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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 19 Jan 2007 08:15 GMT http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16692196/
Driver gets life in prison for smuggling deaths 19 illegal immigrants died in nation's deadliest human trafficking attempt
Updated: 4:09 p.m. MT Jan 18, 2007
HOUSTON - A truck driver was sentenced to life in prison Thursday, avoiding a death sentence for his role in the United States' deadliest human smuggling attempt in which 19 illegal immigrants died from dehydration and suffocation inside an overheated tractor-trailer.
Tyrone Williams, 36, was convicted last month on 58 counts of conspiracy, harboring and transporting immigrants.
A jury deliberated for 5 1/2 days before sentencing Williams, himself an immigrant from Jamaica.
Williams was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for each of the 19 counts of transporting the illegal immigrants who died. U.S. District Judge Lee Rosenthal will sentence Williams on Aug. 23 for the remaining 38 counts of harboring and transporting immigrants and for the conspiracy count. The maximum sentence for the conspiracy count is life in prison.
Williams looked down as the verdict was read and gave no visible reaction. His attorney, former U.S. Rep. Craig Washington, wept and wiped his eyes with a tissue.
Prosecutor Daniel Rodriguez looked grim after the sentence was announced as his boss, U.S. Attorney Don DeGabrielle, spoke to reporters.
"We did everything we could to impose a sentence of death. Nineteen life sentences is not something to be disappointed about," DeGabrielle said. "One human being had the chance to let those people out. That was Tyrone Williams."
In May 2003, Williams' tractor-trailer was packed with more than 70 immigrants from Mexico, Central America and the Dominican Republic. As temperatures skyrocketed inside the airtight refrigerator truck, the immigrants kicked walls, clawed at insulation, broke out taillights and screamed for help.
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j89q8hm02@sneakemail.com - 19 Jan 2007 15:22 GMT He deserves a life sentence for bringing them in.
The fact that they died during the process I don't think should be held much against him. If we had more coyotes letting people suffocate perhaps it would provide more disincentive for illegals to come here.
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16692196/ > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > (snip) Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 19 Jan 2007 16:00 GMT > He deserves a life sentence for bringing them in. > > The fact that they died during the process I don't think should be held > much against him. If we had more coyotes letting people suffocate > perhaps it would provide more disincentive for illegals to come here. Yup - this sends a message that america is concerned about the welfare of the illegals invading this country. Looks like the corporations who make fortunes off the cheap illegal labor bribed the judge and jury. Happens every day.
gringogirl - 19 Jan 2007 17:37 GMT > > He deserves a life sentence for bringing them in. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > make fortunes off the cheap illegal labor bribed the judge and jury. > Happens every day. great observation! life sentence for smuggling not for letting them die ;0
j89q8hm02@sneakemail.com - 19 Jan 2007 17:49 GMT Lives in Iraq are only $2500 a head ... that's what we paid to the families of some innocents slaughtered recently.
But if you endanger Juan and Maria, the Bush family gardener and maid, you get life in prison.
Meanwhile our justice dept.s are eager to hunt down Mexican drug dealers, not to prosecute them but to offer them the chance to put 2 border guards in jail and sue our government ("I was just smuggling some dope peacefully, man, and this crazy dude shot me ... I want justice, man!"). Who made that decision, Cheech or Chong?
Meanwhile we continue to grant illegal aliens rights that Americans don't have, pissing everyone off BUT NOT YET TO THE POINT THEY SHOULD BE. The American people are an ignorant people, easily cowed by their leaders.
And our current President is a snake.
> > > He deserves a life sentence for bringing them in. > > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > great observation! life sentence for smuggling not for letting them die > ;0 gringogirl - 19 Jan 2007 18:06 GMT > Lives in Iraq are only $2500 a head ... that's what we paid to the > families of some innocents slaughtered recently. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > And our current President is a snake. i was agreeing with you- things are so sicko twisted in this country it is beyond belief
> > > > He deserves a life sentence for bringing them in. > > > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > great observation! life sentence for smuggling not for letting them die > > ;0 j89q8hm02@sneakemail.com - 19 Jan 2007 18:08 GMT Yeah I know you agreed. I read your posts and appreciate all the great information you bring. I was just venting my anger for everyone else.
