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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / January 2007Take the cameras out of the schools, banks, and offices and put them on the HIGHWAYS
99% of the people in america don't break any laws except when they get on the roads. Then nearly all of them turn into criminals who by their speeding and drunk driving and red light running and other assorted crimes kill 42,000 americans a year and injure millions and cost hundreds of billions of $. !!! Criminal driving is by far the commonest and deadliest and costliest crime in america and that's what we should focus on. > 99% of the people in america don't break any laws except when they get > on the roads. Then nearly all of them turn into criminals who by [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > commonest and deadliest and costliest crime in america and that's what > we should focus on. Sorry, but it just won't work. There's too much of an attitude problem among drivers. Drivers see driving as a right rather than a privilege, and anything that interferes with that "right" is viewed as Nazi or Big Brother in nature. Just look at the permanent adolescents in this group who can't even bring themselves to understand the concept of policemen. Until the attitude changes, nothing else will. Steve > Sorry, but it just won't work. There's too much of an attitude problem > among drivers. Drivers see driving as a right rather than a privilege, and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Until the attitude changes, nothing else will. It is Big Brother. You'd have to be pretty dumb to not realize that. If you have reasonable laws and treat drivers as adults and with respect, then many of the problems on the road would go away. Next thing to do is to have better driver education and, and just as importantly, driver training. Then you would see a really huge drop in problems on the road. Until then we will continue the stupid game of cops and robbers that goes on the road know. Cops treat everyone like a criminal and enforce stupid laws that annoy the citizens. So they don't get the respect they think they deserve. ----------------------- Alex > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote in > message news:1167929462.223529.140560@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > commonest and deadliest and costliest crime in america and that's what > we should focus on. I find the cell phone drivers are worse than the drunk drivers. Nearby school has the moms in their SUV's always blowing through the signal every day. We had the local news cover the increasing number of kids who "text message" while driving. All admitted to looking up and nearly causing - or have caused - an accident. We don't multi-task as well as we think we do. B~ > > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote in > > message news:1167929462.223529.140560@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > B~ It's just insane that such activities are legal. Cell phones should be banned from cars as should radios and CDs. > > > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote in > > > message news:1167929462.223529.140560@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > It's just insane that such activities are legal. Cell phones should be > banned from cars as should radios and CDs. Here is a rare occasion of a bit of agreement...I agree with the topic of the OP, but the cameras should be in the CARS for recording the stupid activities of the drivers (including cops). The cops have used this method for quite a while, as has Scott for our entertainment. Going a bit further: ANYTHING can be a distraction to a driver, including other drivers, road signs and cops. Perhaps we should play it safe and ban driving altogether. Yeah, that'll fly like a lead balloon. > > > > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote in > > > > message news:1167929462.223529.140560@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > it safe and ban driving altogether. Yeah, that'll fly like a lead > balloon. I'm trying to think of what happened the last time someone said something like "that'll fly like a led balloon......." > > > > > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote in > > > > > message news:1167929462.223529.140560@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > I'm trying to think of what happened the last time someone said > something like "that'll fly like a led balloon......." A phrase similar to that gave the band Led Zeppelin its name. > Going a bit further: ANYTHING can be a distraction to a driver, > including other drivers, road signs and cops. Perhaps we should play > it safe and ban driving altogether. Yeah, that'll fly like a lead > balloon. Oh would you shut up with moronic "taking things to extremes" bullshit of yours. No one is talking about banning road signs, you nitwit, so stop comparing them to cell phones!! >It's just insane that such activities are legal. Cell phones should be >banned from cars as should radios and CDs. and speedometers Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Rob said in rec.autos.driving: > >It's just insane that such activities are legal. Cell phones should be > >banned from cars as should radios and CDs. > > and speedometers And shitty drivers in oil burning cloud emitting POS's like SADDAM.  