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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / January 2007Why doesn't Detroit make a car BUILT for low speeds
A car with a speed limiter set at say 70 mph. Lots of people would love that esp if they have teenage boys in the family. And I'm sure insurance premiums would be a lot less too. To keep owners from tampering with the limiter, the insurance companies could put a clause in the policy saying that tampering would nullify the policy. And it would also mean no lying cop could accuse you of doing 80 mph. That would save you speeding fines and in the event of a fatal crash might keep you out of jail. Lots of benefits to speed limited cars and yet no car maker will build one.!! Car crashes are big business and they don't want the gravy train to end. Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:<brevity snip/groups adjusted> > Lots of benefits to speed limited cars and yet no car maker will build > one.!! Car crashes are big business and they don't want the gravy > train to end. Duh. All vehicles are "speed limited". A governor may be installed by the owner to further limit speed, if they so desire. ----- - gpsman > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:<brevity snip/groups > adjusted> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Duh. All vehicles are "speed limited". A governor may be installed by > the owner to further limit speed, if they so desire. You idiot. Name one car that comes from the factory with a limiter set at 70 or less. It has to be factory installed to get the insurance and legal benefits, you hatefilled nitwit. Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers) - 21 Jan 2007 16:42 GMT >> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:<brevity snip/groups >> adjusted> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >at 70 or less. It has to be factory installed to get the insurance and >legal benefits, you hatefilled nitwit. Aw look, two fruitcakes found each other. Ain't' that sweet. And I thought fruitcakes were only a christmas thing.  Signaturegpstard (gpsman@driversmail.com) demonstrates his inability to comprehend the simple differences of the definitions of the monosyllabic words "time" and "chance:" (Message-ID: <1167151218.287827.24230@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com>) Why don't you argue that the faster one drives the less time spent driving and available to be involved in an accident? GPSboi demonstrates he doesn't understand the concept of "zero velocity": : http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/4b00dc234d5fd559 Please explain how you concluded a vehicle with a velocity of zero might be -the- contributing factor to a collision due to driver inattentiveness. "Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity: the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en "Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's ability to operate a vehicle: I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash. : http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en Joshua Calvert <joshua_l_calvert@hotmail.com> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy": Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event. Message-ID: <Xns970A68202F1C5joshualcalverthotmai@68.6.19.6> >A car with a speed limiter set at say 70 mph. Lots of people would love > that esp if they have teenage boys in the family. And I'm sure [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Lots of benefits to speed limited cars and yet no car maker will build > one.!! There's plenty that are self-limiting to between 70 and 80. Check out the chevy (daewoo?, I think) aveo. Good luck getting that sucker up to 85 if you are headed downhill with the wind at your back. And there's the Kia Rio and Hyundai Accent (same vehicle?). Scion (Toyota) xA is another good one, if it's slow you are looking for. I'm sure there are many models I missed, those are just the ones off the top of my head. They do make them. Only problem is, almost nobody will buy them. -Dave > There's plenty that are self-limiting to between 70 and 80. Check out the > chevy (daewoo?, I think) aveo. Good luck getting that sucker up to 85 if [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I'm sure there are many models I missed, those are just the ones off the > top of my head. others slow vehicules than I know Yugo and Lada if you still find one on the road > They do make them. Only problem is, almost nobody will buy them. -Dave Stéphane Dumas > "Dave" <never@not.invalid> a écrit > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > others slow vehicules than I know Yugo and Lada if you still find one on the > road Neither are made any longer. Graham In news:45B26C0F.FBAE51A2@hotmail.com Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote: >> others slow vehicules than I know Yugo and Lada if you still find one >> on the road > > Neither are made any longer. http://www.lada-auto.ru/ http://www.zastava10.com/ SignatureBert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com > >> others slow vehicules than I know Yugo and Lada if you still find one > >> on the road [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.zastava10.com/ Neither are available in the west AFAIK.. Graham >>>>others slow vehicules than I know Yugo and Lada if you still find one >>>>on the road [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Graham I think Ladas at least were available in Canada; I'm not aware that they ever were marketed in the US however. nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel >> There's plenty that are self-limiting to between 70 and 80. Check out >> the chevy (daewoo?, I think) aveo. Good luck getting that sucker up to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > others slow vehicules than I know Yugo and Lada if you still