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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Driving / March 2007Moron Eddie Griffin Crashes $1,200,000 Enzo
This idiot was only moving about 35 MPH when he lost control and crashed into a wall. The owner of the car, who was interviewed on camera, didn't appear to be upset at all. My guess is he's one of those jaded super-rich guys, was already bored with the car, and so he's happy to collect the insurance payout and go buy himself a Porsche GT or something. http://ktla.trb.com/news/ktla-eddiegriffin,0,2540747.story?coll=ktla-newsspecial3-1 Moron Eddie Griffin Crashes Ferrari During Practice March 27, 2007, 5:51 AM PDT Moron Eddie Griffin was uninjured when he crashed a Ferrari Enzo into a concrete barrier at Irwindale Speedway while practicing for a celebrity charity racing event Monday, according to broadcast reports. "The brother's good at karate and all the rest of that, but the brother can't drive," Griffin told reporters. Car owner Daniel Sedek says the car was a total loss. The car was one of 400 made and worth $1.2 million, according to Sedek. Football star Reggie Bush and martial arts star Jackie Chan are also scheduled to participate in the event, held in conjunction with the April 13 premiere of the movie "Redline," which Griffin stars in.  SignatureDrive right. Pass left. > This idiot was only moving about 35 MPH when he lost control and > crashed into a wall. I'm pretty sure he had just taken a 'crash' course in manual shifting. It is a sin that cars like these are usually owned by people who cant appreciate them or drive them worth a damn. Doesnt Paris f.cking Hilton drive a Mercedes McLaren?! What a waste of a fine machine. 223rem <223rem@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >> This idiot was only moving about 35 MPH when he lost control and >> crashed into a wall. > >I'm pretty sure he had just taken a 'crash' course in manual shifting. Ha! SignatureDrive right. Pass left. Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), 223rem said in rec.autos.driving: > I'm pretty sure he had just taken a 'crash' course in manual shifting. LOL! > It is a sin that cars like these are usually owned by people who cant > appreciate them or drive them worth a damn. > > Doesnt Paris f.cking Hilton drive a Mercedes McLaren?! Actually, I would hope that she just lets a chauffeur do the driving. Would make the world safer for the rest of us... > What a waste of a fine machine. <drift off topic> Paris hilton is a waste of about $2.00 worth of raw materials..... </drift off topic> SignatureAunt Judy demonstrates its lack of understanding of the concept of "</killfile>," and "<killfile>," and what a "thread," is: "Now that takes nerve. You claim to killfile me TWICE in the same thread and you expect people to take you seriously???" Ref: http://tinyurl.com/r5qp9 > This idiot was only moving about 35 MPH when he lost control and > crashed into a wall. The owner of the car, who was interviewed on > camera, didn't appear to be upset at all. My guess is he's one of > those jaded super-rich guys, was already bored with the car, and so > he's happy to collect the insurance payout and go buy himself a > Porsche GT or something. In another part of the interview - not in the KTLA video - the guy says his first thought was that he hoped Moron Griffin was okay and when he saw him get out of the car, then he thought about his "poor car". I was expecting him to say that when he saw Griffin was okay, he wanted to kill him. I wonder why they're not releasing the continuous video - it appears to be cut so you see him driving fine one moment and then cuts to where he hits the wall. > I wonder why they're not releasing the continuous video - it appears to be > cut so you see him driving fine one moment and then cuts to where he hits > the wall. I think there were a few different cameras rolling. This video is continuous and shows the impact from a better angle: http://www.break.com/index/eddie_griffin_crashes_ferrari_enzo.html -=- Tom >> I wonder why they're not releasing the continuous video - it appears to be >> cut so you see him driving fine one moment and then cuts to where he hits [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.break.com/index/eddie_griffin_crashes_ferrari_enzo.html Now that I see it, I think the biggest act of stupidity was in setting up that course. Even in an autocross event where people who have half a clue or more are running their own cars there is an effort made not to have turns where people will understeer into concrete barriers.... especially concrete barriers placed there so someone can stand there and watch. Even worse, thise wasn't a typical autocross event, but one where clueless entertainers are driving cars way over their head. Just stupid. Now if the drivers were paul newman and james garner or walter payton if were still alive (beyond that I am out of people famous for other things that have/had racing experience) then maybe it wouldn't be as stupid..... but obviously that's not who was driving. >>>I wonder why they're not releasing the continuous video - it appears to be >>>cut so you see him driving fine one moment and then cuts to where he hits [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > things that have/had racing experience) then maybe it wouldn't be as > stupid..... but obviously that's not who was driving. Steve McQueen? James Dean? nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel >>>>I wonder why they're not releasing the continuous video - it appears to be >>>>cut so you see him driving fine one moment and then cuts to where he hits [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Steve McQueen? James Dean? They popped into my head right after I gave up for more names and posted ;) >>>>>I wonder why they're not releasing the continuous video - it appears to be >>>>>cut so you see him driving fine one moment and then cuts to where he hits [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > They popped into my head right after I gave up for more names and posted > ;) If we're going to play this game, does Peter Revson count? nate (what are the rules, anyway?) Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel >>>>Now if the drivers were paul newman and james garner or walter payton >>>>if were still alive (beyond that I am out of people famous for other [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > (what are the rules, anyway?) If victory is defined by making the other person goto the imdb you just won.... >>>>>Now if the drivers were paul newman and james garner or walter payton >>>>>if were still alive (beyond that I am out of people famous for other [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > If victory is defined by making the other person goto the imdb you just > won.... LOL that's why was asking what the rules were. He wasn't an actor, but if he hadn't been a racer, we'd still probably have vaguely heard of him, as he was somehow related to the Revson of Revlon fame. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel >>>>>> Now if the drivers were paul newman and james garner or walter >>>>>> payton if were still alive (beyond that I am out of people famous [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > nate and oddly enough the Wikipedia entry for Revson completely omits the Revson/Follmer Trans-Am pairing. nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel Nate Nagel <njnagel@roosters.net> said in rec.autos.driving: >>>>>>I wonder why they're not releasing the continuous video - it appears to be >>>>>>cut so you see him driving fine one moment and then cuts to where he hits [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >If we're going to play this game, does Peter Revson count? Sam Kinison! SignatureDrive right. Pass left. tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com (Brent P) said in rec.autos.driving: >>> I wonder why they're not releasing the continuous video - it appears to be >>> cut so you see him driving fine one moment and then cuts to where he hits [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >turns where people will understeer into concrete barriers.... especially >concrete barriers placed there so someone can stand there and watch. That's right - those K-rails should have had bales of jay in front of them at the very least. >Even worse, thise wasn't a typical autocross event, but one where >clueless entertainers are driving cars way over their head. Just stupid. I've seen worse. A couple years back, just before the new Mustangs were scheduled to hit the showrooms, Ford held a preview event (which I attended) at that very same speedway. They let a bunch of people with unknown skill levels drive around a similar course in Mustang GTs. Nobody hit a K-rail while I was there, but on more than one occasion someone took out a bunch of cones (in one case a cone got stuck underneath the car). SignatureDrive right. Pass left. > tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com (Brent P) said in > rec.autos.driving: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > -- > Drive right. Pass left. Cone death = fun; hitting solid objects = bad. There's a subtle yet important difference... nate >>I wonder why they're not releasing the continuous video - it appears to be >>cut so you see him driving fine one moment and then cuts to where he hits >>the wall. > > I think there were a few different cameras rolling. There definitely were - that's a completely different angle from the video I saw on Scott's KTLA link (which was the same footage Fox News showed). > This video is > continuous and shows the impact from a better angle: Damn - I suspect he was over 35 at that point, but still shows he is an idiot driver. On Fox, they showed an interview with Griffin in which he said something like (i.e. don't count on this to be verbatim): "You don't drive a Ferrari at 50 miles per hour, I was going more like 90". > http://www.break.com/index/eddie_griffin_crashes_ferrari_enzo.html > > -=- Tom "Tom D" <no@spam.please> said in rec.autos.driving: >> I wonder why they're not releasing the continuous video - it appears to be >> cut so you see him driving fine one moment and then cuts to where he hits [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >http://www.break.com/index/eddie_griffin_crashes_ferrari_enzo.html Holy Understeer, Batman! It's tough to judge from the video, but that looked like a little more than 35 MPH to me... SignatureDrive right. Pass left. > "Tom D" <no@spam.please> said in rec.autos.driving: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > It's tough to judge from the video, but that looked like a little more > than 35 MPH to me... One of the few bad sides of having a limited slip differential (or worse yet, a locking differential) is that you get power on understeer. Signature"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" -- "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed the demo of the iPhone speakerphone. > > "Tom D" <no@spam.please> said in rec.autos.driving: > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > One of the few bad sides of having a limited slip differential (or worse > yet, a locking differential) is that you get power on understeer. It looked and sounded like Griffin was making a hard right turn, got on the brakes, locked them and slid straight into the wall. From the video, it doesn't appear that the car is actually making much of a turn. Typical amateur reaction, or that of someone who grew up with antilock brakes. Had he gotten off the brakes, the car probably would have followed the front wheels pretty well. Heck, my SUV would have made a better turn (and then fallen on its side). SignaturePaul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ At some point it becomes necessary to behead all the architects and begin construction. -- Abi-Bar-Shim (Project Mgr. - Great Pyramid) >> > "Tom D" <no@spam.please> said