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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / January 2007Bangor, Maine, makes it illegal to smoke in cars with children present
They're going after the second hand smoke angle but the real problem with smoking drivers is the same as the problem with drivers on cell phones or playing with the radio or eating food. Holding a burning stick in your hand while driving increases your chances of losing control and killing some innocent person. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/09/ap/health/mainD8MHRQEO1.shtml Bangor, Maine, makes it illegal to smoke in cars with children present BANGOR, Maine, Jan. 9, 2007 (AP) The Bangor City Council approved a measure Monday that prohibits people from smoking in vehicles when children are present. When the law goes into effect next week, Bangor will become the first municipality in Maine to have such a law. Similar statewide measures have been adopted in Arkansas and Louisiana and are under consideration in several other states. People who smoke with children present in the confined space of a car or truck might as well be deliberately trying to kill those children, said City Councilor Patricia Blanchette, who is a smoker. "Let's step up to the plate and lead; our children are worth the fight," she said. The ordinance, which was approved by a 6-3 vote, applies to any motor vehicles on any public roads within the city. Violators face fines of up to $50. (snip) Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS after its daily session with the gay kid porn and the goats left this crapola in rec.autos.driving: << ECP removed >> <<gay kid porn and other crap flushed >> > Holding a burning stick in your hand while driving increases > your chances of losing control and killing some innocent person. Then only risk I have of losing control of my car is because I have to share the road with the likes of you and yours with your bald "tars," no emergency brakes and other inoperative safety equipment.  Signature"My tars have been bald for two years. Every month i glue some sandpaper to them and everythings cool." --Laura Buch murdered her boyfriend / laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE 10/25/05 Message ID: s2ttl1tgnpq5pr6p48lr111p3lnvr4blch@4ax.com http://tinyurl.com/7p7xq I can see the real problem. Bangor's city government has way too much money to waste. If it can have its police hassle people just for smoking Marlboros in their cars, either Bangor lacks serious crime worth the number of officers it has - or it neglects serious crime. No $4 to park! No $6 admission! http://www.INTERNET-GUN-SHOW.com > I can see the real problem. Bangor's city government has way too > much money to waste. If it can have its police hassle people just for > smoking Marlboros in their cars, either Bangor lacks serious crime > worth the number of officers it has - or it neglects serious crime. It's government treating the population as children as if it were an grade school class room. This is 'when children are present' so obviously it was pushed through under the 'it's for the children' excuse. Of course the real annoyance from smokers in cars is the fling of still lit butts and embers outside their vehicle at anyone behind them. Sometimes I wish I had a pack of sigs in my car so I could light one, pass the arsehole who just threw one at my car, and throw one back at his. > Of course the real annoyance from smokers in cars is the fling of still lit > butts and embers outside their vehicle at anyone behind them. Sometimes I > wish I had a pack of sigs in my car so I could light one, pass the arsehole > who just threw one at my car, and throw one back at his. I have to agree with you here. I'm so sick and tired of people flicking that garbage out of the window it's not even funny. Charles R. Whealton Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com > They're going after the second hand smoke angle but the real problem > with smoking drivers is the same as the problem with drivers on cell > phones or playing with the radio or eating food. Holding a burning > stick in your hand while driving increases your chances of losing > control and killing some innocent person. (snip) It's one thing to hold the burning stick, but God forbid that the smoking driver DROP that stick on his lap or onto the floor carpet! That would be much worse. Or if the smoking driver would throw the smoldering cigarette butt out the window and set your sandpaper tire treadwork afire.... > They're going after the second hand smoke angle but the real problem > with smoking drivers is the same as the problem with drivers on cell > phones or playing with the radio or eating food. Holding a burning > stick in your hand while driving increases your chances of losing > control and killing some innocent person. I still can't believe the United States allows cigarett... I mean, cancer sticks, to be sold. > > They're going after the second hand smoke angle but the real problem > > with smoking drivers is the same as the problem with drivers on cell [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I still can't believe the United States allows cigarett... I mean, > cancer sticks, to be sold. Then you don't know america. Big Tobacco pays millions of $ every year to our congressmen to let the cancer sticks be sold and that's that. AMERICA = TOTAL CORRUPTION Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS said in rec.autos.driving: > > > They're going after the second hand smoke angle but the real problem > > > with smoking drivers is the same as the problem with drivers on cell [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > to our congressmen to let the cancer sticks be sold and that's that. > AMERICA = TOTAL CORRUPTION Its called "freedom of