SignatureLBMHB/lb-VH/SADDAM supports the troops: "Like hell. The Morons will just get a couple other jarheads to take the place of these two. " --Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, Sept 13, 2006 10:43PM Ref: http://tinyurl.com/y6gbk2 Message ID: dujhg25i1fecsoh791df5qe1fmk7fiu0na@4ax.com > > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote in > > message news:1167929462.223529.140560@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > school has the moms in their SUV's always blowing through the signal every > day. That's probably true, and I am always hearing people always saying that no one should be allowed to use a cell phone while driving a car. But just with the SHEER NUMBER of people I see talking on cell phones and driving (often poorly), I think there are definitely some people out there claiming that cell phones while driving should be outlawed but they themselves still use them. > > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote in > > message news:1167929462.223529.140560@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > We don't multi-task as well as we think we do. How about cars having a sensor that detects cellphone transmissions inside the cabin of a car and turns off the ignition ? Graham > > > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote in > > > message news:1167929462.223529.140560@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Graham It would work only if programmed to also apply the brakes and guide the car to the shoulder. Also it should only enable the ignition after the transmission ends. > How about cars having a sensor that detects cellphone transmissions inside the > cabin of a car and turns off the ignition ? > > Graham Not nearly serious enough. I propose that whenever a sensor reads a cellphone transmission coming from the driver seat, the driver's compartment should be filled up with shaving cream. :-) > > How about cars having a sensor that detects cellphone transmissions inside the > > cabin of a car and turns off the ignition ? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cellphone transmission coming from the driver seat, the driver's > compartment should be filled up with shaving cream. :-) I like your thinking ! Graham > > > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote in > > > message news:1167929462.223529.140560@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Graham Screw that expensive tech solution. What we need is a law that says if are invovled in a fatal crash and it's determined you were on a cell phone at the time, then it's automatic 50 years in the can. And that should apply even if you did NOT cause the crash, since if you had been off the phone you prolly would have avoided the crash. Stop coddling these deadly cell phone drivers. Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS read some gay kid porn and then spewed this crapola in rec.autos.driving: > Screw that expensive tech solution. What we need is a law that says if > are invovled in a fatal crash and it's determined you were on a cell > phone at the time, then it's automatic 50 years in the can. And that > should apply even if you did NOT cause the crash, since if you had been > off the phone you prolly would have avoided the crash. Stop coddling > these deadly cell phone drivers. Your idea makes about as much sense as giving someone like you a drivers license. WHy don't you go take a flying leap? SignatureLoco laura bush - VEHICULAR shows us all - yet again - what an idiot it really is: "Radios shouldn't be in cars either. Only an idiot would argue that." --laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE, 8/5/06 Ref:http://tinyurl.com/hwevv Message ID: fp68d21f99pa2bnn471lsss02nq0pkfa7j@4ax.com Here's a better idea, shove them up the a.s of some gvt agency director. Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Ashton Crusher said in rec.autos.driving: > Here's a better idea, shove them up the a.s of some gvt agency > director. Better yet, shove them up the OP's a.s. SignatureAunt Judy demonstrates its lack of understanding of the concept of "</killfile>," and "<killfile>," and what a "thread," is: "Now that takes nerve. You claim to killfile me TWICE in the same thread and you expect people to take you seriously???" Ref: http://tinyurl.com/r5qp9 > 99% of the people in america don't break any laws except when they get > on the roads. Then nearly all of them turn into criminals who by [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > commonest and deadliest and costliest crime in america and that's what > we should focus on. How true. I say we start by putting one in your vehicle first. Then we can see how well it works. ------------------ Alex > > 99% of the people in america don't break any laws except when they get > > on the roads. Then nearly all of them turn into criminals who by [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > ------------------ > Alex Won't see anything. I'm a slow safe driver. Anyway, the idea is not to put them in cars but to have them along the roads to catch the deadly criminal drivers in the act. >> > 99% of the people in america don't break any laws except when they get >> > on the roads. Then nearly all of them turn into criminals who by [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Won't see anything. I'm a slow safe driver. Judy, you can be ticketed in many states for driving too slowly. SignaturePat O'Connell [note munged EMail address] Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints, Kill nothing but vandals... Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS the connisseur of gay kid porn and goat jizz spewed forth this crapola in rec.autos.driving: > > > 99% of the people in america don't break any laws except when they get > > > on the roads. Then nearly all of them turn into criminals who by [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Won't see anything. I'm a slow safe driver. Like hell you are. You are an admitted speeder who has been caught endangering the lices of children in schoolzones, you selfish liar. > Anyway, the idea is not to > put them in cars but to have them along the roads to catch the deadly > criminal drivers in the act. What's the matter? Afraid the camera will show you gluing sandpaper to your "tars," or fumbling for a flashlight while driving?? Signature"My dash lights burned out years ago. Just keep a cheapie flashlight on the seat." --Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend, 12 Nov 2005 18:11:38 -0800 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/akxtu Message ID: 1131847898.473454.275...