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Scott en Aztlán - 04 Jan 2007 02:50 GMT Forget this stupid chirp sh.t - what we really need is an alert that tells drivers "HANG UP AND DRIVE!"
http://www.detroit-auto-show.autoblog.com/2006/04/21/chirp-alerts-cell-gabbing-d river-of-stoplight-intersection/
Chirp alerts cell-gabbing driver of intersection
Demetrius Thompson was struck, twice, by drivers distracted while chatting on their cellphones. Instead of understandably getting mad or sensibly suing the drivers for millions, he instead founded the company Global Mobile Alert which developed a system called MyMobileAlert.
MyMobileAlert tracks the cellphone via GPS as its owner drives about their business. When the system determines the chatty driver is approaching within one hundred feet of a stoplight or a certain distance from an intersection, the cellphone will emit a loud 'chirp' to notify the driver who can then take any appropriate actions.
The only requirement for MyMobileAlert is a GPS-capable cellphone; the issuing wireless company would install the necessary software. So far the system has been demonstrated in cities such as West Hollywood, California.
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Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers) - 04 Jan 2007 03:08 GMT Someone wrote:
>Forget this stupid chirp sh.t - what we really need is an alert that >tells drivers "HANG UP AND DRIVE!" [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >the system has been demonstrated in cities such as West Hollywood, >California. That's retarded.
America is removing itself from it's position as a world leader, all because of retarded crap like this.
 Signature gpstard (gpsman@driversmail.com) demonstrates his inability to comprehend the simple differences of the definitions of the monosyllabic words "time" and "chance:" (Message-ID: <1167151218.287827.24230@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com>) Why don't you argue that the faster one drives the less time spent driving and available to be involved in an accident?
"Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity: the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en "Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's ability to operate a vehicle: I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash.
: http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en Joshua Calvert <joshua_l_calvert@hotmail.com> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy": Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event. Message-ID: <Xns970A68202F1C5joshualcalverthotmai@68.6.19.6>
MLOM - 04 Jan 2007 03:38 GMT Scott en Aztl?n wrote:
> Forget this stupid chirp sh.t - what we really need is an alert that > tells drivers "HANG UP AND DRIVE!" [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > I hate speediots - especially Carl Troller. Hm, wouldn't the "chirp" also be a distraction?
Scott en Aztlán - 04 Jan 2007 15:31 GMT "MLOM" <grvan@netzero.net> said in rec.autos.driving:
>Hm, wouldn't the "chirp" also be a distraction? LOL!!
I can just picture it now: bimbo on a cell phone runs a red light and T-bones another car. She blames the crash on the "loud chirping sound" that came out of her phone; she claims it startled her and caused her to lose control of her car.
The jury buys it and awards the bitch $100 million.
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bugalugs - 05 Jan 2007 22:16 GMT > "MLOM" <grvan@netzero.net> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > The jury buys it and awards the bitch $100 million. Or alternatively "I didn't hear a chirp so I didn't slow down"
Steve B - 04 Jan 2007 03:51 GMT > Forget this stupid chirp sh.t - what we really need is an alert that > tells drivers "HANG UP AND DRIVE!" [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > the system has been demonstrated in cities such as West Hollywood, > California. I bought, but was not shipped, a cell phone jammer from a company in Europe. I was given a full refund. Apparently, there is some sort of prohibition from them being sold in the US.
I am so tired of people talking on cell phones. While driving. While in line next to you. At restaurants. AND THEY ALL TALK LOUD, like they're talking to someone at the other end with a string and a can. I would love to be able to just punch a button and end the self-absorbed twit's conversation.
I will buy one of these when I can find a shipper or a geek that knows how to make one.
Steve
Eeyore - 04 Jan 2007 04:37 GMT > "Scott en Aztlán" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > to be able to just punch a button and end the self-absorbed twit's > conversation. The sheer rudeness of these ppl is quite staggering. It shouldn't be tolerated in restaurants.
Graham
Larry Bud - 04 Jan 2007 14:43 GMT > I am so tired of people talking on cell phones. While driving. While in > line next to you. At restaurants. How is someone talking on a phone at a restaurant or in line any different than if the other person was standing next them, except for the fact that you feel left out of the conversation because you can't hear both sides?
Scott en Aztlán - 04 Jan 2007 15:42 GMT "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> said in rec.autos.driving:
>> I am so tired of people talking on cell phones. While driving. While in >> line next to you. At restaurants. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >the fact that you feel left out of the conversation because you can't >hear both sides? The answer most commonly given: people on cellphones TEND TO SHOUT and/or repeat themselves because their connection is poor - stuff that doesn't happen when two people are having a conversation side-by-side.
