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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / December 2006

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Ian Johnston videos + BIRG & CORF

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aggressive_driving@yahoo.com - 23 Dec 2006 23:02 GMT
This is a cleaner version of what you've seen on YouTube:

ftp://ftp.nhtsa.dot.gov/RealVideo/TAC_SPEED.MPG

It's a perfectly legitimate physics presentation, stylized for effect.
The death reductions from anti-speeding measures in Australia have been
notable. All they've done is ask drivers to slow down 5 KPH. See
http://masl.to/?F46E26B6E ("Wipe off 5" campaign).

The speediot reaction to this next video will be "overdramatized," yet
these tragedies happen every day. Chronic speediots have little
patience and even less empathy. Quite a realistic job with the crash
simulation. You can't change kids' naivety but you can lower your
kinetic energy.

ftp://ftp.nhtsa.dot.gov/RealVideo/TAC4925.mpg

That man doesn't even seem like a speediot and it shows you what the
unexpected can do to lives. The denial in this case is coming from his
spouse, since she doesn't want to be associated with a "killer." Nor do
speediots in r.a.d. want to be associated with carnage their brethren
cause.
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All of you should study phenomena known as BIRG and CORF, typically
associated with sports fanaticism. The same speed/hype mentality is in
play. Independent thinking scares many people so they side with their
cronies and demonize the "other team" with words like "sloth." When you
see a large pack of speediots pushing 90 MPH, you can bet they're
BIRGing. One wreck would quickly shift them into CORF mode, though.
They'd be blaming everything but the leather seats for their own
risk-ignorance.

C.T.

http://www.geocities.com/aggressive_driving/
Brent P - 24 Dec 2006 00:04 GMT
> This is a cleaner version of what you've seen on YouTube:
>
> ftp://ftp.nhtsa.dot.gov/RealVideo/TAC_SPEED.MPG
>
> It's a perfectly legitimate physics presentation, stylized for effect.

If you think so carl, why don't you aim your car for the center of a US
truck that lacks under-ride protection at 5kph. Let us know how it turns
out, that is if your head is still attached to your body afterwards.

> The speediot reaction to this next video will be "overdramatized,"

The thinking reaction is that uses the public's lack of knowledge of
basic engineering and automobile structure to create a false perception
that speed was the sole cause of the dramatic difference in damage. Why
don't you put the 'slow' car where the 'fast' one was in that experiment
carl? Hey carl, how about you drive a left hand drive car at 5kph into
the frame of the back of a truck's cargo box, impacting just like the
'fast' car in the video? Why don't you do that and report back to us?
That is if your head hasn't been smashed. Do you have the balls to put
your life on the line to prove your point? Or is 5kph in that
demonstration going to be FATAL with US left hand drive cars and lacking
under-ride protection on the truck regardless of which spot you put the
'slow' car?

> yet these tragedies happen every day.

Cite?

> Quite a realistic job with the crash simulation.

False. Or is that how your wife was killed by your driving?

> You can't change kids' naivety but you can lower your
> kinetic energy.

Feel free to smash the driver's side A-pillar of your car into a truck's
cargo box's frame while you are sitting in the driver's seat at 5kph and
report back to us from the hosipital or morge how it went, ok?

Put your money where your mouth is carl.
Anonymous - 26 Dec 2006 03:31 GMT
> This is a cleaner version of what you've seen on YouTube:

> ftp://ftp.nhtsa.dot.gov/RealVideo/TAC_SPEED.MPG

> It's a perfectly legitimate physics presentation, stylized for
> effect...

Good show. The crash bloke looks like Christopher Reeve. I like
the way the prof. says "and then they brYke." On Giligan's
Island the professor was always right.

Rokkor-X
 
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