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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / March 2007Burnouts rear wheel vs front wheel
I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn out because they get better traction. I mean when you hit the gas your rear wheel drive car sits on the back giving it ALOT more grip and now my buddy keeps telling me im crazy and that its harder to burnout in front wheel dive cars.. im like if thats the case then why isnt all of the high performance cars ive seen front wheel!?!?!? I think hes out of his mind but i figured this would be a good discusion "snowolf9637" <u32139@uwe> said in rec.autos.driving: >I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn out >because they get better traction. I mean when you hit the gas your rear wheel >drive car sits on the back giving it ALOT more grip and now my buddy keeps >telling me im crazy and that its harder to burnout in front wheel dive cars.. You're both right. Yes, there is a weight shift toward the rear when a car begins to move forward, which gives a RWD car more traction and makes wheelspin less likely. The reason most FWD cars don't burn rubber very easuly is because FWD cars tend to be wimpy little econoboxes with wimpy little engines that can barely make the wheels turn, much less break the tires loose. :)  SignatureI'm a wreckless driver and damn proud of it! yea I agree that most front wheel drives lack the power but I own a pontiac grand prix and that engine has soo much low end power that i had to practice like everyday to get perfect launces from it without burning out because i liked to drag race with it but it was a front wheel drive and it took alot of skill to get that thing to not burnout when I launched it. 3.8L supercharged ive never lost a race by the way :D im VERY proud of that fact lol >"snowolf9637" <u32139@uwe> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >engines that can barely make the wheels turn, much less break the >tires loose. :) "snowolf9637" <u32139@uwe> said in rec.autos.driving: >yea I agree that most front wheel drives lack the power but I own a pontiac >grand prix and that engine has soo much low end power that i had to practice >like everyday to get perfect launces from it without burning out because i >liked to drag race with it but it was a front wheel drive and it took alot of >skill to get that thing to not burnout when I launched it. 3.8L supercharged >ive never lost a race by the way :D im VERY proud of that fact lol Try racing something besides a riced-up Civic sometime. SignatureI'm a wreckless driver and damn proud of it! but i live in kansas ricers and crapy cameros are all we ever get to race!!! >"snowolf9637" <u32139@uwe> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Try racing something besides a riced-up Civic sometime. > yea I agree that most front wheel drives lack the power but I own a pontiac > grand prix and that engine has soo much low end power that i had to practice > like everyday to get perfect launces from it without burning out because i > liked to drag race with it but it was a front wheel drive and it took alot of > skill to get that thing to not burnout when I launched it. 3.8L supercharged > ive never lost a race by the way :D im VERY proud of that fact lol Why is it that teens are unable or not willing to write in proper English? I know there are exceptions (like Cory Dunkle), but still. > > yea I agree that most front wheel drives lack the power but I own a pontiac > > grand prix and that engine has soo much low end power that i had to practice [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Why is it that teens are unable or not willing to write in proper > English? I know there are exceptions (like Cory Dunkle), but still. They have not yet learned that you write to your audience. Txt-msg- speak is fine for your pals, so it's fine for everyone, right? The way a person communicates displays their respect for their audience. As it has ever been, most teens don't have much respect for anyone except certain peers. E.P. Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> said in rec.autos.driving: >Why is it that teens are unable or not willing to write in proper >English? I know there are exceptions (like Cory Dunkle), but still. Part of it is the kewl lingo of the cellular text message. And part of it is a widespread culture among teenagers that makes anyone who appears to be smart or interested in learning the subject of ridicule. There is INTENSE peer pressure from all the stupid loser kids to make everyone else as stupid and as useless as they are. Teenagers, of course, are amazingly susceptible to this peer pressure, which is why so many reasonably smart teenagers walk around with baggy pants, boxer shorts exposed for the world to see, aspiring to behave like worthless thugs. It will be several more years before these teens realize that they have shortchanged their own futures simply to seem cool and fit in. SignatureI'm a wreckless driver and damn proud of it! Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Scott en Aztlán said in rec.autos.driving: > Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > it is a widespread culture among teenagers that makes anyone who > appears to be smart or interested in learning the subject of ridicule. Maybe I'm seeing things, but if he is using this text messaging lingo to make his posts shorter, then why are his posts showing up as being 1100 to 1900 lines in length while the rest of us are in the 10 to 50 line range... SignatureAunt Judy demonstrates its lack of understanding of the concept of "</killfile>," and "<killfile>," and what a "thread," is: "Now that takes nerve. You claim to killfile me TWICE in the same thread and you expect people to take you seriously???" Ref: http://tinyurl.com/r5qp9 necromancer <55_sux@worldofnecromancer_nospam_noway.org> said in rec.autos.driving: >Maybe I'm seeing things, but if he is using this text messaging lingo to >make his posts shorter, then why are his posts showing up as being 1100 >to 1900 lines in length while the rest of us are in the 10 to 50 line >range... You (or your newsreader) are seeing things. Mine shows line counts of 8 and 24 for his posts to that thread. SignatureI'm a wreckless driver and damn proud of it! > necromancer <55_sux@worldofnecromancer_nospam_noway.org> said in > rec.autos.driving: >> Maybe I'm seeing things, but if he is using this text messaging lingo to >> make his posts shorter, then why are his posts showing up as being 1100 >> to 1900 lines in length while the rest of us are in the 10 to 50 line >> range... > You (or your newsreader) are seeing things. Mine shows line counts of > 8 and 24 for his posts to that thread. His original post has a "lines" field in the header. His subsequent posts do not, which explains the line count discrepancy. In my newsreader, the line count field indicates 0 lines. > yea I agree that most front wheel drives lack the power but I own a pontiac > grand prix and that engine has soo much low end power that i had to practice > like everyday to get perfect launces from it without burning out because