I was sitting at the train station one time and overheard the following cell phone conversation:
Hi, Suzy? Hi, Suzt? It's Mark. It's Mark. How are you doing? How are you doing? I'm fine. I'm fine.
Yes, this shithead literally REPEATED EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE he said! For at least 20 minutes!! Thank God for my iRiver portable jukebox - I can be sitting in a railcar surrounded by people talking on their phones and all I hear is Howard Stern. :)
A Walkman doesn't help in a restaurant or a movie theater, however. Which is why the movie theaters around here tell people no less than THREE times before the start of every movie to silence their cell phones.
MFFYs don't stop being MFFYs just because they're no longer in their cars.
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Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers) - 06 Jan 2007 13:21 GMT Someone wrote:
>"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >MFFYs don't stop being MFFYs just because they're no longer in their >cars. Thursday I was driving back from lunch in a 35mph zone when I got trapped by some idiot driving a brand new caddie, cell phone plastered to his ear, at 10mph through the zone. He was in the right lane, and I needed to turn right at the end of the block I caught up to him on. I had observed him from a distance, but considering the proximity I was to him, and the traffic passing on the left, I was trapped behind the retard. When we got to the turn, we both turned right, but I took the right lane, stomped it, then cut back into the left lane, slammed on the breaks, issued my left turn signal. The segment of road I had to get back in to take my immediate left after the right is very short, so I nearly ran the SOB off the road. If I had been driving something like an old Bronco, I would have ate his car up and left the scene.
I can't wait until we hit the 50,000 dead morons per year rate; it will be a VERY GOOD THING. Even better when we make it to 100,000, but unfortunately the rate of progression isn't great enough that I'll observe this celebration in my lifetime.
 Signature gpstard (gpsman@driversmail.com) demonstrates his inability to comprehend the simple differences of the definitions of the monosyllabic words "time" and "chance:" (Message-ID: <1167151218.287827.24230@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com>) Why don't you argue that the faster one drives the less time spent driving and available to be involved in an accident?
"Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity: the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en "Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's ability to operate a vehicle: I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash.
: http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en Joshua Calvert <joshua_l_calvert@hotmail.com> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy": Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event. Message-ID: <Xns970A68202F1C5joshualcalverthotmai@68.6.19.6>
Scott en Aztlán - 06 Jan 2007 17:42 GMT "Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers)" <stfu@microsoft.com> said in rec.autos.driving:
>Thursday I was driving back from lunch in a 35mph zone when I got >trapped by some idiot driving a brand new caddie, cell phone plastered >to his ear, at 10mph through the zone. Cell phone use and Sloth go hand in hand. Yesterday during my little lunchtime errand run, there was a minivan doing about 35 MPH in a 50 MPH zone. Cars were piling up behind it and pouring around like it was a stone in a stream. As I passed, I glanced in at the driver. It was a dumb c.nt on a cell phone.
This is why I'm not going to shed any tears when that new cell phone law takes effect in CA. And violators will be easy for the cops to find - just look for the Sloths.
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Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers) - 08 Jan 2007 12:43 GMT Someone wrote:
>Cell phone use and Sloth go hand in hand. Yesterday during my little >lunchtime errand run, there was a minivan doing about 35 MPH in a 50 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >law takes effect in CA. And violators will be easy for the cops to >find - just look for the Sloths. What new law is that? I'm sure we'll end up with it soon enough out here. :-) Is a good law going to be blowing eastward?
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Scott en Aztlán - 08 Jan 2007 14:56 GMT "Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers)" <stfu@microsoft.com> said in rec.autos.driving:
>>This is why I'm not going to shed any tears when that new cell phone >>law takes effect in CA. And violators will be easy for the cops to >>find - just look for the Sloths. > >What new law is that? I'm sure we'll end up with it soon enough out >here. :-) Is a good law going to be blowing eastward? http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/press-release/3910/
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Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers) - 09 Jan 2007 00:53 GMT Someone wrote:
>"Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad >Mothers)" <stfu@microsoft.com> said in rec.autos.driving: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/press-release/3910/ Damned, I was hopeful... :-(
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Steve B - 04 Jan 2007 16:25 GMT >> I am so tired of people talking on cell phones. While driving. While in >> line next to you. At restaurants. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the fact that you feel left out of the conversation because you can't > hear both sides? Because most of the time these people speak in a loud voice as if to say, "Look at me. I have a cell phone." And they then discuss loudly some very intimate details of their lives, health, and body functions.