find one on > the road I remember seeing a Lada dealership near Montreal, along one of the autoroutes east of the St. Lawrence, when I drove through there in 1997. Still there? SignatureOscar Voss - oscar.voss@comcast.net or ovoss@erols.com - Arlington VA my Hot Springs and Highways pages: http://users.erols.com/ovoss/ Hawaii Highways: http://www.hawaiihighways.com/ > I remember seeing a Lada dealership near Montreal, along one of the > autoroutes east of the St. Lawrence, when I drove through there in 1997. > Still there? Unfortunately (or fortunately depending of which side you are ;-) there no Lada dealerships in Canada anymore Stéphane Dumas > A car with a speed limiter set at say 70 mph. Lots of people would love > that esp if they have teenage boys in the family. And I'm sure [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > one.!! Car crashes are big business and they don't want the gravy > train to end. Actually there are speed limiters: the "redline" engine speed as indicated on the models that have a tachometer. My vehicle redlines at 5000 rpm. I never have the rpm above 3000 as that would have me at 90 mph. Given the condition of most highways in Missouri, that speed is NUTS! 2000 rpm gets me at 60 which is more reasonable on the 2-lane roads. Also, the higher the engine revs, the louder the noise. <lure> It would be more of a distraction than a radio! </lure> (crap) They DO make cars built for low speeds. They are called "American Cars." Try a German car and be amazed at the difference! nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > (crap) > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > replace "fly" with "com" to reply. > http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel You are not mistaking the highly-promoted rice burners for American cars, are you? That would be understandable since so many rice burners are assembled in the USA (Honda in Ohio as an example). > (crap) > > They DO make cars built for low speeds. They are called "American > Cars." Try a German car and be amazed at the difference! > > nate Suit yourself but personally, i don't support nazis. >> (crap) >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Suit yourself but personally, i don't support nazis. Racist. > >> (crap) > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Racist. Bwahahahahaha ! Aunt Judy's a 'speed nazi'. She's one to talk. Graham Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), some dumbass SFB said in rec.autos.driving: > > (crap) > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Suit yourself but personally, i don't support nazis. Will you look at this: a fascist clusterfuck calling someone else a "nazi." Pot-->Kettle-->Black, adolf. SignatureLBMHB/lb-VH/SADDAM supports the troops: "Like hell. The Morons will just get a couple other jarheads to take the place of these two. " --Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, Sept 13, 2006 10:43PM Ref: http://tinyurl.com/y6gbk2 Message ID: dujhg25i1fecsoh791df5qe1fmk7fiu0na@4ax.com Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Nate Nagel said in rec.autos.driving: << reply limited to r.a.d >> > They DO make cars built for low speeds. They are called "American > Cars." Try a German car and be amazed at the difference! Now, what did the Mercedes (or the BWW, VW etc...) do to deserve that fate? ;) Signature"Years ago i had a vehicle in which i rigged up a switch so the horn would stay on continuously. I used it when backing up or when driving thru a congested area. Worked real well though it prolly wouldn't if everybody had one." --Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, a.k.a SADDAM, LBMHB, lb-VH.. 12/6/2006, 0141hrs Ref: http://tinyurl.com/y72pnu Message ID: 92pcn2dt4mhr8ojsapifkq07fuium5hish@4ax.com Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS, the conssumate lover of gay kid porn in rec.autos.driving spewed forth the following crapola today: << ECP removed >> > A car with a speed limiter set at say 70 mph. Lots of people would love > that esp if they have teenage boys in the family. And I'm sure Why 70? Why not that 55 that you are so fond of, loser??? > insurance premiums would be a lot less too. To keep owners from > tampering with the limiter, the insurance companies could put a clause > in the policy saying that tampering would nullify the policy. And it > would also mean no lying cop could accuse you of doing 80 mph. That > would save you speeding fines and in the event of a fatal crash might > keep you out of jail. You don't honestly believe that, now, do you? A cop can write down whatever he damn well feels like writing and the judge and the ins co will go along with him. As you are so fond of saying: THINK! > Lots of benefits to speed limited cars and yet no car maker will build > one.!! Because *nobody* will buy them, scheisskopf! > Car crashes are big business and they don't want the gravy > train to end. And Darwin doesn't want the train to end either. SignatureLoco Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend defends a known *DRUNK DRIVER*: "Teddy went off a single lane bridge with no guard rail at night. The real killer was the idiot who built the bridge. Next question." --Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend/laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE June 20th, 2006 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/zlnyz Message ID: qcch92lislem5sqq92qgf7hf9mlm847sgh@4ax.com There are low-speed "cars" on the market. There just isn't much DEMAND for them - in case you haven't noticed. How many mopeds and scooters do you see on the road? And - in places where they are street-legal - how many prettied-up golf carts do you see on the road? The reality is Americans want real cars. No $4 to park! No $6 admission! http://www.INTERNET-GUN-SHOW.com > There are low-speed "cars" on the market. There just isn't