> > Lives in Iraq are only $2500 a head ... that's what we paid to the > > families of some innocents slaughtered recently. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > > great observation! life sentence for smuggling not for letting them die > > > ;0 Steve B - 19 Jan 2007 18:40 GMT Now, for the good news .................
justice will be done in prison.
Any bets on how long this guy will live among a general population that has a large number of violent Hispanics?
I would think less than six months.
Time and time again, prison inmates handle doling out justice our courts can't or won't.
And, I think that the courts are wising up, too. Knowing that to send such people to prison for life is a death sentence, and that if they impose the death sentence, there is little likelihood that it will be carried out in the convicted person's lifetime.
Dead within six months, I'd say.
Steve
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 19 Jan 2007 21:49 GMT > Meanwhile we continue to grant illegal aliens rights that Americans > don't have, pissing everyone off BUT NOT YET TO THE POINT THEY SHOULD > BE. The American people are an ignorant people, easily cowed by their > leaders. I don't know if they're cowed so much as they realize nothing will be done since both parties are paid fortunes by the corporations that make even bigger fortunes off the cheap illegal labor.
AMERICA = TOTAL CORRUPTION.
j89q8hm02@sneakemail.com - 19 Jan 2007 22:51 GMT If enough Republicans can show favor to a Tom Tancredo rather than a John McCain, we can and will see the will of the people done and illegal aliens all over America will be scurrying back down South as fast as their bicycles and SUVs will take them.
> > Meanwhile we continue to grant illegal aliens rights that Americans > > don't have, pissing everyone off BUT NOT YET TO THE POINT THEY SHOULD [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > AMERICA = TOTAL CORRUPTION. Lets Roll - 20 Jan 2007 19:33 GMT >> > He deserves a life sentence for bringing them in. >> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > great observation! life sentence for smuggling not for letting them die > ;0 Yeah, and this sentence coming from Texas is shameful. He should have got the death penalty - for hauling a truck load of wetbacks into the country. Then he should have had the sentence commuted for killing some of them.
Ramon F Herrera - 20 Jan 2007 19:37 GMT > >> > He deserves a life sentence for bringing them in. > >> > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > He should have got the death penalty - for hauling a truck load of wetbacks > into the country. And every time you and your dying crowd use epithets such as "mestizo" or "wetback", lawmakers grow more confident in their belief that their decisions and plans are the appropriate path to follow (the one that leads to citizenship), in order to extirpate the white tumor.
-Ramon
halle - 20 Jan 2007 20:24 GMT Nyyseissä Ramon F Herrera väsäsi että:
>>>>> He deserves a life sentence for bringing them in. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > -Ramon The only tumor here, is between your shoulders. Why don't you extract it with, say, a .45 ACP round fired from a weapon of your choice.
Ramon F Herrera - 20 Jan 2007 20:28 GMT > Nyyseissä Ramon F Herrera väsäsi että: > >>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Why don't you extract it with, say, a .45 ACP round fired from a weapon of > your choice. Have you discussed those thoughts of self-pointing a firearm with your mental health provider?
Incidentally: I am as white as you can possibly get (except albinos). The only thing is that I belong to the majority, the good ones.
-Ramon
halle - 20 Jan 2007 20:31 GMT Nyyseissä Ramon F Herrera väsäsi että:
>> Nyyseissä Ramon F Herrera väsäsi että: >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Have you discussed those thoughts of self-pointing a firearm with your > mental health provider? I wasn't self-pointing, you were, cretin.
> Incidentally: I am as white as you can possibly get (except albinos). > The only thing is that I belong to the majority, the good ones. > > -Ramon Blonde hair and all?
Ramon F Herrera - 20 Jan 2007 20:45 GMT > Nyyseissä Ramon F Herrera väsäsi että: > >> Nyyseissä Ramon F Herrera väsäsi että: [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Blonde hair and all? Nope, my hair is brown. Does that mean the I don't qualify to get the better contracts for my company? (I don't qualify as an employee, as I am in the hiring side).