in rec.autos.driving: >> > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > video, it doesn't appear that the car is actually making much of a > turn. He said later that a cone had gotten jammed in the front wheelwell and that's why he slid. > Typical amateur reaction, or that of someone who grew up with antilock > brakes. Had he gotten off the brakes, the car probably would have > followed the front wheels pretty well. Heck, my SUV would have made a > better turn (and then fallen on its side). They claimed the car was totalled,but it looked repairable to me;just the front clip needed repair/replacement. I also heard a blurb somewhere on TV about it possibly being a cheap copy and a publicity stunt. SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > >> > "Tom D" <no@spam.please> said in rec.autos.driving: > >> > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > He said later that a cone had gotten jammed in the front wheelwell and > that's why he slid. That might explain why the wheels were cranked over hard right. But that doesn't explain the sound of skidding tires and why the car wasn't following the direction the wheels were turned but sliding straight. Classic symptom of the front wheels (both of them) being locked. Is he claiming he ran over two cones? > > Typical amateur reaction, or that of someone who grew up with antilock > > brakes. Had he gotten off the brakes, the car probably would have [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I also heard a blurb somewhere on TV about it possibly being a cheap copy > and a publicity stunt. Maybe. Does that car have a monoque chassis or tubular frame. The former might be difficult to straighten back to spec. if the frame has twisted (likely). SignaturePaul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, "Let there be Light." And there was still nothing, but you could see it. >> They claimed the car was totalled,but it looked repairable to me;just the >> front clip needed repair/replacement. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > might be difficult to straighten back to spec. if the frame has twisted > (likely). OR, they could get together with : http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ferrari22feb22,0,1233660.story and make one whole one out of the parts. Steve >> >> > "Tom D" <no@spam.please> said in rec.autos.driving: >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > straight. Classic symptom of the front wheels (both of them) being > locked. Is he claiming he ran over two cones? Maybe he locked up the brakes after the cone tossed him out of control? He IS an amateur,after all. >> > Typical amateur reaction, or that of someone who grew up with >> > antilock brakes. Had he gotten off the brakes, the car probably [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > former might be difficult to straighten back to spec. if the frame has > twisted (likely). I'm not familiar with the Ferrari's construction(I doubt a tube frame),but today's body shops are supposed to be capable of straightening warped unit bodies.Maybe some cutting and rewelding would be needed.If it were carbon fiber monocoque,then that would be a problem.Didn't look carbon firber,though,that shatters and splinters.Maybe aluminum construction? It seems reasonable that that Ferrari could be repaired,but it will not be worth as much as it used to.(or maybe more since a celeb crashed it!) It would still be a nice fun car to drive! SignatureJim Yanik jyanik at kua.net > This idiot was only moving about 35 MPH when he lost control and > crashed into a wall. Maybe he got his paddles mixed up. Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), Scott en Aztlán said in rec.autos.driving: > This idiot was only moving about 35 MPH when he lost control and > crashed into a wall. << snip remainder >> A classic example of *way* too much car combined with *way* too little driver.... Signature"You can't legislate away people's right to be a.sholes!" --Wesley Snipes as Simon Phoenix in "Demolition Man." A classic example of *way* too much car combined with *way* too little driver.... Actually, I believe this will go down in history as the Mona Lisa of: example of *way* too much car combined with *way* too little driver.... They'd have done better giving a chimp an F-16. Steve Scott en Aztlán <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >This idiot was only moving about 35 MPH when he lost control and >crashed into a wall. The owner of the car, who was interviewed on >camera, didn't appear to be upset at all. Maybe the owner wasn't upset because it was all a hoax? http://www.tmz.com/2007/03/27/was-this-crash-a-hoax/ TMZ is just askin' ... what's wrong with this picture? Eddie Griffin's ultra-expensive crash in a $1.5 million Ferrari Enzo has been all over television and the Internet today, but could the pricey wipeout really be a brilliant marketing ploy? In the video obtained by CBS2 News in Los Angeles, it shows the car slamming into a concrete barricade. But, to quote Dr. Henry Lee from the O.J. Simpson case, "Something wrong." Roll the video and take a close look at the guy standing next to the concrete barrier. He doesn't even flinch as the car comes near. Also, it's pretty interesting that after the crash, Griffin joked it up, saying, "Undercover Brother's good at karate and all the rest of that, but the brother can't drive." This isn't the first time that one of Daniel Sadek's high-priced cars have been wrecked. During production of his movie, "Redline," two of the producer/real estate investor's expensive Porsche Carrera GTs were totaled during filming. One of the collisions was designed as a stunt. The other was an accident. Eddie Griffin's publicist told TMZ, "Eddie was crying this morning." He added Sadek "has no car in his garage now." We're guessing Sadek's license plate doesn't read: "My second car is a Toyota." SignatureDrive right. Pass left. |
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