: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Purchase. Comprising most of the American Southwest, it is a region > that these idiots believe they will retake someday by force. No need to use force. In my travels through the area, it was quite apparent that assimilation is working quite well. :D Feliz Navidad!! SignatureJohn C. (Tongue firmly in cheek) "John C." <jonc@shore.net> said in rec.autos.driving: >> Aztlán is the name that certain radical Mexicans have given to the >> area of land that was lost to the US durig the Mexican-American War of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >In my travels through the area, it was quite apparent that assimilation is >working quite well. :D Don't remind me. :( SignatureCarl Troller's wife catches a train: http://www.zippyvideos.com/119967005339285/faces_of_death_-_women_gets_hit_by_tr ain_funny/ And his daughter catches one, too: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/309176/girl_hit_by_a_train/ Scott in Acidland wrote: > Here we have a probable case of Sloth Kills. You're grasping at straws again. Speed is not mentioned in that article. It looks more like a drunk, a teenage goof-off, a distracted driver or someone with a medical problem. Had they been speeding also, the impact would have been worse, possibly involving more cars. > Houghton is a semi-rural, two-lane road with few passing zones and far > too much traffic. It's rare NOT to get stuck behind some Sloth while > driving on that road; it's happened to me many, many times. Post a video of all these "sloths" and it will probably reveal cautious drivers that you're eager to tailgate and pass. But having said that, I find that a good 70% of people drive too fast a lot, especially in snow and fog. The ratio of speediots to sloths seems to be at least 5:1 overall. It's a fact that *overly* slow driving can be dangerous, but evidence shows speeding to be a far greater evil. That's another truth your ego can't cope with. A fair and balanced conversation is impossible with zealots, and moderate driving (as I do) is not zealotry. If someone started posting in r.a.d. about the safety benefits of driving below the limit I'd call them an idiot too. There just isn't nearly the level of denial about that vs. speeding. Safe driving is about planning ahead and not being in a real or contrived hurry all the time. Why anyone would go to such lengths to deny basic physics is a mystery to me. The idea that I'm a "sloth" is a pure fabrication. I never actively impede traffic and do quite well getting from A to B on time. You just can't handle anything subtle about speeding. They're either with you (brothers with lead feet) or against you (sloths). If you ever join the middle ground you'll actually become the safe driver you insist you are. I can forgive you for being young, maybe, but not an ignorant egomaniac. It's unclear what's motivating your speed obsession. C.T. http://www.geocities.com/aggressive_driving/ Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), said in rec.autos.driving: Hey, Scott: Guess whoz back! > It's a fact that *overly* slow driving can be dangerous, Then why don't we hear you carp about that also??? > but evidence shows speeding to be a far greater evil. So is DUI, running red lights etc... but we don't seem to hear anything from you on that. OBTW, carl, I thought you were leaving "for good??" SignatureCarl Troller melts down in another victory for sensible driving over the rabid "slow = safe," nanny-nazis: "I didn't realize this was some teenage head-butting contest. You just made me sick enough to leave for good." --"Brad," (a.k.a. Carl Troller), 12/08/2006 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/ylf955 Message ID: 1165563989.317954.88270@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com necromancer <necromancer@kretp.tmy> said in rec.autos.driving: >Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), said in >rec.autos.driving: > >Hey, Scott: Guess whoz back! <SIGH> I had to pull out the Karl Kryptonite again. >OBTW, carl, I thought you were leaving "for good??" Which sockpuppet said that? Have you heard from that particular sockpuppet since it made its Drama Queen Exit? :) SignatureCarl Troller's wife catches a train: http://www.zippyvideos.com/119967005339285/faces_of_death_-_women_gets_hit_by_tr ain_funny/ Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Scott en Aztlán said in rec.autos.driving: > necromancer <necromancer@kretp.tmy> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Which sockpuppet said that? Have you heard from that particular > sockpuppet since it made its Drama Queen Exit? :) "Brad." See the .sig... ;) SignatureCarl Troller melts down in another victory for sensible driving over the rabid "slow = safe," nanny-nazis: "I didn't realize this was some teenage head-butting contest. You just made me sick enough to leave for good." --"Brad," (a.k.a. Carl Troller), 12/08/2006 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/ylf955 Message ID: 1165563989.317954.88270@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com aggressive_driving@yahoo.com said in rec.autos.driving: >Scott in Acidland wrote: > >> Here we have a probable case of Sloth Kills. > >You're grasping at straws again. Begone, troll. SignatureCarl Troller's wife catches a train: http://www.zippyvideos.com/119967005339285/faces_of_death_-_women_gets_hit_by_tr ain_funny/ Scott en Aztl?n wrote: > aggressive_driving@yahoo.com said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Carl Troller's wife catches a train: > http://www.zippyvideos.com/119967005339285/faces_of_death_-_women_gets_hit_by_tr ain_funny/ You're a piece of garbage and I have little else to say to you. Karma tends to be harsh on your kind. C.T. http://www.geocities.com/aggressive_driving/ aggressive_driving@yahoo.com said in rec.autos.driving: >> Begone, troll. >> -- >> Carl Troller's wife catches a train: >> http://www.zippyvideos.com/119967005339285/faces_of_death_-_women_gets_hit_by_tr ain_funny/ > >You're a piece of garbage and I have little else to say to you. Ah, if only that were true. I guess it's time to up the dosage of Karl Kryptonite... SignatureCarl Troller's wife catches a train: http://www.zippyvideos.com/119967005339285/faces_of_death_-_women_gets_hit_by_tr ain_funny/ And his daughter catches one, too: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/309176/girl_hit_by_a_train/ Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers) - 23 Dec 2006 22:41 GMT Someone wrote: >You're grasping at straws again. It's your modus operandi, Carl; we're used to it. How's the wife? Planning on getting her under the mistletoe this year? By the way, I thought you wrote that you wouldn't be returning to the group? Give my regards to the misses. --- Don't steal; the government hates competition! |
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