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jaybird - 13 Jan 2007 04:51 GMT

"Kevin Craig" <kbcraig@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> In article <12qdjia834btgc3@news.supernews.com>, HeyBub
> <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "[FLORIDA] Kali Gillespie ... put up a yellow flashing light in her front
>> yard to warn drivers to slow down."
>>
>> Cops wrote her a ticket.
>>
>>http://www.wftv.com/news/10724090/detail.html
>
> Of course! Think of the ticket revenue they stood to lose!

Brilliant answer.

It's not about revenue, but about laws keeping people from posting signs
and/or lights within a certain distance from the roadway in violation of
uniform codes of traffic devices. If people placed mock speed limit signs
or
other things that would make a driver think they were official, it would
cause confusion. Use some common sense.

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necromancer - 13 Jan 2007 05:01 GMT

Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), jaybird said in
rec.autos.driving:

> > In article <12qdjia834btgc3@news.supernews.com>, HeyBub
> > <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
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> other things that would make a driver think they were official, it would
> cause confusion. Use some common sense.

Can someone verify for me that the sun still rises in the East? Because
if me and jaybird agree on something (like this) then there must be
something strange going on.

I liked how the woman said, "I don't consider it a traffic signal at
all. When I see a light like this, it's cautionary to me." I guess she's
never seen those flashing yellow lights that are over some
intersections?

FWIW, I'm surprised that the zoning enforcement people didn't go after
her too, because there's usually laws there regarding such things. I'd
hate to be the neighbor whose bedroom window that light shines into....

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Dave - 13 Jan 2007 08:46 GMT

> FWIW, I'm surprised that the zoning enforcement people didn't go after
> her too, because there's usually laws there regarding such things. I'd
> hate to be the neighbor whose bedroom window that light shines into....

Not to mention...if it's close enough to the road to have an impact on
traffic (at all), then it is NOT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. Take my house for
example. I know exactly where the boundaries of my property are, and my
property ends a little over 20 feet from the very edge of the SHOULDER of
the road that I live on. So any light I put up within 30 feet or so of an
actual TRAVEL lane of the road I live on would be something illegally
constructed on property that does not belong to me.

In the story mentioned, it's hard to tell exactly where the flashing light
is located, but in the video, it looks to be on a post set about 2 feet from
the curb of the roadside. The lady's property line probably starts10 feet
or so (at least) from where the light is posted. Most homeowners tend to
consider every inch of land out to the road to be their "front yard". But
if you have a public sidewalk going through your yard (for example), your
personally owned property probably has a frontal boundary on the inside of
that sidewalk. In other words, if you are standing on the sidewalk in front
of your house, then you are not on private property, but IN FRONT OF private
property. -Dave

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Matthew T. Russotto - 13 Jan 2007 16:22 GMT

>In the story mentioned, it's hard to tell exactly where the flashing light
>is located, but in the video, it looks to be on a post set about 2 feet from
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>of your house, then you are not on private property, but IN FRONT OF private
>property. -Dave

Often not true; the public sidewalk often goes through private
property, an easement rather than public ownership. Then the
homeowner gets the taxes and the liability and responsibility to
remove snow, but not the power to do anything with that land.

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Dave - 13 Jan 2007 23:35 GMT

>>In the story mentioned, it's hard to tell exactly where the flashing light
>>is located, but in the video, it looks to be on a post set about 2 feet
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> homeowner gets the taxes and the liability and responsibility to
> remove snow, but not the power to do anything with that land.

Yes, I'm aware of easements. However, I've never seen a private lot that
had a boundary so close to a public road that a post constructed ~2 feet
from the road would be on PRIVATE property. In fact, I've seen many legal
street signs posted farther from the shoulder of the road than the light in
that video was. And those legal road signs most certainly are NOT on
private property. Maybe the homeowner in question should have been charged
with littering? -Dave

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Brent P - 13 Jan 2007 07:04 GMT

> It's not about revenue, but about laws keeping people from posting signs
> and/or lights within a certain distance from the roadway in violation of
> uniform codes of traffic devices.

Let me know when cities start following that. I know for a fact that
judges in c(r)ook county don't understand what the MUTCD is nor that IL
law requires following it.

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