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com > Won't see anything. I'm a slow Yes, we all know you are slow. Most would just call you dim witted. >safe driver. I doubt it. You've described your behavior and it is anything but safe. > Anyway, the idea is not to > put them in cars but to have them along the roads to catch the deadly > criminal drivers in the act. If you have police actually patrolling the roads, instead of hiding in the bushes, you would not need to do this. Not only that but cops patrolling the roads act as a deterrent. ----------------- Alex > If you have police actually patrolling the roads, instead of hiding in > the bushes, you would not need to > do this. Not only that but cops patrolling the roads act as a > deterrent. > ----------------- > Alex Neither way will work until it's combined with stiff penalties like jail time and license suspensions. Let's stop coddling these killers with fines!!! Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, a voracious consumer of gay kid porn and molester of 8 year old boys, spewed forth this crap in rec.autos.driving: > > If you have police actually patrolling the roads, instead of hiding in > > the bushes, you would not need to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > jail time and license suspensions. Let's stop coddling these killers > with fines!!! You first, Cupcake. Signature-- Loco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend (a.k.a. SADDAM) admits to being a deadly speeder, psychopath and criminal coddler: "> Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit? Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5 years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open stretch could be 25, i thought." Pride of America (c.k.a. Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/ laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE/Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are Murderers (SADDAM)), 10/3/2002 Message-ID: <3c1753f7.0210030916.7b6f5dff@posting.google.com> http://tinyurl.com/5u4wg Proof that POA is LBMHB/lbVH/SADDAM: See the following: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj > 99% of the people in america don't break any laws except when they get > on the roads. Then nearly all of them turn into criminals who by [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > commonest and deadliest and costliest crime in america and that's what > we should focus on. Unfortunately, the numbers don't quite add up: http://www.iihs.org/news/2006/iihs_news_081006.pdf It appears the death rate has gone _down_ despite the ever increasing usage of cell phones during the same time period. bob z. Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), bob zee said in rec.autos.driving: > > 99% of the people in america don't break any laws except when they get > > on the roads. Then nearly all of them turn into criminals who by [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > It appears the death rate has gone _down_ despite the ever increasing > usage of cell phones during the same time period. Note how the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety is quick to claim that drivers have not improved. Could there be a financial reason for this?? SignatureLoco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend admits to being a red light runner: "The cameras don't catch everyone. I have never been nailed for this." Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend, 5/9/06 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/ee4wq Message ID: 9nb162p1idam39jhmv5s2g0b7booh67stc@4ax.com bob zee wrote: <brevity snip/groups adjusted> > > 99% of the people in america don't break any laws except when they get > > on the roads. Then nearly all of them turn into criminals who by [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > It appears the death rate has gone _down_ despite the ever increasing > usage of cell phones during the same time period. I tend to be more interested in the number of crashes as opposed to fatalities. (Interestingly, according to the graph on page 32 of this report, if you're going to crash, the more drunk you are the less likely you'll die... and some alcohol is better than no alcohol. Drunk drivers seem to be becoming more proficient at killing the dead-sober.) http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-30/NCSA/TSFAnn/TSF2005.pdf And it seems crashes are down overall in 2005, following an undeniable trend. Which is entirely contradictory to my expectations, and observations. When I commuted to downtown Cincy in the 1980s, there was rarely a rush hour crash on I-71, a few per week, tops, and sometimes none. Today it seems there are multiple crashes on -every- interstate and major highway in the area. You can check out the Greater Cincinnati traffic at http://www.artimis.org/ I don't know what to make of it... ----- - gpsman > > 99% of the people in america don't break any laws except when they get > > on the roads. Then nearly all of them turn into criminals who by [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > It appears the death rate has gone _down_ despite the ever increasing > usage of cell phones during the same time period. That's a lie but even if it was true, it wouldn't prove anything. Hell, you might as well say murder rates dropped last year so we can just go ahead and make murder legal!!! THINK, you nitwit. > That's a lie but even if it was true, it wouldn't prove anything. > Hell, you might as well say murder rates dropped last year so we can > just go ahead and make murder legal!!! THINK, you nitwit. Why are you so mean to me? I am not a nitwit. :~( bob z. |
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