Steve
Eeyore - 04 Jan 2007 23:09 GMT > >> I am so tired of people talking on cell phones. While driving. While in > >> line next to you. At restaurants. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > "Look at me. I have a cell phone." And they then discuss loudly some very > intimate details of their lives, health, and body functions. Quite frankly if someone accompanying me did that I'd ask them to stop. If they didn't, I'd consider leaving. They can pay the restaurant bill too. If they didn't understand why it was rude I wouldn't socialise with them again and make it entirely clear why. If more ppl did that it might help.
Graham
Scott en Aztlán - 05 Jan 2007 03:38 GMT Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving:
>Quite frankly if someone accompanying me did that I'd ask them to stop. If they >didn't, I'd consider leaving. They can pay the restaurant bill too. If they >didn't understand why it was rude I wouldn't socialise with them again and make >it entirely clear why. If more ppl did that it might help. If that companion is your date and she takes a call during dinner, you should most definitely get up and leave IMMEDIATELY. That call is from the guy she's going to bang later that night after you drop her off at home after buying her that nice dinner.
This is the word of the Leykis. Thanks be to Tom!
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Eeyore - 05 Jan 2007 04:36 GMT > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> said in > rec.autos.driving: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the guy she's going to bang later that night after you drop her off at > home after buying her that nice dinner. LOL ! Many a true word said in jest too.
Graham
John C. - 04 Jan 2007 10:29 GMT > Forget this stupid chirp sh.t - what we really need is an alert that > tells drivers "HANG UP AND DRIVE!" http://www.detroit-auto-show.autoblog.com/2006/04/21/chirp-alerts-cell-gabbing-d river-of-stoplight-intersection/
> Chirp alerts cell-gabbing driver of intersection > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > approaching within one hundred feet of a stoplight or a certain > distance from an intersection, the cellphone will emit a loud 'chirp' <snip>
To hell with the "chirp", it should emit a sharp, rusty nail. -- John C.
Harry K - 04 Jan 2007 14:33 GMT Scott en Aztl?n wrote:
> Forget this stupid chirp sh.t - what we really need is an alert that > tells drivers "HANG UP AND DRIVE!" [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > I hate speediots - especially Carl Troller. Looks to me like a better solution would be a gps phone tracking the traveling speed and shut it off above a certain speed, say anything over a fast walking pace. To shut down the 'but what about emergency reporting?" twits - simple, disable it if the phone is on a 911 call.
Harry K
Robert Maas, see http://tinyurl.com/uh3t - 29 Sep 2007 21:36 GMT > From: "Harry K" <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> > Looks to me like a better solution would be a gps phone tracking the > traveling speed and shut it off above a certain speed, say anything > over a fast walking pace. To shut down the 'but what about emergency > reporting?" twits - simple, disable it if the phone is on a 911 call. Well that's reasonable, but still seems to have problems. I can imagine all these drivers going 3 MPH in the slow lane of the freeway so they can call somebody to tell them they're running late, or ask which offramp to take. Or somebody calling 911 to ask for driving directions because that's the only number they can call from the freeway without slowing to 3 MPH.. I wonder if comp.risks (Risks Digest) has any discussions on this topic?
It seems to me that talking on a cellphone with headset, so you still have both hands on the wheel, is the same as having somebody sitting next to you or in the back seat trying to talk with you, both equally distracting, except for: - A passender can see a problem and warn you LOOK OUT, whereas somebody on your cellphone can't do that for you. - If you slam on the brakes because of an emergency, a passenger will usually immediately SHUT UP so you can regain your concentration on the emergency, whereas somebody on a cell phone won't even shut up after you yell SHUT UP over and over, will in fact be demanding to know what the problem is, further distracting you. - A passenger can compare the map to road signs, relieving you of that task, whereas somebody on a cellphone providing you with driving directions still can't see the road signs so you need to do that yourself. The newer in-car navigation systems using your GPS radio to know where you are at all times would seem to solve that problem. But people in older cars with only cellphones can't do that.
But I'm just brainstorming here. When I used to have a car, I didn't have a cellphone, and 99.9% of the time I didn't have a passenger either. So I don't really know how distracting a cellphone or even a passenger would be, and my car was too old to have GPS. But the digital radio in my last car was nice: I didn't have to fiddle with the dial to tune in FM stations exactly right to get decent reception!
Checked GG just now, yeah several old threads on cellphones while driving in comp.risks, gonna have a look at them.
Link from Risks Digest 24.17 to: <http://www.straightdope.com/columns/060210.html> Ah, that's fun, cellphone photo of penis helps diagnosis herpes.
Risks Digest 23.72: Article mentions cellphone virus infecting automobile, then similar incident possible on airliner: A passenger is sitting in an airliner using his laptop, and on the screen appears: Bluetooth: new device found: Airbus A310
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