choice," domkop. You don't like the idea, then you are free to leave America, poephol. Signature"But hoe are we to get out f.cking CAR back to the f.cking HOUSE? How are we supposed to get f.cking HOME, Man???" --Sam Kinison >> > They're going after the second hand smoke angle but the real problem >> > with smoking drivers is the same as the problem with drivers on cell [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > to our congressmen to let the cancer sticks be sold and that's that. > AMERICA = TOTAL CORRUPTION The first settlement in America, Jamestown, thrived on tobacco. They grew it because people wanted it. People bought it because they wanted it. More people came and grew more tobacco. Then came the Pilgrims... Sherman. > > Then you don't know america. Big Tobacco pays millions of $ every year > > to our congressmen to let the cancer sticks be sold and that's that. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it because people wanted it. People bought it because they wanted it. More > people came and grew more tobacco. Then came the Pilgrims... Sherman. Thanks for the ancient history lesson. Now explain why nicotene is legal TODAY while so many less harmful drugs are banned. THINK Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers) - 11 Jan 2007 03:37 GMT >> > Then you don't know america. Big Tobacco pays millions of $ every year >> > to our congressmen to let the cancer sticks be sold and that's that. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Thanks for the ancient history lesson. Now explain why nicotene is >legal TODAY while so many less harmful drugs are banned. THINK When's the last time you read a news report of someone getting shot over a pack of cigarettes? BWAHAHAHA! Signaturegpstard (gpsman@driversmail.com) demonstrates his inability to comprehend the simple differences of the definitions of the monosyllabic words "time" and "chance:" (Message-ID: <1167151218.287827.24230@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com>) Why don't you argue that the faster one drives the less time spent driving and available to be involved in an accident? "Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity: the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en "Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's ability to operate a vehicle: I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash. : http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en Joshua Calvert <joshua_l_calvert@hotmail.com> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy": Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event. Message-ID: <Xns970A68202F1C5joshualcalverthotmai@68.6.19.6> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote: <brevity snip/groups adjusted> I don't know why you retards help this retard to pollute other groups. > "Let's step up to the plate and lead; our children are worth the > fight," she said. Worry about your own children, leave those of others alone. It's none of your f.cking business. ----- - gpsman Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers) - 11 Jan 2007 03:50 GMT >Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote: <brevity snip/groups >adjusted> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Worry about your own children, leave those of others alone. It's none >of your f.cking business. Homosexuals like "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" typically don't procreate. Losers like "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" aren't given the chance to, regardless of their sexual preferences. Signaturegpstard (gpsman@driversmail.com) demonstrates his inability to comprehend the simple differences of the definitions of the monosyllabic words "time" and "chance:" (Message-ID: <1167151218.287827.24230@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com>) Why don't you argue that the faster one drives the less time spent driving and available to be involved in an accident? "Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity: the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en "Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's ability to operate a vehicle: I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash. : http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en Joshua Calvert <joshua_l_calvert@hotmail.com> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy": Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event. Message-ID: <Xns970A68202F1C5joshualcalverthotmai@68.6.19.6> > They're going after the second hand smoke angle but the real problem > with smoking drivers is the same as the problem with drivers on cell > phones or playing with the radio or eating food. Holding a burning > stick in your hand while driving increases your chances of losing > control and killing some innocent person. It's the whole liberal nanny-state trying to take over. And don't let Republicans who favor smoking legislation make you think this is not liberalism at its heart. I can light a cigarette in a 70 mph wind without even thinking about it and the only time I drop a cigarette is when I'm 3 sheets to the wind - and I NEVER drive when I'm more than 1 sheet to the wind. I also NEVER EVER litter ANYTHING. If you think smoking while driving is such a distraction, then your next "war" will be against stereos in cars since it's more difficult to push a preset on your radio than it is to light and smoke a cigarette. As for smoking around children, I don't do it at all and will go out of my way to avoid letting a child even catch a whiff of my cancer-stick, but if anyone thinks it's such a big deal, perhaps I have a good case against all the adults who smoked around me when I was a kid including drivers of cars I was an involuntary passenger in. And of course, the next step is to ban