Since you are so adamant about giving special privileges to people with certain physical characteristics, I propose that we should base the hierarchy on the smell of the farts. Let's get a hold of a smell-o-meter and base all the appointments to those who have a certain highly desirable aroma.
Would you care to list all your personal achievements that your blond hair has afforded you? (notice that: "my daddy did such and such" or "my grandpa' achieved this or the other" are NOT acceptable answers).
-Ramon
halle - 20 Jan 2007 20:49 GMT Nyyseissä Ramon F Herrera väsäsi että:
>> Nyyseissä Ramon F Herrera väsäsi että: >>>> Nyyseissä Ramon F Herrera väsäsi että: [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > better contracts for my company? (I don't qualify as an employee, as I > am in the hiring side). No, it means your blood is tainted.
> Since you are so adamant about giving special privileges to people > with certain physical characteristics, I never wrote such a thing, so what I can conclude from your paranoid rambling is thus: take your pills, freak.
Ramon F Herrera - 20 Jan 2007 20:54 GMT > Nyyseissä Ramon F Herrera väsäsi että: > >> Nyyseissä Ramon F Herrera väsäsi että: [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > I never wrote such a thing, so what I can conclude from your paranoid > rambling is thus: take your pills, freak. 1 From: Ramon F Herrera - view profile Date: Sat, Jan 6 2007 7:34 pm Email: "Ramon F Herrera" <gopos...@jonjay.com> Groups: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics, alt.politics.economics, alt.politics.usa Rating: (1 user) hide options Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse | Find messages by this author
Some people have brains. Some people have money. Some people have artistic talent. Some people have capacity for hard work. Some people have athletic abilities. Heck, some people have a nose to distinguish a good wine.
Then there are those whose only remaining asset is a desperate cling to a group they perceive to belong. Presumably, their ancestors had some of the qualities above, and that has got to count for something, right? Right? Pleeeease? Right?
They have to be given preference for jobs and other positions, or homes and respect because their ancestors managed to arrive here first. What their ancestors did is transitive through generations...
RIGHT!?
-Ramon
Lets Roll - 20 Jan 2007 22:10 GMT halle wrote:
> Nyyseissä Ramon F Herrera väsäsi että: > > Lets Roll wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Why don't you extract it with, say, a .45 ACP round fired from a weapon of > your choice. Have you discussed those thoughts of self-pointing a firearm with your mental health provider?
Incidentally: I am as white as you can possibly get (except albinos). The only thing is that I belong to the majority, the good ones.
-Ramon the Dumbass Racist Venezuelan Pretending to be American
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Skin color is irrelevant, you racist rip-off of American identity.
Steve B - 21 Jan 2007 17:01 GMT > Skin color is irrelevant, you racist rip-off of American identity. But then, aren't we all racist rip-offs of the American identity?
When the white man came to this continent, he found a large population of "ignorant" people where there were no taxes, women did ALL of the menial work, and the men hunted and fished.
They said, "We are going to improve your way of life."
I would say that the truest color of a REAL American with more than twenty generations of heritage and residency would be slightly darker than the WASP supremacists who spew they are the chosen ones.
Just MHO, and I could be wrong .................
Steve
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 20 Jan 2007 23:27 GMT > And every time you and your dying crowd use epithets such as "mestizo" > or "wetback", lawmakers grow more confident in their belief that their > decisions and plans are the appropriate path to follow (the one that > leads to citizenship), in order to extirpate the white tumor. > > -Ramon Eat sh.t and die, ramon. We don't want you murdering muds in our country. You bought off the legislators but you can't buy off the american people !!!!!
Matthew T. Russotto - 21 Jan 2007 04:17 GMT >And every time you and your dying crowd use epithets such as "mestizo" >or "wetback", lawmakers grow more confident in their belief that their >decisions and plans are the appropriate path to follow (the one that >leads to citizenship), in order to extirpate the white tumor. "Mestizo" isn't even derogatory, nimrod.
 Signature There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one.
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