much > DEMAND for them - in case you haven't noticed. How many mopeds and > scooters do you see on the road? And - in places where they are > street-legal - how many prettied-up golf carts do you see on the road? > The reality is Americans want real cars. LYING $3 WHORE!!!! Name one car that comes from the factory with a speed limiter set at 70 or less!!!!!!!!!! >>There are low-speed "cars" on the market. There just isn't much >>DEMAND for them - in case you haven't noticed. How many mopeds and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > LYING $3 WHORE!!!! Name one car that comes from the factory with a > speed limiter set at 70 or less!!!!!!!!!! International Harvester Scout (the original.) Renault Dauphine Citroen 2CV Any number of 60's euro-imports just off the top of my head. Only the Scout could ever be considered a "good" car and that is certainly not due to its on-road manners. nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > >>There are low-speed "cars" on the market. There just isn't much > >>DEMAND for them - in case you haven't noticed. How many mopeds and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Citroen 2CV > Any number of 60's euro-imports Eh ? I've had at least 85mph out of a 2CV. Graham >> LYING $3 WHORE!!!! Name one car that comes from the factory with a >> speed limiter set at 70 or less!!!!!!!!!! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > just off the top of my head. Only the Scout could ever be considered > a "good" car and that is certainly not due to its on-road manners. We had a '73 VW Beetle (not a Super Beetle, but a plain Beetle) that would top out at 73 MPH. We also had (I think) a '71 that I saw on 85 once and it was still climbing. > >>There are low-speed "cars" on the market. There just isn't much > >>DEMAND for them - in case you haven't noticed. How many mopeds and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Citroen 2CV > Any number of 60's euro-imports Never heard of them. We're talking about cars not tractors. And we're talking about today not 1960 so stop living in the past, you useless geezer. In article <1169351571.413874.48850@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com>, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" <josegoldberg@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>There are low-speed "cars" on the market. There just isn't much > > >>DEMAND for them - in case you haven't noticed. How many mopeds and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Never heard of them. That you've never heard of them says more about you than the poster. THINK. Interesting that you make this post and one other similar post AFTER there have been posts with examples of this... > > There are low-speed "cars" on the market. There just isn't much > > DEMAND for them - in case you haven't noticed. How many mopeds and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > LYING $3 WHORE!!!! Name one car that comes from the factory with a > speed limiter set at 70 or less!!!!!!!!!! >> There are low-speed "cars" on the market. There just isn't much >> DEMAND for them - in case you haven't noticed. How many mopeds and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > LYING $3 WHORE!!!! Name one car that comes from the factory with a > speed limiter set at 70 or less!!!!!!!!!! I've already named several for which a speed limiter would be edundant. -Dave > > editor@netpath.net wrote: > >> There are low-speed "cars" on the market. There just isn't much [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I've already named several for which a speed limiter would be > edundant. -Dave Except the 2CV ! :~) I must have a 'way' with cars. Graham > > There are low-speed "cars" on the market. There just isn't much > > DEMAND for them - in case you haven't noticed. How many mopeds and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > LYING $3 WHORE!!!! Name one car that comes from the factory with a > speed limiter set at 70 or less!!!!!!!!!! The carmakers say "Duel" and don't want to get sued. Signature"The ultimate test is always your own serenity." Robert M Pirsig, "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" >> > There are low-speed "cars" on the market. There just isn't much >> > DEMAND for them - in case you haven't noticed. How many mopeds and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> > The carmakers say "Duel" and don't want to get sued. ALL cars have a limiter to keep cars under 70. They call it the DRIVER! > There are low-speed "cars" on the market. There just isn't much > DEMAND for them - in case you haven't noticed. How many mopeds and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > No $4 to park! No $6 admission! http://www.INTERNET-GUN-SHOW.com The Japanese make these tiny cars called "Kei car". If they were available in the US, I'd rather have one of those. But they're not. And Ford does make a small car, the Ka, for the European and South American markets. Also not available in the US. The reality is Americans want monsters. What the purpose of having a vehicle that can drive up to 130 mph or pull a heavy trailer is, when they won't actually do those things with it - I don't know. > The reality is Americans want monsters. What the purpose of having a > vehicle that can drive up to 130 mph or pull a heavy trailer is, when > they won't actually do those things with it - I don't know. Because Americans drive status symbols, not transportation appliances. If you can't haul 8 fat a.ses at 120MPH until a tire blows and flips your vehicle sideways 20 times before it erupts into a giant fireball... you lose. Not that you'd ever want or need to do that. But you have to show everybody else that you have the capability, or lose face. :) -Dave In article <1169309183.018871.110360@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote: > A car with a speed limiter set