smoking in people's homes even if they do NOT have small children because god forbid you hire a plumber to come fix your toilet and he (or she) is exposed to lingering second hand smoke present in your home. I say if the plumber doesn't like it, he can refuse to enter your home and refuse to collect your money. I choose to smoke. I know it's "BAD, M'KAY". I don't give a sh.t. We all gotta die of something. > If you think smoking while driving is such a distraction, then your next > "war" will be against stereos in cars since it's more difficult to push > a preset on your radio than it is to light and smoke a cigarette. I am against radios and CDs and cell phones in cars. Just insane the way nuts like you think driving a 4000 pound vehicle at 60 mph on PUBLIC roads should be fun !!! Get help please, you dangerous psychopath. > > If you think smoking while driving is such a distraction, then your next > > "war" will be against stereos in cars since it's more difficult to push [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > PUBLIC roads should be fun !!! Get help please, you dangerous > psychopath. Your alternate means of getting emergency information to/from drivers is...? > > > If you think smoking while driving is such a distraction, then your next > > > "war" will be against stereos in cars since it's more difficult to push [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Your alternate means of getting emergency information to/from drivers > is...? I'd bet on arrest as the main means suggested. > > I am against radios and CDs and cell phones in cars. Just insane the > > way nuts like you think driving a 4000 pound vehicle at 60 mph on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Your alternate means of getting emergency information to/from drivers > is...? Get outa here you idiot. You're like the nuts who say drunk driving should be legal cause "Hey - what if my kid gets sick some time when i'm drunk and i have to drive her to the hospital ." I admit that sometimes radios in cars are useful. But in general they do 100 times more harm than good. THINK > > > I am against radios and CDs and cell phones in cars. Just insane the > > > way nuts like you think driving a 4000 pound vehicle at 60 mph on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I admit that sometimes radios in cars are useful. But in general they > do 100 times more harm than good. THINK Where does the 100 times figure come from? Care to share your research? How would you compare the percentage of drunk drivers claiming to need to drive a sick child to the hospital to the number of motorists in emergency situations requiring a telephone and/or radio? For that matter -- and shockingly, this may actually be something *useful* in this thread -- what's the data on lives saved by cell phones versus lives lost because of using them? Be sure to cite your sources, now. >> They're going after the second hand smoke angle but the real problem >> with smoking drivers is the same as the problem with drivers on cell [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Republicans who favor smoking legislation make you think this is not > liberalism at its heart. What nonsense.Pure crap. > I can light a cigarette in a 70 mph wind without even thinking about it > and the only time I drop a cigarette is when I'm 3 sheets to the wind - > and I NEVER drive when I'm more than 1 sheet to the wind. > > I also NEVER EVER litter ANYTHING. Oh,as if YOU are the typical smoker.You aren't.(if what you claim is true) More accurately,you are a rare exception.(if what you claim is true) > If you think smoking while driving is such a distraction, then your next > "war" will be against stereos in cars since it's more difficult to push > a preset on your radio than it is to light and smoke a cigarette. You probably think you can drive and talk on a cellphone with no loss of driving attention,too. You can't. > As for smoking around children, I don't do it at all and will go out of > my way to avoid letting a child even catch a whiff of my cancer-stick, > but if anyone thinks it's such a big deal, perhaps I have a good case > against all the adults who smoked around me when I was a kid including > drivers of cars I was an involuntary passenger in. Oh,that makes it OK.... (what a F-ing LAME excuse!) > And of course, the next step is to ban smoking in people's homes even if > they do NOT have small children because god forbid you hire a plumber to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I choose to smoke. I know it's "BAD, M'KAY". I don't give a sh.t. There's the crux of the problem,right there."I don't give a sh.t." > We > all gotta die of something. Too many smokers take other people along with them,though. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > (AP) The Bangor City Council approved a measure Monday that > prohibits people from smoking in vehicles when children are > present. Pretty timid, if you ask me. I'm sure that the precious kiddies spend more time with their smoking parents at home than they do in cars. The State needs to take the kids from their parents at birth so that they can be raised as Good Citizens. SignatureBert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com > > (AP) The Bangor City Council approved a measure Monday that > > prohibits people from smoking in vehicles when children are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I'm sure that the precious kiddies spend more time with their smoking > parents at home than they do in cars. What's timid about this plan is the penalty - $50. That won't do any good. Charge mummy with felony child endangerment and fine her $2,000 and put her on proabtion for 3 years might do some good. Stop coddling these criminal parents. |
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