i > liked to drag race with it but it was a front wheel drive and it took alot of > skill to get that thing to not burnout when I launched it. 3.8L supercharged > ive never lost a race by the way :D im VERY proud of that fact lol Ever been in a legally sanctioned one? One where the other driver actually intended to race? -- C.R. Krieger yea their is a race track in the city west of mine and i go over their seldomly and they have races that you can race any car you want. Its a ligit race track and they have national events their every so often. >> yea I agree that most front wheel drives lack the power but I own a pontiac >> grand prix and that engine has soo much low end power that i had to practice [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >-- >C.R. Krieger > I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn out > because they get better traction. I mean when you hit the gas your rear wheel [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > seen front wheel!?!?!? I think hes out of his mind but i figured this would > be a good discusion I don't think you can make a general statement either way. It all depends on the power to the wheels, the weight of the car, the weight RATIO front to back (FWD has the advantage of an engine in the front), etc. > I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn out > because they get better traction. I mean when you hit the gas your rear wheel [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > seen front wheel!?!?!? I think hes out of his mind but i figured this would > be a good discusion The weight transfer thing (given approx equal car sizes) doesn't overcome the initial advantage the FWD one has. Equals it out some, but doesn't overcome it. Harry K > I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn out > because they get better traction. I mean when you hit the gas your rear wheel [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > seen front wheel!?!?!? I think hes out of his mind but i figured this would > be a good discusion Ooops, until, that is, you get into the real dragsters where the front wheels are mostly just along for the ride. Harry K > I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn out > because they get better traction. I mean when you hit the gas your rear wheel > drive car sits on the back giving it ALOT more grip and now my buddy keeps > telling me im crazy and that its harder to burnout in front wheel dive cars.. > im like if thats the case then why isnt all of the high performance cars ive > seen front wheel!?!?!? LOL you think they take into consideration how good a burnout the car will do , when they are designing it? no they do the exact opposite!!! But I think they should!!!!! lmao >> I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn out >> because they get better traction. I mean when you hit the gas your rear wheel [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >LOL you think they take into consideration how good a burnout >the car will do , when they are designing it? >> I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn >> out because they get better traction. I mean when you hit the gas [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > LOL you think they take into consideration how good a burnout > the car will do , when they are designing it? It's called "weight transfer";the sprung body weight shifts rearward under accelleration,due to inertia. RWD cars are harder to "burnout" because of that transfer. Most FWD cars are hard to "burn out" because they have low power,low torque motors.Few have limited slip differentials,too.So the right wheel slips,while the left front wheel does nothing. regardless,"burnouts" mean the power is wasted in wheelspin instead of moving the vehicle. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn out > because they get better traction. You mean make smoke from your tyres ? Why would any rational person want to do that ? Graham .... to warm them up for races..... and ITS FUN!!!! >> I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn out >> because they get better traction. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Graham > >> I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn out > >> because they get better traction. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > ... to warm them up for races..... and ITS FUN!!!! Sounds bloody silly to me. It's illegal to race on public roads btw. Graham lets put it this way around here NOBODY CARES!!! where I live the cops will race with you. we will all go out to the airport strip and race. and the cops wil either race with us or watch us. yea its illegal but nobody cares enough to stop us. >> >> I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn out >> >> because they get better traction. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Graham > lets put it this way around here NOBODY CARES!!! where I live the cops will > race with you. we will all go out to the airport strip and race. and the cops > wil either race with us or watch us. yea its illegal but nobody cares enough > to stop us. Ah, to be fifteen again, when responsible behavior and understanding of driving physics took second place to making sure your contrived tales of roadway supremacy sounded good. -Steven "snowolf9637 via CarKB.com" <u32139@uwe> said in rec.autos.driving: >lets put it this way around here NOBODY CARES!!! where I live the cops will >race with you. we will all go out to the airport strip and race. and the cops >wil either race with us or watch us. I'd love to see a video of THAT! SignatureI'm a wreckless driver and damn proud of it! On Mar 7, 4:58 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I was always taught that rear wheel drive cars where harder to burn out > > because they get better traction. > > You mean make smoke from your tyres ? > Why would any rational person want to do that ? 1. You like to make smoke 2. You like the smell of burning rubber 3. It makes you the centre of attention Similar to why people let off fireworks > On Mar 7, 4:58 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Similar to why people let off fireworks 4. It costs money. 5. Authority figures don't like it. E.P. >> On Mar 7, 4:58 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > 4. It costs money. correction;it WASTES money. > 5. Authority figures don't like it. > > E.P. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > > On Mar 7, 4:58 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > E.P. 6. They haven't grown up yet. Harry K > On Mar 7, 4:58 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Similar to why people let off fireworks And he likes to pay for new tires and balancing after he prematurely wears the tread off the current ones. "drifters" must be ADORED by the tire makers. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > And he likes to pay for new tires and balancing after he prematurely wears > the tread off the current ones. What makes you think that *he* pays for them? Most likely he passes off the costs of his antics to his parents. |
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