at say 70 mph. Lots of people would love > that esp if they have teenage boys in the family. And I'm sure [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > one.!! Car crashes are big business and they don't want the gravy > train to end. If the auto manufacturers thought they could sell enough of a speed limited car, you would see more of them on the road. > If the auto manufacturers thought they could sell enough of a speed > limited car, you would see more of them on the road. Oh don't give us that crap. That might be true if genuine competition existed in the industry but with only two domestic manufacturers that is clearly not the case. The auto industry makes billions every year replacing and repairing crash damage and that's why they make fast cars and glamorize fast driving in their commercials. In article <1169365630.900578.235790@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" <josegoldberg@yahoo.com> wrote: > > If the auto manufacturers thought they could sell enough of a speed > > limited car, you would see more of them on the road. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > replacing and repairing crash damage and that's why they make fast cars > and glamorize fast driving in their commercials. You actually believe car companies MAKE money off of crashes? You don't think they spend millions and millions on both in-house attorneys and outside counsel defending all of the lawsuits they're hit with as a result of these crashes, alleging defective manufacture or design? And that's not counting the millions and millions in settlements they pay out every year. And do you believe the people who think their car contributed to the crash they were in go out and buy a car from the same manufacturer? I have some advice for you - as you say to others: THINK. I know its hard for you, but give it a shot! > You actually believe car companies MAKE money off of crashes? You don't > think they spend millions and millions on both in-house attorneys and > outside counsel defending all of the lawsuits they're hit with as a > result of these crashes, alleging defective manufacture or design? And > that's not counting the millions and millions in settlements they pay > out every year. Wise up: Who wouldn't be willing to spend "millions and millions" on lawyers as "the cost of doing business" when *billions* and *billions* in profits were the payoff? > And do you believe the people who think their car contributed to the > crash they were in go out and buy a car from the same manufacturer? That's just a silly, irrelevant comment. > In article <1169365630.900578.235790@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>, > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You actually believe car companies MAKE money off of crashes? Of course they do. There are 7 million crashes each year in america. !!!!!!!!!!!!! In article <1169424484.617401.85190@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" <josegoldberg@yahoo.com> wrote: > > In article <1169365630.900578.235790@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>, > > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Of course they do. There are 7 million crashes each year in america. > !!!!!!!!!!!!! And hundreds of millions in settlements they pay out, not even counting the costs of the in-house attorneys. > > In article <1169365630.900578.235790@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>, > > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Of course they do. There are 7 million crashes each year in america. > !!!!!!!!!!!!! There are alternatives to cars, and built for low speeds too. Horses, Mules, Ox carts and Pedi-Cabs. Ted Kennedy - President of DDDAMM (Drunk Driving Divers Against Mad Mothers) - 24 Jan 2007 00:13 GMT >There are alternatives to cars, and built for low speeds too. Horses, >Mules, Ox carts and Pedi-Cabs. Must not forget the infamous liquorcycles. Signaturegpstard (gpsman@driversmail.com) demonstrates his inability to comprehend the simple differences of the definitions of the monosyllabic words "time" and "chance:" (Message-ID: <1167151218.287827.24230@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com>) Why don't you argue that the faster one drives the less time spent driving and available to be involved in an accident? GPSboi demonstrates he doesn't understand the concept of "zero velocity": : http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/4b00dc234d5fd559 Please explain how you concluded a vehicle with a velocity of zero might be -the- contributing factor to a collision due to driver inattentiveness. "Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's homosexuallity: the guys at the bath-house stopped laughing at my 3 inch weenie. : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/168e8e621dd649fb?hl=en "Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend" brags of it's ability to operate a vehicle: I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash. : http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.road/msg/a376114ee8a61824?hl=en Joshua Calvert <joshua_l_calvert@hotmail.com> demonstrates his lack of understanding of the terms "sarcasm", "irony", and "hypocrisy": Poor rightard, forced to whine about an 40 year old event. Message-ID: <Xns970A68202F1C5joshualcalverthotmai@68.6.19.6> >> If the auto manufacturers thought they could sell enough of a speed >> limited car, you would see more of them on the road. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > replacing and repairing crash damage and that's why they make fast cars > and glamorize fast driving in their commercials. All cars are built for low speeds. However, they're also built for high speeds too fortunately, or they'd be run down on the freeways. Maybe you need to ride a moped or a scooter for awhile, Judy. Then you'd understand why driving slowly on highways is a problem. My college aged daughter had a scooter for about 6 months, and sold it because she felt it was a safety hazard. SignaturePat O'Connell [note munged EMail address] Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints, Kill nothing but vandals... > All cars are built for low speeds. However, they're also built for high > speeds too fortunately, or they'd be run down on the freeways. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > daughter had a scooter for about 6 months, and sold it because she felt it > was a safety hazard. Well it might have been a safety hazard, depending on where she was riding it. I have a 400cc scooter that will do 85MPH at 55MPG all day long on the thruway. :) Of course the NY DMV thinks it's a "motorcycle" in spite of the step-through frame. -Dave >> All cars are built for low speeds. However, they're also built for high >> speeds too fortunately, or they'd be run down on the freeways. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > thruway. :) Of course the NY DMV thinks it's a "motorcycle" in spite of > the step-through frame. -Dave That scooter was one of those made in India, with a max speed of 45 MPH. While she drove it on city streets only, 45 isn't fast enough in Albuquerque. SignaturePat O'Connell [note munged EMail address] Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints, Kill nothing but vandals... > >> If the auto manufacturers thought they could sell enough of a speed > >> limited car, you would see more of them on the road. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > daughter had a scooter for about 6 months, and sold it because she felt > it was a safety hazard. They do say that riding on 2 wheels makes you *very* road aware. Graham >> Maybe you need to ride a moped or a scooter for awhile, Judy. Then you'd >> understand why driving slowly on highways is a problem. My college aged [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Graham That's an understatement. People rolling at speed past stop lines and then making HARD stops (with their nose in your travel lane) are commonplace. When you are driving a car/truck/SUV, it's no big deal. When you are riding a motorcycle? Heart-attack time, every few blocks. Fact is, you don't KNOW if that driver will stop, if he sees you, etc. That's just one example. People turning left in front of you, crossing your lane of traffic (while you are riding a motorcycle) is more common than people pulling the same stunt on you when you are driving a car. Fact is, when you are on two wheels, you have to ride like everyone on 4 wheels is deliberately trying to murder you. That is the only way to stay alive. Note I said nothing about riding safely, I said it is the only way to stay alive. Believe it. -Dave The auto industry makes billions every year > replacing and repairing crash damage and that's why they make fast cars > and glamorize fast driving in their commercials. Actually that's a very interesting point I've never considered. Could be a lot of truth in it. > A car with a speed limiter set at say 70 mph. Lots of people would love > that esp if they have teenage boys in the family. And I'm sure [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > one.!! Car crashes are big business and they don't want the gravy > train to end. Jeep Cherokee with a 4 cylinder engine tops out at 65-70. > Jeep Cherokee with a 4 cylinder engine tops out at 65-70. there ya go! I knew there were others, besides the several I listed. >A car with a speed limiter set at say 70 mph. Lots of people would love > that esp if they have teenage boys in the family. ALL American cars have those limiters! It's call the RIGHT FOOT BOZO! > A car with a speed limiter set at say 70 mph. Lots of people would love > that esp if they have teenage boys in the family. And I'm sure [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > one.!! Car crashes are big business and they don't want the gravy > train to end. Driving above the speed limit is rarely the sole reason for the accident. The gravy train can continue even with your plan!!! Signature"The ultimate test is always your own serenity." Robert M Pirsig, "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" > > A car with a speed limiter set at say 70 mph. Lots of people would love > > that esp if they have teenage boys in the family. And I'm sure [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Driving above the speed limit is rarely the sole reason for the > accident. The gravy train can continue even with your plan!!! Now there's another of your really really stupid arguments. Everyone agrees that crashes will still occur even if people drive slowly. But it will make a big dent in the huge problem. You're another of these morons that think no solution to a problem should be considered unless it solves the problem totally!!! You are so stupid. > > > A car with a speed limiter set at say 70 mph. Lots of people would love > > > that esp if they have teenage boys in the family. And I'm sure [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > morons that think no solution to a problem should be considered unless > it solves the problem totally!!! You are so stupid. Have you looked at the death rate per mile for freeways compared to city streets? Signature"The ultimate test is always your own serenity." Robert M Pirsig, "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" > A car with a speed limiter set at say 70 mph. Lots of people would love > that esp if they have teenage boys in the family. And I'm sure [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > one.!! Car crashes are big business and they don't want the gravy > train to end. Almost every car I'm aware of (Detroit, Japan, Germany, Sweden, France, UK) is built for low speed. Any of them will do 15mph to 50mpg with no problem. |
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